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Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Naperville Police/Schools

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

This is heartbreaking.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Naperville Police/Schools

What if the girl in the video went an committed suicide if the school refused to do anything?

Author:  Rod [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:27 am ]
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I think it's bigger than Naperville. The idea that some idiot teenagers who foolishly record themselves having sex are trafficking in child pornography and can be put on a sex offender register for life is reprehensible.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:28 am ]
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Denied.

While it does indeed suck and is tragic, they couldn't have known the kid was suicidal.

Author:  Rod [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:29 am ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
What if the girl in the video went an committed suicide if the school refused to do anything?



Are you suggesting he recorded it surreptitiously? That may be the case, but the article makes no such representation.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:30 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
What if the girl in the video went an committed suicide if the school refused to do anything?



Are you suggesting he recorded it surreptitiously? That may be the case, but the article makes no such representation.



I'm suggesting she didn't know he was going to go show his friends.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:30 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Denied.

While it does indeed suck and is tragic, they couldn't have known the kid was suicidal.

The kid wasn't suicidal until they made threats to ruin his life.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Naperville Police/Schools

Thats a shame. I hear the Blackhawks were going to sign him and assign him to Rockford after this.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:31 am ]
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From what I gather, while school administrators are good at getting tough on physical violence, they could care less about bullying/emotional abuse.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:32 am ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Denied.

While it does indeed suck and is tragic, they couldn't have known the kid was suicidal.

The kid wasn't suicidal until they made threats to ruin his life.


Somewhere in there at least part of him was.

Author:  Douchebag [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:33 am ]
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This kid sounds like a beta.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Naperville Police/Schools

Terry's Peeps wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Denied.

While it does indeed suck and is tragic, they couldn't have known the kid was suicidal.

The kid wasn't suicidal until they made threats to ruin his life.


Somewhere in there at least part of him was.

Do you think this kid commits suicide if he isn't threatened with having his life ruined by those who can do so?

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:36 am ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Denied.

While it does indeed suck and is tragic, they couldn't have known the kid was suicidal.

The kid wasn't suicidal until they made threats to ruin his life.


Somewhere in there at least part of him was.

Do you think this kid commits suicide if he isn't threatened with having his life ruined by those who can do so?


Probably not but there is no way to know.

Like I said, tragic but you can't blame the school or the police for this.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:37 am ]
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One of those situations where if they do nothing they were wrong and what they ended up doing ended up being wrong. Or at least the way they went about it.

Author:  Rod [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:38 am ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
What if the girl in the video went an committed suicide if the school refused to do anything?



Are you suggesting he recorded it surreptitiously? That may be the case, but the article makes no such representation.



I'm suggesting she didn't know he was going to go show his friends.



Probably not, but she has to be responsible for her bad judgment too. Unless we're saying that women/girls are less than men/boys.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:38 am ]
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Teenagers have sex. Big fucking deal. Are these people Puritans?

Just tell the kid to remove the shit from his phone. Problem solved.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:39 am ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
One of those situations where if they do nothing they were wrong and what they ended up doing ended up being wrong. Or at least the way they went about it.

I think everyone would agree they have to do something, but they way they went about it was 100% wrong.

I hope the parents win a large judgement against the school/police here.

Author:  KDdidit [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:41 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
What if the girl in the video went an committed suicide if the school refused to do anything?



Are you suggesting he recorded it surreptitiously? That may be the case, but the article makes no such representation.



I'm suggesting she didn't know he was going to go show his friends.



Probably not, but she has to be responsible for her bad judgment too. Unless we're saying that women/girls are less than men/boys.


Or the person who recorded it could be more responsible than the person who didn't, regardless of gender.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:42 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Denied.

While it does indeed suck and is tragic, they couldn't have known the kid was suicidal.


What crime was committed? We have over corrected this problem.

I also find it outrageous that people are being sent to jail for more years sometimes more than 10 for sexting a minor. If the minor was able to start a relationship, then he or she could have just as easily Googled to see the exact same type of images.

Author:  Bagels [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:42 am ]
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at the very least this cop sounds pretty scummy (big surprise)

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:43 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
This kid sounds like a beta.
I think he sounded more like a "SPLAT"

Author:  Bagels [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:43 am ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:

I hope the parents win a large judgement against the school/police here.



seems like cops assigned to a high school are pretty much one step up from a mall cop
are we sure this wasn't Luna Security ?

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:46 am ]
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Bagels wrote:
at the very least this cop sounds pretty scummy (big surprise)

Parents should have been present when the armed tax collectors were speaking to the minor.

Author:  Bagels [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:47 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
be put on a sex offender register for life is reprehensible.


it's no big deal :drunken:

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:47 am ]
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Bagels wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:

I hope the parents win a large judgement against the school/police here.



seems like cops assigned to a high school are pretty much one step up from a mall cop
are we sure this wasn't Luna Security ?

at least at my high school, the "resource officer" (what they called them) was a real cop. He ended up becoming deputy chief after serving in that role.

The cop in this story was Naperville PD

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 23, 2017 10:50 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The idea that some idiot teenagers who foolishly record themselves having sex are trafficking in child pornography and can be put on a sex offender register for life is reprehensible.
I agree with this 100%

If its posted online or something, there should be some sort of punishment, but jailtime or putting them on the Registry is not going to solve the problem.

Author:  a retard [ Tue May 23, 2017 11:01 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The idea that some idiot teenagers who foolishly record themselves having sex are trafficking in child pornography and can be put on a sex offender register for life is reprehensible.
I agree with this 100%

If its posted online or something, there should be some sort of punishment, but jailtime or putting them on the Registry is not going to solve the problem.


Also agree 100%. Also agree this kid should never have been interrogated like an NYPD perp, especially without his parents present.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 23, 2017 11:03 am ]
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a retard wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The idea that some idiot teenagers who foolishly record themselves having sex are trafficking in child pornography and can be put on a sex offender register for life is reprehensible.
I agree with this 100%

If its posted online or something, there should be some sort of punishment, but jailtime or putting them on the Registry is not going to solve the problem.


Also agree 100%. Also agree this kid should never have been interrogated like an NYPD perp, especially without his parents present.

and this is why the school and PD are culpable and need to pay a large chunk

Author:  jimmypasta [ Tue May 23, 2017 11:04 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Teenagers have sex. Big fucking deal. Are these people Puritans?

Just tell the kid to remove the shit from his phone. Problem solved.


That's right. I guess the kid was playing it back for his buddies,too. That wasn't too nice. I think this kid might have had issues to begin with. That was a shocking resolution to a problem.

Author:  Rod [ Tue May 23, 2017 11:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Naperville Police/Schools

KDdidit wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
What if the girl in the video went an committed suicide if the school refused to do anything?



Are you suggesting he recorded it surreptitiously? That may be the case, but the article makes no such representation.



I'm suggesting she didn't know he was going to go show his friends.



Probably not, but she has to be responsible for her bad judgment too. Unless we're saying that women/girls are less than men/boys.


Or the person who recorded it could be more responsible than the person who didn't, regardless of gender.


I would only agree if the other party was unaware of the recording.

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