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He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period.

I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR.

IMU wrote:

I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

IMU wrote:

I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

Damn. 5 days in and we are down to 2 wise men?

Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series.

I wouldn't want Miller. I would take Quintana in a heartbeat for pennies on the dollar. I would use your argument against you.

Nas wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series.

I wouldn't want Miller. I would take Quintana in a heartbeat for pennies on the dollar. I would use your argument against you.

Then I'd go talk to LaRussa. Or IMU.

Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series.

:lol: Rick couldn't settle for being a smartass to just one of them.

How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57.

This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year?

TurdFerguson wrote:

Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

TurdFerguson wrote:

Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

Nas wrote:

TurdFerguson wrote:

Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana.

Nas wrote:

TurdFerguson wrote:

Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

TurdFerguson wrote:

Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana.

That fact remains he is 6-2 this year and the club is 8-3 in his starts. Isn't that the kind of winner you would prefer? Injury or not.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

TurdFerguson wrote:

Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana.

He's a winner this year too.

Author:	IMU [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:00 pm ]
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He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR.

Author:	leashyourkids [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:02 pm ]
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Rolling thread.

Author:	Nas [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:03 pm ]
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IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

Author:	Gloopan Kuratz [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:04 pm ]
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Bernstein vibe

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:04 pm ]
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You don't understand shit. You just read Fangraphs and regurgitate. Repeat as needed.

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Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:05 pm ]
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Nas wrote: IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's. I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series.

Author:	Peoria Matt [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:07 pm ]
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Nas wrote: IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's. Damn. 5 days in and we are down to 2 wise men?

Author:	Brick [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:08 pm ]
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Why are Cubs fans so angry?

Author:	Brick [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:09 pm ]
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Also, why are you so worked up about something that isn't even the most popular sport in America?

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:11 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote: Nas wrote: IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's. Damn. 5 days in and we are down to 2 wise men? Seacrest is smart enough not to argue that Jose Quintana is great.

Author:	Nas [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:13 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's. I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series. I wouldn't want Miller. I would take Quintana in a heartbeat for pennies on the dollar. I would use your argument against you.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:14 pm ]
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Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's. I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series. I wouldn't want Miller. I would take Quintana in a heartbeat for pennies on the dollar. I would use your argument against you. Then I'd go talk to LaRussa. Or IMU.

Author:	Nas [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:14 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's. I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series. I wouldn't want Miller. I would take Quintana in a heartbeat for pennies on the dollar. I would use your argument against you. Then I'd go talk to LaRussa. Or IMU.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:15 pm ]
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Author:	America [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:05 pm ]
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I think one of the most misunderstood things on this board (whatever its called now) is JORR's fascination with W/L. He may not even believe what he says, but he knows he's created a solved game when it comes to this validity of the win as a statistic. It's like tic-tac-toe. JORR wont always win but he knows he can force a draw. Its quite the feat because conventional wisdom in the baseball world has thrown the win in the garbage for more than a decade now, but I dont think there's a man alive who could beat JORR's argument. He knows that, which is why its so satisfying for him to find a little fly who reads too much fangraphs wind up in one of the webs he scatters around this board (and apparently the internet at large, as he apparently prowls Facebook and comment sections looking for new prey). I've mentioned this before. I ultimately like JORR and I admit, I take the win a little more seriously now than I did in the past. He makes compelling points.

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Author:	Peoria Matt [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:26 pm ]
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Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:37 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: IMU wrote: He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period. I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR. I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's. I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series. I dunno, you should see the team I've assembled in MLB The Show.

Author:	VF21 [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:50 pm ]
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Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:54 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote: :lol: Rick couldn't settle for being a smartass to just one of them. The LeBron of trolling. Always multi tasking and setting up multiple possible plays at once.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:08 pm ]
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VF21 wrote:

Author:	TurdFerguson [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:33 pm ]
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How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year?

Author:	Nas [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:39 pm ]
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TurdFerguson wrote: How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year? Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

Author:	TurdFerguson [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:46 pm ]
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Nas wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year? Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA. Between career and on the season, Latos is a guy that just knows how to win. Sox where 8-3 in games he started. He brings the fire, the passion. #TWTW

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:52 pm ]
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Nas wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year? Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA. Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana.

Author:	TurdFerguson [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:54 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year? Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA. Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana. That fact remains he is 6-2 this year and the club is 8-3 in his starts. Isn't that the kind of winner you would prefer? Injury or not.

Author:	Nas [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:55 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year? Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA. Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana. He's a winner this year too. You have to be against this move and feel Quintana should have been the guy to DFA.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:56 pm ]
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TurdFerguson wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year? Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA. Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana. That fact remains he is 6-2 this year and the club is 8-3 in his starts. Isn't that the kind of winner you would prefer? Injury or not. It's much too small a sample. If he and Quintana never pitch again after today, Latos had a better career.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:57 pm ]
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Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57. This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year? Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA. Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana. He's a winner this year too. And for his career. Too many of you seem to think that's accidental.