The Trump supporters can't even muster up any excuses for this unmitigated disaster. The hacks have been exposed.

And the Russian and Republican leaks are a plenty

Mitch McConnell should be the next head on the chopping block. He knew all about it.

What a disgrace. Or a good job, as the board's historian says.

These motherfuckers won't make it to 4th of July.

Pence is distancing himself from the Trumpkins, positioning himself to be a clean option when the impeachment hammer falls and Trump resigns...the possibly greater of two evils then gets to be in charge and the upper republican establishment is happily rid of trump.

An attempt to push Pence out of the administration as the only non Trumpkin is an interesting theory...I don't see the Republican establishment allowing that to happen.

Pence is distancing himself from the Trumpkins, positioning himself to be a clean option when the impeachment hammer falls and Trump resigns...the possibly greater of two evils then gets to be in charge and the upper republican establishment is happily rid of trump.

An attempt to push Pence out of the administration as the only non Trumpkin is an interesting theory...I don't see the Republican establishment allowing that to happen.

Pence is probably the best guy in the whole administration.

I don't know about that. He's familiar in a typical conservative Republican way. It seems that for all their howling about how they want change- one way or another- most Americans really do desire the status quo.

But if a scapegoat is what's needed for this Administration to continue to take this great nation forward, I am proud to do my duty.

It's a low bar but Pence is at least a competent politician. He's pretty bad on social issues but to be a politician in Indiana you kind of have to. We are starting to see serious mistakes roughly one month in.

I never knew Pence existed prior to his nomination to be VP. I assume any dislike of him is related to the normal anti conservative norms like , gay rights and abortion. What I find odd though is there is a tremendous dislike about everything Trump but I have seen people say this guy is worse?

I never knew Pence existed prior to his nomination to be VP. I assume any dislike of him is related to the normal anti conservative norms like , gay rights and abortion. What I find odd though is there is a tremendous dislike about everything Trump but I have seen people say this guy is worse?

I never knew Pence existed prior to his nomination to be VP. I assume any dislike of him is related to the normal anti conservative norms like , gay rights and abortion. What I find odd though is there is a tremendous dislike about everything Trump but I have seen people say this guy is worse?

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Isn't a scapegoat a person who takes the fall for the real criminals?

And because Pence is an established politician in an assortment of of arrogant imbeciles I find it bizarre that so many are accepting of the notion that he was the only administration member that didn't know the truth being told by all of the Washington insiders.

He is either a bold faced liar, like the majority of the administration or a complete incompetent.

He's touted as a guiding hand in the administration but for convenience he's distanced from this?

Wanting to electroshock gay people into being straight is worse than being mean to journalists, yes.

No kidding.

There is about half the country that is simply refusing to accept the results of the election. I think that's the logical conclusion to where we've been heading since Clinton's first election and Trump was the character to push it over the top. "Not my president" seems to suddenly be more than just a dumb slogan.

But more interesting than that are people like BRick- and I think there are more and more of them every day- who are so put off by Trump's style that they see it as evidence of him being unfit for office.

As I've said before, I'm pretty traditional in certain ways. I see Trump as a vulgarian who has no respect for convention or tradition. But if I were to play devil's advocate I would ask, wasn't that the entire point of the popular movements behind Trump as well as Sanders? Now we have one of them and MANY people are finding out they don't like it. The familiar is comforting. For example, I find it appalling that a president would take a phone call during dinner with a foreign leader. But I wouldn't call it "wrong". It's certainly different.

I'm an old man concerned about my 401(k). If I were 30 years younger, I might not agree with Trump philosophically, but I probably wouldn't have a problem with him turning things upside down.