Bat shit crazy

Betsy DeVos says guns in schools may be necessary to protect students from grizzly bears

She pointed to a rural Wyoming school that is surrounded by a fence to keep bears out: “I would imagine there’s probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies.”

She was speaking specifically of a school that already had a bear problem.

As I posted in the Trump thread, there were some serious fireworks during that hearing. They had a good portion of it live on CNN. About the only thing you are going to get people to agree on with education is that the current system is not serving students well. Everything after that will devolve into a fight about unions, public schools, charters, standards, testing, funding, poverty, taxes, and much else.

Of course you missed they had to get all bogged down in the mother fucking LGBT shit as well. Enough already. We need to teach all kids better and no one is going to "get away" with not teaching your cross dressing little shit in their private bathroom.

Of course you missed they had to get all bogged down in the mother fucking LGBT shit as well. Enough already. We need to teach all kids better and no one is going to "get away" with not teaching your cross dressing little shit in their private bathroom.

Holy ignorance, Batman!

Yeah, what the hell is this stupid anger about?

I am not sure what part you refer to? I admitted above I know nothing about her. I also am not defending the appointment. I posted that Joe Lieberman seems to be ok with her. My more recent post about the LBGT bog down was about the process and I stand by that. In my personal opinion strides have been made in not only LGBT issues but also many others. To continue this nonsense of asking every candidate/appointee about that is a waste of time. In light of all the additional matters affecting schools, like those Dennis listed, questioning on that matter that affects a minuscule portion of the national school population is useless. For me it is look I have a lightning rod issue to show I care.

Many issues like the bathroom one I threw in are already being addressed everyday. Do you really think the personal opinion of any one appointee (other than one for SCOTUS) matters in the vast bureaucracy, courts and general public influence in the matter?

As I posted in the Trump thread, there were some serious fireworks during that hearing. They had a good portion of it live on CNN. About the only thing you are going to get people to agree on with education is that the current system is not serving students well. Everything after that will devolve into a fight about unions, public schools, charters, standards, testing, funding, poverty, taxes, and much else.

But those are the real issues. DeVos is the typical union-busting Republican who advocates for "choice" in the form of vouchers, charters, etc. all of which are nothing more than euphemisms for union busting. She's no different than Rauner or Rahm. They just want to demonize union teachers while handing out fat contracts to their cronies.

But instead of addressing those issues we have brain dead Al Franken asking her about homos and her net worth.

It really doesn't matter much though since the Secretary of Education has minimal influence on public schools at the K-12 level. DeVos will just be another voice promoting the canard that union school teachers are the problem. The real policy that comes from that role effects higher education.

But those are the real issues. DeVos is the typical union-busting Republican who advocates for "choice" in the form of vouchers, charters, etc. all of which are nothing more than euphemisms for union busting. She's no different than Rauner or Rahm. They just want to demonize union teachers while handing out fat contracts to their cronies.

But instead of addressing those issues we have brain dead Al Franken asking her about homos and her net worth.

It really doesn't matter much though since the Secretary of Education has minimal influence on public schools at the K-12 level. DeVos will just be another voice promoting the canard that union school teachers are the problem. The real policy that comes from that role effects higher education.

Then you didn't see the hearings.

Franken simply asked her about her views on testing students. It was a question on whether tests should be on proficiency or fluency (he used a different word that I can't recall). Apparently, when you test proficiency you are looking at mastery of grade level material. When you test fluency, it tests students on how far above grade level or how far below grade they are.

DeVos had no answer.


He then asked about the terrible statistics on Michigan public and charter schools.

She couldn't answer either of his questions, albeit they looked like "gotcha" stuff with specific statistics and such.

My anger is directed at the process which I think is dumb. The target was collateral damage.

None of those charter school people want to reckon with the real numbers. They don't support their arguments. Charter schools are crony capitalism at its worst.

Calling students cross dressing little shits is still pretty lame.

And lots of public school outcomes are government at its worse. What is(are) your solution(s)? Maybe you're happy with CPS and would gladly send your kids to that school system, if you had kids.

And lots of public school outcomes are government at its worse. What is(are) your solution(s)? Maybe you're happy with CPS and would gladly send your kids to that school system, if you had kids.

And lots of public school outcomes are government at its worse. What is(are) your solution(s)? Maybe you're happy with CPS and would gladly send your kids to that school system, if you had kids.