There are some good quotes about in here. But just because you are not shot, punched, or stabbed it doesn't mean that the violence doesn't affect your life if you live in Chicago. And nearly everyone was affected or forced to stay in during mass looting.

As we are entering into what looks like a recession or a depression, and rule of law seems to be flagging I don't know how anyone can say it will be fine in a few weeks or months.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

We’ll probably downsize to a townhouse but my wife wants to be around our kids so assuming they are in the area, so will we. We are planning on buying a second home in northern Michigan in 9 years where we will spend May to October during our retirement years.

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

River North condo.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

You two are so mad at each other. It's Friday man.

It's not people like Deacon Blues that are changing places like AZ. It's young people. They're much likelier to move.

MANY posters come here to vent.

MANY posters have been venting for 5 months now.

Stressful times for MANY.

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I hear Arkansas has some very nice bike trails

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I decided in 2008 that I wasn't going to retire in Illinois, so that was before the property taxes went sky high. Made the move about 15 months ago, after a decade of research and planning. Three reasons:

- Much less cold weather. I don't mind lows around 30. I do mind lows of -6. The low all last winter here was 23, and it snowed twice.
- Better part time work prospects for when I leave a corporate setting.
- Lower overall expenses - I actually ended up moving to an area a little more expensive than I originally planned, but it's still about 15% cheaper than where I lived out near Spaulding and Dr. Ken. Costco gas is 54 cents a gallon cheaper than Bolingbrook, for example. $8 here, $25 there, 25% cheaper auto insurance, it starts to add up.

I did know that I'd have to give up Chicagoland's ethnicity which I really miss, and now with COVID I do miss being in downtown Chicago a couple of days a month. Even after my father eventually passes away, I will come to Chicago 4-5 times a year to see family and hang out in the city.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

Chicago sucks. All its charm is long gone, its just a soulless shithole like everywhere else in America. Nothing about it is fun or tasteful or unique anymore.

Gharish developments are plotted by mundane formula's meant to milk the most money out of the yuppies while the rest of the city is basically left to rot. Even the shithole crime-ridden parts of the city aren't any fun. The food, which forever was legitimately awesome, isn't unique anymore. Everything is low quality, a race to bottom between everyone in the city.

Good place to grill some ribeyes

where do u live again?

North Carolina.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

interesting. like 25 years ago i had an opportunity to move to Raliegh area. It was pretty nice and peaceful but was still somewhat of a ho-dunk town back then. If I made the move I could have probably lived a much easier life than what i decided to do.

Then also had a chance to move to Charlotte like 5 years ago. Had a an old friend opening a business there who needed some help. But never went out to Charlotte to check it out.

Thanks for this—well thought out plan, and clearly illustrates why MANY are leaving. The money saved could be an extra vacation or two each year, and I do want to travel some in retirement. I know Asheville is a pretty popular destination currently.

Seems to be?

We have been on this for the last 2 weeks Heisenberg. You gotta start payin' attention. It's not just "seems". It INDEED is spreading. Follow this thread for more:

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=122346&start=150

Fuck Heisenberg!!!

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Spaulding and Dr. Ken??

What/where the fuck is that??

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My family liked our time in Arkansas. It was a great place to raise young kids. Not for everyone, though. If you like a lot of entertainment, social life, etc. Its probably not for you. But if you like the great outdoors, hunting, fishing, golf, hiking, etc. It really is a good place to live. The cost of living is low and the affordability of a home is excellent, especially right now with the interest rates being what they are.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I'll retire inside your dad's pussy.

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i retired in illinois circa age 25. you guys were just too pussy to try and do it like i did =P

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They live in a trailer in the rough parts of Burr Ridge.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

didnt know Burr Ridge had a rough part to it.

It's a nice area. Rich and shit, I thought.

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Haven't lived in IL since 2010 and will never move back. The biggest draw Chicago had may be going away if remote working sticks around. RIP to the pensions when any professional earning 6 figures can do their job in another state.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

The pensions are already dead, and every elected politician knows it.

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can confirm

We also have a world class art museum, concert venue, theater, SEC sports, golf courses available 12 months, and good lakes for boating.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

i know i'm a weirdo, but honestly one of the biggest draws about the city to me is concerts since that's one of my favorite things. You can pretty much guarantee any artist who is touring is going to make a stop in Chicago. But that doesn't appear like it's coming back anytime soon, if ever. If that's the case, i wouldn't be opposed to moving out of the state once my parents are both gone

Today is a day it hurts to be a chicagoan with pride in his city.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

what happened?

Cubs lost to the Padres in the LCS

I wish I could show you the full concert slate for 2020 before everything got canceled, but you don't have to live in the city anymore to get good concerts

https://waltonartscenter.org/AMP/amp-past-events/

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

That's a good day

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

You have one world class art museum?! One world class concert venue?! Well congratufuckinglations man, that sure is swell.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.