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Ten.

That’s the number of women who have come forward to publicly claim Bill Cosby sexually abused them, or attempted to.

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They say they are telling their stories after enduring years fearful or embarrassing silence, but Cosby’s lawyer has come out against some of the women, calling them liars and opportunists, and labeling the press coverage a “feeding frenzy.”

Carla Ferrigno, who is now married to bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno, said she was working as a Playboy Bunny in 1967 when she went on a double date with the comedian and his wife. She claims the date ended up at the Cosbys’ house, and when Cosby’s wife Camille retired for the evening, and her companion disappeared, Cosby attacked her.

"He was much bigger than me. Much bigger and he pulled me so hard and so rough. I had never been treated so roughly and he pulled me hard to him so hard,” she told the Daily Mail. “And then kissed me so hard, right in the mouth. No one has ever been that physically violent with me. I was stunned. I was frozen. I took all my body strength and used both of my arms to stop him and push him away from me. He was so forceful."

She said she was speaking out now because "I want to be one of those women. One more nail in the coffin."

Former child actress Renita Chaney told KDKA-Pittsburgh she met Cosby in the 1980s when she was 15 and acting on his educational television segments called “Picture Pages.” Over four years she said he would “fly me to a number of cities. He would be busy during the day, then I’d come to his hotel room at night.”

She said Cosby would insist she have drinks, even though she was underage.

“One time, I remember just before I passed out, I remember him kissing and touching me and I remember the taste of his cigar on his breath, and I didn’t like it,” Hill said. “I remember another time when I woke up in my bed the next day and he was leaving, he mentioned you should probably lose a little weight. I thought that odd, how would he know that?”

She said she was unconscious so she didn’t know if she was raped, but suspected she was.

Former model and actress Angelia Leslie told The Daily News that the comedian forced her to masturbate him in a hotel room in 1992. She said he offered her a drink but she refused.

"I couldn't drink it. I tasted it and put it down,” she said. “Then he asked me to go into the bathroom and wet my hair. I walked back out, and he had removed his clothing and gotten into bed.” She said Cosby poured lotion into her palm and put her hand on him, and his on hers. "He masturbated with my hand. I wasn't pulling back. I was in shock."

Actress Louisa Moritz told TMZ that she was at the NBC studios in 1971 waiting in the green room for an appearance on “The Tonight Show” when Cosby came in and "suddenly approached me and took out his penis, which was now in the line of my face [she's 5' tall] and pressed up against it."

"He took his hands and put them on the back of my head and forced his penis in my mouth, saying, 'have a taste of this. It will do you good in so many ways."

Therese Serignese, now a nurse in Boca Raton, said the television icon raped her in 1976 when she was 19 years old following a show in Las Vegas. She said she went backstage and when the two were alone, Cosby gave her two pills and a glass of water, saying, "Take these."

"My next memory is clearly feeling drugged, being without my clothes, standing up," she said. "Bill Cosby was behind me, having sex with me."

Barbara Bowman, an aspiring actress, said in a Nov. 13 Washington Post column that she was 17 and blacked out after Cosby drugged her, waking up to find herself in panties and a man's T-shirt with the television icon looming over her. She said she was certain she was raped.

Joan Tarshis on Monday said she was a 19-year-old who wanted to be a comedy writer when Cosby gave her a drink and forced her to perform oral sex on him.

Janice Dickinson on Tuesday told "Entertainment Tonight" that Cosby had given her red wine and a pill when they were together in a Lake Tahoe, California, hotel room in 1982. Cosby's lawyer, Martin Singer, said in a letter to the AP that Dickinson's charges were "false and outlandish."

Tamara Green wrote an opinion piece Wednesday for "Entertainment Tonight." In 2005, Green publicly claimed that she was drugged and Cosby attempted to assault her; Cosby's lawyers have previously denied they knew each other.

In addition, Andrea Constand filed a civil suit against Cosby in 2005, which lawyers said would include testimony from 13 unnamed women. The suit was settled out of court.

Cosby's attorney has blasted many of the accounts. "People coming out of nowhere with this sort of inane yarn is what happens in a media-driven feeding frenzy," he said.

Cosby spokesman David Brokaw did not respond to AP’s request for comment. Singer, in a statement released Sunday, criticized previous "decades-old, discredited allegations," stating that "the fact that they are being repeated does not make them true."

Cosby made no mention of the allegations Thursday during a benefit performance in the Bahamas for a women's service organization. He stuck to his routine, including stories about his childhood growing up in the projects of Philadelphia. There were few empty seats in the house, and a few people gave him an ovation when he finished his set.

Some in the audience said the allegations against Cosby remain unproven, and they added that his performance was a benefit for what they felt was a good cause.

Dozens of Cosby's television and comedy colleagues have either refused to comment or not returned telephone calls from The Associated Press in recent days.

Cosby declined to comment in two recorded interviews by The Associated Press and National Public Radio.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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His son Ennis was my next door neighbor @ school. He was a really good guy.

From what I remember he thought his dad to be something of an asshole & really didn't seem to want a damn thing to do with him. Alternatively, he absolutely loved his mom.

He never had a good word to say about his dad (and remember this was at the height of the Cosby Show). That Bill made such a public show of his mourning & claimed to be so close when he was killed a few years later surprised most of us after he was killed. I kind of hoped that it was genuine and that they had reconcilled, but I doubted it then and now.

In retrospect some of the "adjustment" problems his older sister had down at school back then kind of makes me wonder. I (like most) always oddly felt sorry for her (& most of us didn't really know her at all-go figure).

I don't enjoy reading the current stories, but I'm not really all that surprised.


RR, is this when you lived in atlanta? for some reason i recall you saying you also lived there. i lived there around the time he would've been in college there i think...


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you know guys, i have no idea if bill cosby indeed drugged/raped the 13 women or whatever. i can believe it's entirely possible because once you reach that level of fame and you're used to the cavalcade of puss and you're used to getting what you want because you're A REALLY BIG FUCKING DEAL and all that, maybe you get your rocks off with the "adventure" of going all burger king and having it your way....

but at the same time it wouldnt surprise me if a couple of cosby's old fucktoys got together and said "man he got us pretty drunk before we fucked, so you know i can claim he drugged me and since he's got such a holistic image to maintain he'll pay me off" and she/they tried it, it worked and they got 6-7 figures or whatever (cuz you figure cosby has to be making 7-8 figures a year just off of cosby show syndication alone), and life went on.

then when some of his other jump offs realized that the drugged-n-raped-me angle = surefire $$$ from a guy who can afford to pay to make problems go away, maybe they used the same shady blueprint and used his desire to squash potential fireworks before they happened as a means to an easy payday. and when it worked for 2-3 people, maybe the dude got around enough to where he had dalliances with hundreds upon hundreds of chicks and all it takes is 10-13 to realize there's a gravy train and they all jumped on it, and now that hannibal burress picked up on it and ran with it, in this world of SOCIAL JUSTICE we live in people aren't going to let the legal system decide shit when they can turn on their tv/computer/phone and do some detective work themselves (read: reading sensational clickbaity articles like DID YOU KNOW BILL COSBY RAPED 13 CHICKS?! as opposed to SOME CHICK CLAIMS BILL COSBY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HER --- what sells?)

so yeah TL;DR i have no idea what the truth is except, of course, being above my paygrade. and just as much as i can imagine a pervy old/ish bill cosby getting off to drugging and raping chicks cuz it's the ultimate extension of his power trip (as i hear a car honk in the background *twilight zone theme*) i can also imagine a working blueprint of "COSBY DRUGGED AND RAPED ME!!!" getting 6-7 figure settlements real quick and easy cuz dude can afford to squash it since you figure he's gotta make anywhere between 10-50mil/yr off of cosby show syndication, so if he pays off ~5mil in a year to buy off ~4-5 chicks claiming this story maybe other chicks who had an affair with him realized he was an easy mark and all you gotta do is accuse him and you get paid (as i hear another car honk in the distance)

either way it's scary that now once the media picks up a "story" (read: "angle" or "slant") and runs with it the court of public opinion quickly judges on the matter, 95% guilty no matter what (THE EVIDENCE IS IN, bellows dan bernstein, YOU'VE SEEN IT ON TWITTER AND INSTAGRAM! THERE IS NO DEBATE! THE EVIDENCE IS IN!) and such is the pitfall of "social justice" --- the legal system is imperfect and slow and all this "due process" bullshit which doesnt let me decide if people are allowed to have lives/income/etc and hey i'm a valued member of the public! i vote! i got a fucking sticker too! therefore i'm eligible to determine guilt and i'm perfect for a jury because i can look at a person and decide if they're guilty like *fingersnap* so yeah even tho im perfect for a jury because of that dont put me on it, let me decide what happens because this is the year of our lorde 2014 and in that year WE THE PEOPLE (as instructed by our media overlords) determine who's guilty or impossibly not.... and now cosby is a for-sure rapist even if he never gets convicted cuz if these cases go to court and there's no way to prove 20 year old rapes based off of the words with a big financial interest in being the victim of an old rape, well..... that's the legal system's fault for not convicting a rapist because THIRTEEN WOMEN WITH TEH SAME STORY CAN'T BE WRONG!

and if we start questioning women who come up with literally the exact same story over nad over and over again over the years after the initial batch of women with said story got paid with no/few questions asked, well, if we even entertain the concept that these women are lying for cash because cosby is an easy mark who pays up, well what about the REAL VICTIMS here, aka the countless women across the world who have been raped/sexually-abused and are too afraid to tell their stories!

if we start demanding things like "burden of proof" and/or "beyond a reasonable doubt" why we might scare more women in the future from sharing their stories of rape and/or torment, and if that happens.... well then we're not #ListenAndBelieve-ing and last i heard that's what this all about. the most important thing that you can do is #ListenAndBelieve any woman's claims, erm, stories.... erm no, EXPERIENCES like this because if we allow for there to be even so much as an iota of doubt aka need for tangible evidence to get them the $$$ they so richly deserve, well then, just think of what we're going to do to all the women out there who have been sexually abused and/or desecrated who might wanna think twice about telling their story, especially if it's a dodgy one that's 20+ years old and eerily mirrors the stories that have been PROVEN to get everyone who spins, erm, TELLS them a 7+ figure settlement?

i shudder to think what kind of dystopia that would be.... can you imagine a world where women had to prove people's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? the legal system is antiquated and needs to be updated because i think once enough people hear "bill cosby drugged and raped 13+ women" it's like terry said... that's a lot of women. surely they didn't all make it up for $$$. #ListenAndBelieve,

and don't you dare think that cosby sweaters are now an ironic niche bit of dark humor. the man is TOAST. he's done. everyone yank his shows and end the syndication gravy train because in the year of our lorde 2014 you don't have to be convicted of a crime to be guilty.... you just have to have some comedian say you are and if he's popular/viral enough welp hey everyone and janice dickinson got raped too so hey cosby i hope you enjoyed your straight white male privilege for as long as it lasted because this is a much-needed redistrobution of wealth from he who needs it not (cosby) to those who need it the most (womyn whose stories we #ListenAndBelieve)

and no matter what i think it's immaterial. the court of public opinion has decided and that, as Les says, is history.

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I agree that settling out of court may just be the prudent thing to do.


it clearly was because i had never heard a PEEP about bill cosby rapes/sexual assaults until this most recent shitstorm that's upon us now, and that's because the hannibal-burress social-media-echo-chamber/media picked up on it and basically has everyone and their mom telling me that BILL COSBY IS A RAPIST. THE EVIDENCE IS IN. 13 WOMEN CANNOT BE WRONG.

nevermind that back in the day millions of people used to think that the world was flat and it clearly was because DUDE, millions upon millions of people thought that. there's no possible way they could make that up. no way at all. you'd think some of them might figure out that the world was a circle so you'd eventually come around to the other side, and yeah some of that "science" bullshit claimed to figure it out, along with the photoshopped NASA pictures of the world as a round-place some years later.

millions of oldschool people can't be wrong because there's MILLIONS of them. the world is flat. and somewhere at the end of that flat world bill cosby FOR SURE drugged and raped 13+ chicks. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS, and if you start telling me about acronyms here i'm going to slap you because PEOPLE IN NUMBERS CANNOT BE WRONG. EVER.

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He is a creep and probably a rapist.

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/law-order-svu ... 00878.html

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I'm thinking we don't need to use words like "probably" or "allegedly" in this case anymore.

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He is a creep and probably a rapist.

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/law-order-svu ... 00878.html


I dodged the ultimate bullet with him when he asked me to come to his house, take a shower so we could blow dry my hair and see what it looked like straightened.

Yikes. Pornos use better setups than that. Shit, I'm pretty sure I could do better than that, and I couldn't get laid if I crawled up a hen's ass and waited a week.

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Well he said he's innocent. So...

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uh oh... bomb drop. this dude is guilty as shit

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/ex-nbc ... ar-BBfq3YE

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Scotti, who worked as a facilities manager for the Brooklyn NBC Studio where “Cosby Show” was filmed, told the New York Daily News that he arranged for monthly payments and more for eight women during “The Cosby Show’s” run from 1984-1992. He claimed some women would receive as much as $2,000 at a time.

“He had everybody fooled,” Scotti said to the Daily News. “Nobody suspected.”

Scotti provided copies of money orders to four women to the Daily News and said Cosby asked him to put his own name on them.

“He was covering himself by having my name on it,” he said. “It was a coverup. I realized it later.”


he might not be going to jail, but civil courts might have some fun with his pocketbook

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I kinda didn't need to have 'Picture Pages' tainted ... though I suppose it does give a different spin on the phrase 'Brown Hornet'.

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All of those women would have said yes if he would have asked. Some of these stories sound weird too. You felt weird after having a drink and remember him touching and kissing you BUT you went back to his room and let him do it again?

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I want to believe Bill Cosby so bad, but I don't know if it is even remotely possible that he is not a creep, and likely a criminal.

With a name as big as his, if he didn't do any of this, the defamation suits would have been filed already.

Its really as simple as that.


I feel the same way. The only thing hurting these cases,it seems a lot (or is it just a few?) of the women went to his room on their own free will. That still does not make it right but hurts the cases if it went to trial.

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I want to believe Bill Cosby so bad, but I don't know if it is even remotely possible that he is not a creep, and likely a criminal.

With a name as big as his, if he didn't do any of this, the defamation suits would have been filed already.

Its really as simple as that.




I feel the same way. The only thing hurting these cases,it seems a lot (or is it just a few?) of the women went to his room on their own free will. That still does not make it right but hurts the cases if it went to trial.


How would it hurt?

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Frank Scotti, a 90-year-old ex-NBC employee, is the latest to go public with stories of Bill Cosby's past.


Scotti, who worked as a facilities manager for the Brooklyn NBC Studio where "Cosby Show" was filmed, told the New York Daily News that he arranged for monthly payments and more for eight women during "The Cosby Show's" run from 1984-1992. He claimed some women would receive as much as $2,000 at a time.


"He had everybody fooled," Scotti said to the Daily News. "Nobody suspected."

Scotti provided copies of money orders to four women to the Daily News and said Cosby asked him to put his own name on them.

"He was covering himself by having my name on it," he said. "It was a coverup. I realized it later."

One woman, Shawn Thompson, reportedly received more than $100,000 after their alleged affair started in 1974. Thompson's daughter, Autumn Jackson, has claimed Cosby is her father, which Cosby has denied.



One woman whose name is on the receipts reached out to the Daily News and said the payments funded her son's private school tuition. Scotti is confident that he was sexually involved with the women receiving payments, and came forward now because he "felt sorry for the women."

"Why else would he be sending money?" Scotti asked. "He was sending these women $2,000 a month. What else could I think?"

The story also includes a quote from Cosby's attorney Martin Singer denying Scotti's allegations.


Once called America's Dad, Bill Cosby built a career around his Everyman image; now he's facing allegations of sexual assault. Here are some his career and life moments.

"What evidence does he have of Mr. Cosby's involvement?" Singer said. "How would Scotti know if a woman was a model or a secretary? It appears that his story is pure speculation so that he can get his 15 minutes of fame."

NBC declined to comment on the story.

Cosby now has claims against him from at least 15 women with varying charges of sexual assault. Since the allegations resurfaced, NBC has pulled a project with him, Netflix postponed a stand-up special it was going to stream and TV Land has stopped airing re-runs of "The Cosby Show."

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Frank Scotti, a 90-year-old ex-NBC employee, is the latest to go public with stories of Bill Cosby's past.


At this point, I admit I was a bit concerned where that story might go ...

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However, I think the only saving explanation BC might have is if he somehow developed a "Milton Berle" type reputation for having a mythical huge dong that chicks just all wanted to check out. That would sort of explain all these girls agreeing to get private with him.


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How about the simple explanation of women willing to fuck celebs?

I will just guess there is another 100 females out there who Billy did something with or to and dont want to be part of this, but at they time it was all OK, because he was Bill cosby. Does it make it OK for Bc to do what he wants with 1 female because 100 others let him? No. But you can see why he would try and think its OK, if he was allowed to do whatever he wanted with the other 100.

Hey, they are celebs, they are our royalty. We honor them, give them privledges, let them guide political opinion, etc.

I detest interviews with actors and actresses. These people are totally empty. We forget they are essentially paid to FAKE it, thats what they do, its all they have ever done. Bill Cosby is on the board of trustees at Temple because....? He was a good actor? Why does that make him a select person to guide a school? or yeah, Donations $$$$...and Ben Afleck can keep his opinions as well, along with 100 others in Hollywood.

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All of this reminds me of Joe Paterno. A guy in the final stages of life watches his sterling reputation get flushed down the crapper.

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However, I think the only saving explanation BC might have is if he somehow developed a "Milton Berle" type reputation for having a mythical huge dong that chicks just all wanted to check out. That would sort of explain all these girls agreeing to get private with him.


:lol: yea, that would explain it all...

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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jimmypasta wrote:
All of this reminds me of Joe Paterno. A guy in the final stages of life watches his sterling reputation get flushed down the crapper.


Should they get passes for terrible behavior, simply because they are old?

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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I would like to retract my comments from the thread in which I once defended Panther.

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I would like to retract my comments from the thread in which I once defended Panther.

Are you trying to say that you disagree with his "having a big dick is an adequate excuse for serial rape" premise?

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Only parts of it. :D

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