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| Author: | America [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The Athletic |
These knobs bestowed the honor of 2017 Chicago Sportsperson (groan) of the Year to Rick Hahn. I get that it wasn't a banner year in Chicago sports, but no way. This is dumb. This is the GM-infatuation gone too fucking far. The Sox won 67 games last year and they are giving the man who orchestrated the roster accolades. WHAT I'm on board with the White Sox rebuild because I have to be, and I think Hahn has done a good job. This is stupid and I do not like it. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
nomination denied, #1 farm system in all of baseball |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: nomination denied, #1 farm system in all of baseball I'm with Ogie. Finally picked a lane and got quite a haul. Going to be interesting to watch what happens. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Peoria Matt wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: nomination denied, #1 farm system in all of baseball I'm with Ogie. Finally picked a lane and got quite a haul. Going to be interesting to watch what happens. I agree as well. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
America nailed this one |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. But hey, he traded two of the best left handed pitchers in all of baseball for a bunch of minor leaguers so lets give him an award! |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
i wouldnt get too bent out of shape by clickbait space filling end of year BS |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: nomination denied, #1 farm system in all of baseball AAA attendance championshoip. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Keyser Soze wrote: Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. Is it the Phils? |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
It is the Phils. Good work. They only won 346 games over the last five years. I thought it would be Cincinnati or the Padres but they both have won 366. The Twins are 3rd at 363 wins. |
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| Author: | America [ Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
He's not even a sportsperson. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Keyser Soze wrote: It is the Phils. Good work. They only won 346 games over the last five years. I thought it would be Cincinnati or the Padres but they both have won 366. The Twins are 3rd at 363 wins. If it makes you feel better the Sox actually tried to win in four of those seasons. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Keyser Soze wrote: Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. But hey, he traded two of the best left handed pitchers in all of baseball for a bunch of minor leaguers so lets give him an award! Robin Ventura was 375-435 as Sox manager. That's a .463 winning percentage. However the final 4 years under Ventura, saw the Sox go 290-358 which pencils out to a .447 winning percentage. You wanted the Sox to keep Ventura, but you aren't happy with Hahn. Pick a lane. Either winning percentage matters, or it doesn't.
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Keyser Soze wrote: Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. But hey, he traded two of the best left handed pitchers in all of baseball for a bunch of minor leaguers so lets give him an award! This guy gets it. |
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| Author: | newper [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Zach Miller's last year of eligibility and he gets passed over. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
FavreFan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. But hey, he traded two of the best left handed pitchers in all of baseball for a bunch of minor leaguers so lets give him an award! This guy gets it. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. But hey, he traded two of the best left handed pitchers in all of baseball for a bunch of minor leaguers so lets give him an award! This guy gets it. You’d have to ask him. His point about Hahn’s failures is unassailable though. |
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| Author: | Tall Midget [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. But hey, he traded two of the best left handed pitchers in all of baseball for a bunch of minor leaguers so lets give him an award! This guy gets it. Keyser could logically argue that Ventura outperformed expectations given the poor quality of talent Hahn put on the field. |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
I believe under Ventura's guidance the Sox outperformed their pythag record every year. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Tall Midget wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: Rick Hahn has been the GM of the White Sox for 5 years. Over that time their record is 357-453. That's a .440 winning percentage and an avg of 71 wins a season. There is only 1 team (can you guess who it is) in all of baseball who has won fewer games over that time period. But hey, he traded two of the best left handed pitchers in all of baseball for a bunch of minor leaguers so lets give him an award! This guy gets it. Keyser could logically argue that Ventura outperformed expectations given the poor quality of talent Hahn put on the field. But then we would have to acknowledge that Kenny was heavily involved with those teams and the players on them. And Kenny's meddling was a main reason that Ventura left. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Kenny’s record during the 5 years before Hahn was 420-391. That’s a .518 winning percentage and an avg of 84 wins a season. Hahn’s teams have finished 4th four times and 5th once. They have finished an astounding 117.5 games out of first place. Holy fuck |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
What about the manager that you wanted to keep with a .440 winning percentage? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Frank Coztansa wrote: What about the manager that you wanted to keep with a .440 winning percentage? Nobody could win with Hahn's players |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
The award should go to Bobby Portis |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
rogers park bryan wrote: The award should go to Bobby Portis Yup. What if I told you a soft European basketball player got knocked out by a teammate and woke up a superstar? ESPN Presents: 30 for 30: The Nikola Mirotic Story |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: The award should go to Bobby Portis Yup. What if I told you a soft European basketball player got knocked out by a teammate and woke up a superstar? ESPN Presents: 30 for 30: The Nikola Mirotic Story
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: The award should go to Bobby Portis Yup. What if I told you a soft European basketball player got knocked out by a teammate and woke up a superstar? ESPN Presents: 30 for 30: The Nikola Mirotic Story
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
Drazen Petrovic's ghost is weeping |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Athletic |
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: The award should go to Bobby Portis Yup. What if I told you a soft European basketball player got knocked out by a teammate and woke up a superstar? ESPN Presents: 30 for 30: The Nikola Mirotic Story
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