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Author:  formerlyknownas [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:39 pm ]
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A six-month jail sentence for Stanford swimmer Brock Turner, who was convicted of sexual assault, has caused public outrage. His father's letter asking the court for leniency has only fanned the flames.

"His life will never be the one that he dreamed about and worked so hard to achieve," Dan A. Turner wrote in the letter asking for probation. "That is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action out of his 20 plus years of life."
Author:  Rod [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:45 pm ]
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"20 minutes of action"??? Don't be trying to bang an unconscious person.
Author:  Hockey Gay [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:46 pm ]
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She's a liar
Author:  Rod [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:49 pm ]
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Hockey Gay wrote:
She's a liar


Easy, Seabiscuit. Two guys caught him doing it.
Author:  Hockey Gay [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:56 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Hockey Gay wrote:
She's a liar


Easy, Seabiscuit. Two guys caught him doing it.

This is why I'm not a lawyer
Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:13 pm ]
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perjury on the 20 minutes part
Author:  Brick [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:28 pm ]
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Murderers wrote:
We agree.
Author:  Psycory [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:39 am ]
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Didn't somebody read this letter before he sent it in? Anyone with an ounce of common sense would look at that phrase and tell him to change it.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:26 pm ]
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Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:07 pm ]
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I figured this thread would be several pages by now.

But I guess there is nothing to argue.


Kid is a dynamite swimmer, no question about it
Author:  Brick [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:09 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.
Come on.

There is no way he should have said that even in desperation.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:12 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.

Maybe the part about his kid not eating as many ribeyes as he used to could have been edited out
Author:  Brick [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:12 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.

Maybe the part about his kid not eating as many ribeyes as he used to could have been edited out
You ended your silent protest?
Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:14 pm ]
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Let's include the chicken shit judge as well.
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:14 pm ]
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Stanford...figures.

What got me was the kid's dad thinking he doesn't belong on a sex offender registry.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:15 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.

Maybe the part about his kid not eating as many ribeyes as he used to could have been edited out
You ended your silent protest?

Its a 7-3 log out. Cant be out there all day. #MillennialProtest
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:16 pm ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Stanford...figures.

What got me was the kid's dad thinking he doesn't belong on a sex offender registry.

Dad seems to be of the opinion this was justa little promiscuity gone wrong.

Maybe the unconscious girl unconsciously consented?
Author:  RFDC [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:21 pm ]
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I can only imagine how pissed off the girl and her family must be right now.
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:26 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Stanford...figures.

What got me was the kid's dad thinking he doesn't belong on a sex offender registry.

Dad seems to be of the opinion this was justa little promiscuity gone wrong.

Maybe the unconscious girl unconsciously consented?


Rich white guy rape culture.

Daddy probably lead the Pac 12 in roofie conquests back in his day.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:39 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.
Come on.

There is no way he should have said that even in desperation.


Really? In the 11th hour with a kid staring down the better part of a decade in a penitentiary, we're passing judgement on what parents say in a plea for clemency? Ok, I guess. I choose not to, or at least, not nearly with the gusto of many.
Author:  KDdidit [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:49 pm ]
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No, as many have pointed out, there's no way you ever refer to rape as "20 minutes of action."
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:59 pm ]
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KDdidit wrote:
No, as many have pointed out, there's no way you ever refer to rape as "20 minutes of action."


That's pretty heavy-handed considering it's not your offspring with their head in the hangman's noose, so to speak. I agree that sans-context, the father's comments are deplorable in their reductionism of such a heinous act.
Author:  pittmike [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:02 pm ]
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KDdidit wrote:
No, as many have pointed out, there's no way you ever refer to rape as "20 minutes of action."



Pretty much this. I see the angle of trying to save the kid's life but never in those words or even close to it. I would think a letter like that should be dripping with remorse and regret not indifference at best.
Author:  pittmike [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:04 pm ]
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Regarding the offender list I sort of agree with the dad. I think there should be some degrees to the listing. I am not sure how but the kiddie predator, violent rapist and date rape/statutory things are different and should be listed in some way showing that.
Author:  Brick [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:23 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.
Come on.

There is no way he should have said that even in desperation.


Really? In the 11th hour with a kid staring down the better part of a decade in a penitentiary, we're passing judgement on what parents say in a plea for clemency? Ok, I guess. I choose not to, or at least, not nearly with the gusto of many.
Yes. We most certainly are.

Parents can still be wrong if they are defending their child.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:32 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Wasn't this line from a letter to the judge for consideration during sentencing? It's uncouth, to be sure, but I guess I have a harder time decrying someone for saying anything and everything when their son or daughter is staring down the barrel of a very serious felony at a young age, regardless of their unquestionable culpability.
Come on.

There is no way he should have said that even in desperation.


Really? In the 11th hour with a kid staring down the better part of a decade in a penitentiary, we're passing judgement on what parents say in a plea for clemency? Ok, I guess. I choose not to, or at least, not nearly with the gusto of many.
Yes. We most certainly are.



Then have fun. I certainly hope none of you ever has to appeal for leniency on their child, and I furthermore hope that nobody pays particular attention to whatever it is you say in such an emotional plea.
Author:  Brick [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:35 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Then have fun. I certainly hope none of you ever has to appeal for leniency on their child, and I furthermore hope that nobody pays particular attention to whatever it is you say in such an emotional plea.
If I do, I will not do it in a grossly offensive way like that.

Lots of parents do terrible things in the name of their kids. We can and should get mad at them.

Being "emotional" is not an excuse.
Author:  Rod [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:37 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Then have fun. I certainly hope none of you ever has to appeal for leniency on their child, and I furthermore hope that nobody pays particular attention to whatever it is you say in such an emotional plea.
If I do, I will not do it in a grossly offensive way like that.

Lots of parents do terrible things in the name of their kids. We can and should get mad at them.

Being "emotional" is not an excuse.


It may be an excuse, but so what? That doesn't mean he's less of a douchebag. And someone should have had enough sense to tell him not to put it the way he did. The kid did have a lawyer, right?
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:39 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Then have fun. I certainly hope none of you ever has to appeal for leniency on their child, and I furthermore hope that nobody pays particular attention to whatever it is you say in such an emotional plea.
If I do, I will not do it in a grossly offensive way like that.

Lots of parents do terrible things in the name of their kids. We can and should get mad at them.

Being "emotional" is not an excuse.


Oh come the hell on. "20 minutes of action" are words on a goddamn piece of paper submitted to a judge, he didn't even read out the plea in court, so it's not like he pointed to her in court and said "this slut was basically asking for it!". The phrasing is uncouth, yes even in context, but Jesus Christ, nobody was fucking stabbed by "20 minutes of action".
Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:41 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Then have fun. I certainly hope none of you ever has to appeal for leniency on their child, and I furthermore hope that nobody pays particular attention to whatever it is you say in such an emotional plea.
If I do, I will not do it in a grossly offensive way like that.

Lots of parents do terrible things in the name of their kids. We can and should get mad at them.

Being "emotional" is not an excuse.

Yeah... like that shit that Patrick Kanes accusers mom pulled. That totally tanked her case.
And this dad kinda fucked over junior with his poor phrasing and other nitwittery.
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