Interesting. Ya i think we knew he was always gay, but why do you say child molester? What evidence is there?

Interesting. Ya i think we knew he was always gay, but why do you say child molester? What evidence is there?

For christ sake, everybody knew. He knew that everybody knew for years.

But good for him. I hope he and Tom Cruise bang each other. That would be great.

For christ sake, everybody knew. He knew that everybody knew for years. Hollywood knew. So is it really that brave to come out at 60 when everybody knew? Whatever.

But good for him. I hope he bangs Tom Cruise. Then John Travolta. That would be great.

There's a long standing rumor and I think it's true that Tom Cruise and John Travolta joined Scientology to 'cure' their homosexuality. Remind you this was back in the 80s when being gay was considered some kind of mental illness. I think if those guys grew up today he would have accepted it. If they are just come out, nobody will care. Why live in fear. Show some courage.

The story here isn't him being gay. (everyone knew that)

The story here is he is a pedophile, comes out to save face, and the fucking media allows him to use that as cover.

The media complains about how the public doesn't trust them, well this is exhibit A.

Oh. I didn't know that. I knew Spielberg was a pedophile. When is that Hollywood thing gonna be uncovered. You know that many people know about it. The movie stars. It's sickening that Hollywood covers it up.

What about Burt Reynolds? Should he go down too? Neil Patrick Harris said when he was a child actor, Reynolds just kissed him on the lips out of the blue 'as a joke'. He said after the kiss Harris knew he was gay.

Oh. I didn't know that. I knew Spielberg was a pedophile. When is that Hollywood thing gonna be uncovered. You know that many people know about it. The movie stars. It's sickening that Hollywood covers it up.

I was subject to something similar with a guy I worked with when I was a kid. He was a gay 27 year old and I was 15 or 16. I handled it similarly to the way Rapp did, "Hey, what the fuck are you doing?" The guy stopped his advances. It wasn't traumatic. I do remember it though. I don't consider the guy a pedophile. I was a good looking teenager. And I was trying to bag whatever girls I could at the time.

Is Anthony Rapp gay too? Because I don't think the average straight dude who spends half his day on a message board complaining about Julie DiCaro really understands gay culture and how it works. If you're going to call a gay man in his twenties approaching a gay teen "pedophilia", you're going to need to examine your openness and liberalism when it comes to homosexuality in general. Because most first relationships for gay men occur with much older partners.

And there's a good reason for that. If a gay kid is in high school, how does he "date"? There may be another kid that he suspects of being gay, but they're likely both in the closet and how could either one risk that? It's bad enough in a big city. Now imagine you're a (the?) gay kid at leash's high school. Of course you're going to have to seek out an older guy. Maybe this is changing as our society becomes more open and accepting, but it certainly was as I describe 20-30 years ago.

Change the gender of the kid and ask yourself if it's OK.

I'm comfortable calling a 27 year old plying a 14 year old with liquor and trying to get in his pants a pedophile.

Yeah. This is a strange turn. The rules/laws don't change because of sexual orientation.

The next step is to say this was considered "normal" in Hollywood and therefore it doesn't qualify either.

Don't give kids/teenagers alcohol and don't try and sleep with them. It's not a difficult thing to avoid.

I'm comfortable calling a 27 year old plying a 14 year old with liquor and trying to get in his pants a pedophile.

The term "plying with liquor" is pretty Victorian, isn't it? Maybe we need to find a feinting couch.

Seriously, I think people grow up and they forget what they were like in their mid-teens. I'm gonna say a 14 year old Peeps wasn't some innocent naif. You were probably walking around constantly thinking about getting in the pants of little Bridget from Queen of Peace.

Anyway, I'll say again, I think there is quite a divide between what is considered "acceptable" in mainstream, i.e, "straight" culture and what is a norm within a society that encompasses about 5% of the population, maybe.

But I just had a great idea for a killer app. A dating app strictly for gay teens. Actually, it probably exists.

I kinda see what JORR is saying though about the gay teenager's dilemma.


What if the kid was 16, Spacey was 29 and no alcohol?

Just like with anything else, it is the responsibility of the 29 year old to say no.

Just like with anything else, it is the responsibility of the 29 year old to say no.

The 29 year old was once a shy, confused 14 year old who likely had his first sexual experience with a much older guy as well.

Depends what state they are in, doesnt it?