It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:21 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 78 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Unfettered Capitalism
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/12/investi ... index.html

So, the CEO of Wells Fargo oversees appallingly unethical behavior that negatively impacted millions of Americans, and he "makes the decision" to retire. Are you fucking kidding me? He is guilty of at least one of two things:

1. He's a crooked fuck who was complicit in this illegal nonsense or...

2. He's a weak ass leader who never, ever, ever should have been in charge of a Fortune 500 Company and wasn't competent enough or strong enough to stop these activities.

If the former is true, he should be in jail. If the latter is true, he should never have been in a position to earn 41 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS IN ONE YEAR.

Now, he is of course a great guy because he forfeited his last year's earnings, but I assume he managed to hang onto the tens of millions he earned previously. And now he'll get to pass that money on to his presumably ignorant, lazy, silver spoon children while there are hard-working, honest people who can't pay the utilities for their roach-infested apartment.

Now, I know many will say "Leash, this is just crony capitalism. True capitalism would allow for a private tribunal system to really sock it to him." Nonsense. This guy should be criminally prosecuted or thrown in the street while the honest tax payers stone him to death with rolled up pieces of his 2015 CEO of the year award.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
True capitalism isn't practiced anywhere on Earth.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
SomeGuy wrote:
True capitalism isn't practiced anywhere on Earth.


Agreed. Tell me why it would be better for things like this. I mean that genuinely... not being sarcastic. Lastly, kill yourself (also genuine).

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
leashyourkids wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
True capitalism isn't practiced anywhere on Earth.


Agreed. Tell me why it would be better for things like this. I mean that genuinely... not being sarcastic. Lastly, kill yourself (also genuine).


True capitalism is something, much like true socialism or true Marxism/Communism(not exactly the same thing) that is left for the text books and academics.

Wells Fargo is corporate malfeasance and criminal behavior. Prosectution doesn't hinge on whether we practice capitalism or not. Wells Fargo will survive, even in the event of another collapse because it's systemically important and, according to Dodd-Frank, must survive by any means necessary.

Plus, where else are people going to go? Regional and local banking were murdered (on purpose) a decade or so ago.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:18 pm
Posts: 4865
pizza_Place: Luigi's
The Showtime original series, "Billions", should be mandatory viewing.

It depicts all this garbage and the illegal, hypocritical and immoral people involved.

_________________
"This is Chicago, my friend. Anything can happen."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am
Posts: 23844
Location: Boofoo Zoo
pizza_Place: Chuck E Cheese
denis takes another shot!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
KDdidit wrote:
denis takes another shot!


Denis getting punched in the back of the skull.

Leash is such a fucking coward.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
I would never murder Denis.

SG, how would a completely free market guard against such things? Again, not a cynical question. I'd like to hear what you think. Also, throw yourself into a tractor PTO.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:17 pm
Posts: 8011
pizza_Place: Rosati's
Here's the kicker:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/22/investi ... 0-million/

_________________
Not a mult.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Minooka Meatball wrote:


Bahahahaha!

75% of this board is better equipped to run a company than this crook.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48803
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
leashyourkids wrote:
Also, throw yourself into a tractor PTO.


Those things are no joke.

I saw a guy lean over one once and the string from the hood of his coveralls touched it, it immediately ripped all the clothes off the dude and almost killed him. Couple broken arms (probably 2), broken ribs, I think it broke his hip.

I thought he was dead.

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:37 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
I havent told him the tractor story yet.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Also, throw yourself into a tractor PTO.


Those things are no joke.

I saw a guy lean over one once and the string from the hood of his coveralls touched it, it immediately ripped all the clothes off the dude and almost killed him. Couple broken arms (probably 2), broken ribs, I think it broke his hip.

I thought he was dead.


In all seriousness, it's nasty. I actually know people who have died.

That's why I recommended it for SomeGuy.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
leashyourkids wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Also, throw yourself into a tractor PTO.


Those things are no joke.

I saw a guy lean over one once and the string from the hood of his coveralls touched it, it immediately ripped all the clothes off the dude and almost killed him. Couple broken arms (probably 2), broken ribs, I think it broke his hip.

I thought he was dead.


In all seriousness, it's nasty. I actually know people who have died.

That's why I recommended it for SomeGuy.

You don't know them anymore.

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:23 pm
Posts: 16779
pizza_Place: Little Caesar's
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I havent told him the tractor story yet.

Do you have a toe thumb?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:59 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Don Tiny wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Also, throw yourself into a tractor PTO.


Those things are no joke.

I saw a guy lean over one once and the string from the hood of his coveralls touched it, it immediately ripped all the clothes off the dude and almost killed him. Couple broken arms (probably 2), broken ribs, I think it broke his hip.

I thought he was dead.


In all seriousness, it's nasty. I actually know people who have died.

That's why I recommended it for SomeGuy.

You don't know them anymore.


:lol: :lol:

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:25 pm
Posts: 27055
SomeGuy wrote:
True capitalism isn't practiced anywhere on Earth.


asterisk, except for america

which mimics the problems with true socialism, and true communism, and true totalitarianism, as practiced in other countries

stop being a simple minded little bitch. true capitalism sucks. its another term for Darwinism. sounds great- let the fittest win... until you realize your sibling was born with a setback they couldn't prevent.

america is as close to true capitalism as there is anywhere else on earth. but we have in the past worked towards a mixture of socialism. it was called the 50's. when the middle class was strong and most people were pretty happy. definitely not perfect, especially if you were the wrong color, but if we could implement our modern social standards along with our previous economic guidelines we could have a cozy little life on our hands.

but, in any case, quitcher bitchin.. because we are a far cry from syria, or dozens of other regions on earth. and that means we are doing pretty good, because mother nature does operate on Darwinism, whether you like it or not.

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
IkeSouth wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
True capitalism isn't practiced anywhere on Earth.


asterisk, except for america

which mimics the problems with true socialism, and true communism, and true totalitarianism, as practiced in other countries

stop being a simple minded little bitch. true capitalism sucks. its another term for Darwinism. sounds great- let the fittest win... until you realize your sibling was born with a setback they couldn't prevent.

america is as close to true capitalism as there is anywhere else on earth. but we have in the past worked towards a mixture of socialism. it was called the 50's. when the middle class was strong and most people were pretty happy. definitely not perfect, especially if you were the wrong color, but if we could implement our modern social standards along with our previous economic guidelines we could have a cozy little life on our hands.

but, in any case, quitcher bitchin.. because we are a far cry from syria, or dozens of other regions on earth. and that means we are doing pretty good, because mother nature does operate on Darwinism, whether you like it or not.


We don't practice true capitalism here. No one does.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:25 pm
Posts: 27055
SomeGuy wrote:
We don't practice true capitalism here. No one does.


great. proven you don't know how to read. this is awesome. you should work for trump

fuckin maggot

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
IkeSouth wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
We don't practice true capitalism here. No one does.


great. proven you don't know how to read. this is awesome. you should work for trump

fuckin maggot


We don't have practice something close to true capitalism, bro, sorry.

The 50's weren't a mixture of socialism, either,dude.

Sorry. Take another hit of the good stuff and go back to bed


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm
Posts: 3717
Location: East of Eden
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
IkeSouth wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
True capitalism isn't practiced anywhere on Earth.


asterisk, except for america

which mimics the problems with true socialism, and true communism, and true totalitarianism, as practiced in other countries

stop being a simple minded little bitch. true capitalism sucks. its another term for Darwinism. sounds great- let the fittest win... until you realize your sibling was born with a setback they couldn't prevent.

america is as close to true capitalism as there is anywhere else on earth. but we have in the past worked towards a mixture of socialism. it was called the 50's. when the middle class was strong and most people were pretty happy. definitely not perfect, especially if you were the wrong color, but if we could implement our modern social standards along with our previous economic guidelines we could have a cozy little life on our hands.

but, in any case, quitcher bitchin.. because we are a far cry from syria, or dozens of other regions on earth. and that means we are doing pretty good, because mother nature does operate on Darwinism, whether you like it or not.

that was well said....

_________________
rogers park bryan wrote:
This registered sex offender I regularly converse with on the internet just said something really stupid


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:54 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
formerlyknownas wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
True capitalism isn't practiced anywhere on Earth.


asterisk, except for america

which mimics the problems with true socialism, and true communism, and true totalitarianism, as practiced in other countries

stop being a simple minded little bitch. true capitalism sucks. its another term for Darwinism. sounds great- let the fittest win... until you realize your sibling was born with a setback they couldn't prevent.

america is as close to true capitalism as there is anywhere else on earth. but we have in the past worked towards a mixture of socialism. it was called the 50's. when the middle class was strong and most people were pretty happy. definitely not perfect, especially if you were the wrong color, but if we could implement our modern social standards along with our previous economic guidelines we could have a cozy little life on our hands.

but, in any case, quitcher bitchin.. because we are a far cry from syria, or dozens of other regions on earth. and that means we are doing pretty good, because mother nature does operate on Darwinism, whether you like it or not.

that was well said....


No.

The 1950's were great for the middle class because.....look at the state of the world at that time add in a massive demographic boost and almost 5 years of ration based pent-up demand and that's why the middle class was having such a time of strength.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:06 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79560
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
Wells Fargo is a true scumbag outfit. I have an associate who had a significant business loan with them that was backed by a large amount of stock in a company I won't mention. Naturally, Wells Fargo wanted the value of the stock to represent a certain value above the amount of the loan, I don't remember if it was 125%, 150%, whatever. At some point the company in question had some issues and the stock price tumbled. Wells Fargo called the loan. My guy's right hand man had a discussion with their man at Wells Fargo and asked him to give them a few days to move some things around and collateralize the loan to Wells Fargo's satisfaction. The Wells Fargo rep agreed. The next day they looked at the account and Wells Fargo had sold all the stock at a discount price and paid off the loan. Fucking scumbags.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6549
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Wells Fargo is a true scumbag outfit. I have an associate who had a significant business loan with them that was backed by a large amount of stock in a company I won't mention. Naturally, Wells Fargo wanted the value of the stock to represent a certain value above the amount of the loan, I don't remember if it was 125%, 150%, whatever. At some point the company in question had some issues and the stock price tumbled. Wells Fargo called the loan. My guy's right hand man had a discussion with their man at Wells Fargo and asked him to give them a few days to move some things around and collateralize the loan to Wells Fargo's satisfaction. The Wells Fargo rep agreed. The next day they looked at the account and Wells Fargo had sold all the stock at a discount price and paid off the loan. Fucking scumbags.



Can you name 1 bank, that are not scumbags?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:20 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79560
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
Cashman wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Wells Fargo is a true scumbag outfit. I have an associate who had a significant business loan with them that was backed by a large amount of stock in a company I won't mention. Naturally, Wells Fargo wanted the value of the stock to represent a certain value above the amount of the loan, I don't remember if it was 125%, 150%, whatever. At some point the company in question had some issues and the stock price tumbled. Wells Fargo called the loan. My guy's right hand man had a discussion with their man at Wells Fargo and asked him to give them a few days to move some things around and collateralize the loan to Wells Fargo's satisfaction. The Wells Fargo rep agreed. The next day they looked at the account and Wells Fargo had sold all the stock at a discount price and paid off the loan. Fucking scumbags.



Can you name 1 bank, that are not scumbags?


It depends on what you mean by scumbags. I'm not gonna rake somebody for operating within a system that we have all agreed to. By the same token, when you see people screaming in the streets protesting economic conditions, it's clear they're no longer in agreement. I don't see how anyone could be angry about that from a moral standpoint.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 am
Posts: 31948
Only in a Someguy post will you get 3 statements which are inherently contradictory.

1. True capitalism doesn't exist on earth.

2. There was rationing during the 40's

3. The 50's were not an example of a mixed economy.

In his not so infinite wisdom he probably won't see the contradiction in those statements.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:32 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79560
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
long time guy wrote:
Only in a Someguy post will you get 3 statements which are inherently contradictory.

1. True capitalism doesn't exist on earth.

2. There was rationing during the 40's

3. The 50's were not an example of a mixed economy.

In his not so infinite wisdom he probably won't see the contradiction in those statements.



You forgot the part where he tells you to fuck yourself. :lol:

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:50 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 92083
Location: To the left of my post
leash hit on the big problem here which is the lack of government action to punish people like this. Capitalism is fine. Our government not enforcing order is.

They almost broke up Microsoft because they were too powerful because most people used their operating system and yet Wells Fargo does stuff like this and it's basically like "Well, that was bad but you retired so cool".

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Only in a Someguy post will you get 3 statements which are inherently contradictory.

1. True capitalism doesn't exist on earth.

2. There was rationing during the 40's

3. The 50's were not an example of a mixed economy.

In his not so infinite wisdom he probably won't see the contradiction in those statements.



You forgot the part where he tells you to fuck yourself. :lol:


Let's see....

1) True
2.)True
3.)True.
4.) Go fuck yourself.
5.) Define "mixed" economy.

By the way, LTG shouldn't be upset about Wells Fargo or any other banking shenanigans, this is exactly the type of stuff he said he loves and that was great for our economy and middle class.

You cant make this stuff up, folks.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:58 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 40650
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leash hit on the big problem here which is the lack of government action to punish people like this. Capitalism is fine. Our government not enforcing order is.

They almost broke up Microsoft because they were too powerful because most people used their operating system and yet Wells Fargo does stuff like this and it's basically like "Well, that was bad but you retired so cool".


You are right but I do not know why this is. My first assumption is because the government will somehow receive a big fine. Uneven enforcement is terrible and affects all of us. CEO or politician do what you want and say sorry. Martha Stewart lying or you skimming a bit on the IRS and off to jail with you.

_________________
Elections have consequences.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 78 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 53 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group