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 Post subject: Obama Administration
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:33 pm 
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Throwing a temper tantrum because we have checks and balances in this country

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... enate-veto

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Administration
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This surprises you how?
This is going to rip the cover off the facade that OBL was rouge, he had help not just from the Taliban and Paks but from the Saudis as well.

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Now that is bipartisan support. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Administration
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This surprises you how?
This is going to rip the cover off the facade that OBL was rouge, he had help not just from the Taliban and Paks but from the Saudis as well.


Do it: http://www.dailywire.com/news/7931/report-hillary-has-connections-saudis-aaron-bandler

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Administration
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This surprises you how?
This is going to rip the cover off the facade that OBL was rouge, he had help not just from the Taliban and Paks but from the Saudis as well.

Where did I say it surprises me?

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They are throwing a temper tantrum, but I don't think this should have been vetoed.

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I think the admin is worried because of stuff like this
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-08-12/lawmakers-worry-who-saudi-arabia-would-kill-with-115b-us-arms-deal

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Throwing a temper tantrum because we have checks and balances in this country

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... enate-veto


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Administration
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Now lets see when other countries follow suit and foreign courts start freely ruling on thousands of cases with American actors. The hysteria will be deafening.

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What I find extremely funny is the Dems crying about Russian possible tampering with the election. Saying"They have been known to mess with elections all over the world." Dumbass so have we,in fact they is evidence we messed with their last parliamentary election.
Not saying it is right but don't try to gloss over we are guilty of the same type of shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Administration
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I'm not at all clear on how this decision either fucked or unfucked plebs like us whichever way it had ultimately gone.

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What I find extremely funny is the Dems crying about Russian possible tampering with the election. Saying"They have been known to mess with elections all over the world." Dumbass so have we,in fact they is evidence we messed with their last parliamentary election.
Not saying it is right but don't try to gloss over we are guilty of the same type of shit.


It is really sick and un-American for you to try to compare the actions of Putin and Russia with anything we've done.

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What I find extremely funny is the Dems crying about Russian possible tampering with the election. Saying"They have been known to mess with elections all over the world." Dumbass so have we,in fact they is evidence we messed with their last parliamentary election.
Not saying it is right but don't try to gloss over we are guilty of the same type of shit.


The problem is that the CIA is ham handed & publicly screws it up each time in favor of right wing nuts(see Italy, Chile, Iran, Ghana, Congo, etc.). More often than not, the same opportunist kinds of people pandering behind this very kind of legislation.

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This thread has taken quite the turn.

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This thread has taken quite the turn.


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Gary Johnson doesn't even know what Saudi Arabis is!


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Gary Johnson doesn't even know what Saudi Arabis is!


I think it's a cannabis strain.

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Obama was smart to veto, congress is fuckin morons and fyi saudia arabia is a strain of marijuana

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Obama was smart to veto, congress is fuckin morons and fyi saudia arabia is a strain of marijuana


Chus wins again.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
This surprises you how?
This is going to rip the cover off the facade that OBL was rouge, he had help not just from the Taliban and Paks but from the Saudis as well.





Maybe 25% of the country thought Osama was rouge and Saudi Arabia was our friend..those same 25% still think Saddam was responsible for 911...@nybody with an IQ over room temp has known Saudi Arabia got us on 911 ..its been common knowledge for 15 years.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/us/politics/senate-votes-to-override-obama-veto-on-9-11-victims-bill.html?action=click&contentCollection=Television&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article&_r=0

... The 97-to-1 vote in the Senate and the 348-to-77 vote in the House ...

... Within hours of their vote, nearly 30 senators signed a letter expressing some reservations about the potential consequences of the law, including the prospect that the United States could face lawsuits in foreign courts “as a result of important military or intelligence activities.” ...


So 'nearly 30 Senators' voted for the deal then a few hours later couldn't wait to sign their name to something saying it may not be so great.

Fan-fucking-tastic. All it needed at the end was Harvey Korman saying, "Give the Governor a 'harumph'!"

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Don Tiny wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/us/politics/senate-votes-to-override-obama-veto-on-9-11-victims-bill.html?action=click&contentCollection=Television&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article&_r=0

... The 97-to-1 vote in the Senate and the 348-to-77 vote in the House ...

... Within hours of their vote, nearly 30 senators signed a letter expressing some reservations about the potential consequences of the law, including the prospect that the United States could face lawsuits in foreign courts “as a result of important military or intelligence activities.” ...


So 'nearly 30 Senators' voted for the deal then a few hours later couldn't wait to sign their name to something saying it may not be so great.

Fan-fucking-tastic. All it needed at the end was Harvey Korman saying, "Give the Governor a 'harumph'!"


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Now lets see when other countries follow suit and foreign courts start freely ruling on thousands of cases with American actors. The hysteria will be deafening.


Correct, as usual.

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The last two 'graphs from that NYT article above ....

Senator Bob Corker, Republican of Tennessee, gave voice to the unusual ambivalence that many members of Congress have expressed since they passed the bill.

“I do want to say I don’t think the Senate nor House has functioned in an appropriate manner as it relates to a very important piece of legislation,” said Mr. Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. “I have tremendous concerns about the sovereign immunity procedures that would be set in place by the countries as a result of this vote.” Still, it was a vote he cast.
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Now lets see when other countries follow suit and foreign courts start freely ruling on thousands of cases with American actors. The hysteria will be deafening.


Correct, as usual.





That could be a good thing, force America to clean up its act.

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Now lets see when other countries follow suit and foreign courts start freely ruling on thousands of cases with American actors. The hysteria will be deafening.


Correct, as usual.


Politics are more important though.

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Now lets see when other countries follow suit and foreign courts start freely ruling on thousands of cases with American actors. The hysteria will be deafening.


Correct, as usual.


Politics are more important though.


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anything that forces the United States to, you know, be responsible overseas is good in my book. Seriously.

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