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Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

You get put on a sex offender list for banging a 16 year old but she should have the right to vote?

Author:  ToxicMasculinity [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:25 am ]
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Letting women vote was a mistake. Letting teenage girls vote would be a tragedy.

Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:27 am ]
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Is this a thing again? The argument for 18 year olds was fine when it came to the draft and such but I can't see a single argument for 16 year old's voting with much merit.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:29 am ]
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This thread is just another example of so many CFMB members odd tenacity to support/ enable sexual predators while demeaning the victims. Trumpkins sure see life through an "odd" lens.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:30 am ]
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The Democratic Party can't get votes from actual eligible voters so they have to look elsewhere.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:31 am ]
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This is a thing?

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Democratic Party can't get votes from actual eligible voters so they have to look elsewhere.


It's nothing more than a counter measure to the right wings gerrymandering game plan. This evens things out.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
This thread is just another example of so many CFMB members odd tenacity to support/ enable sexual predators while demeaning the victims. Trumpkins sure see life through an "odd" lens.


So 16 is too young to consent to sex but old enough to select our leaders? Don't be a fucking douchebag.

Author:  tommy [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:34 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
You get put on a sex offender list for banging a 16 year old but she should have the right to vote?

Oh God no

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:35 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
This thread is just another example of so many CFMB members odd tenacity to support/ enable sexual predators while demeaning the victims. Trumpkins sure see life through an "odd" lens.


So 16 is too young to consent to sex but old enough to select our leaders? Don't be a fucking douchebag.


Rape victims have nothing to do with this topic, so I am very puzzled why you invoked them here as a pawn in your argument.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Democratic Party can't get votes from actual eligible voters so they have to look elsewhere.


It's nothing more than a counter measure to the right wings gerrymandering game plan. This evens things out.


Are you suggesting gerrymandering is something only Republicans do? Maybe you should check out Little Looie's district.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:37 am ]
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tommy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
You get put on a sex offender list for banging a 16 year old but she should have the right to vote?

Oh God no


Nothing about this seems like a good idea...

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:37 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
This thread is just another example of so many CFMB members odd tenacity to support/ enable sexual predators while demeaning the victims. Trumpkins sure see life through an "odd" lens.


So 16 is too young to consent to sex but old enough to select our leaders? Don't be a fucking douchebag.


Rape victims have nothing to do with this topic, so I am very puzzled why you invoked them here as a pawn in your argument.


I guess you think the standard for consenting to sex should be higher than it is for voting. Why not give 12 year olds the vote?

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Democratic Party can't get votes from actual eligible voters so they have to look elsewhere.


It's nothing more than a counter measure to the right wings gerrymandering game plan. This evens things out.


Are you suggesting gerrymandering is something only Republicans do? Maybe you should check out Little Looie's district.


Yet you are suggesting that only Democrats could use underage votes to their advantage..this isn't Burger King Joe, you can't have it both ways.

Author:  America [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:39 am ]
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Ok then we get to try 16 year olds as adults.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Democratic Party can't get votes from actual eligible voters so they have to look elsewhere.


It's nothing more than a counter measure to the right wings gerrymandering game plan. This evens things out.


Are you suggesting gerrymandering is something only Republicans do? Maybe you should check out Little Looie's district.


Yet you are suggesting that only Democrats could use underage votes to their advantage..this isn't Burger King Joe, you can't have it both ways.


That's a bad argument. How do you think the majority of 16 and 17 year olds would vote? I assure you it isn't the Right pushing this silly idea.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:42 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Democratic Party can't get votes from actual eligible voters so they have to look elsewhere.


It's nothing more than a counter measure to the right wings gerrymandering game plan. This evens things out.


Are you suggesting gerrymandering is something only Republicans do? Maybe you should check out Little Looie's district.


Yet you are suggesting that only Democrats could use underage votes to their advantage..this isn't Burger King Joe, you can't have it both ways.


That's a bad argument. How do you think the majority of 16 and 17 year olds would vote? I assure you it isn't the Right pushing this silly idea.


The votes would trend similar to traditional voting demographics. You think 15 year old Buck Jr in Nebraska is going to vote for black or a woman? :lol:

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:45 am ]
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Also your consent angle "HAS" nothing to do with this topic. Debate it on the issue at hand and stop using victims as your political capital. You are really bad at trying to start these political fires, stick to the previous game plan of having JLN create the threads.

Author:  tommy [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:46 am ]
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16 year olds = bad decisions.

Staggeringly bad decisions.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:47 am ]
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tommy wrote:
16 year olds = bad decisions.

Staggeringly bad decisions.



We just saw 50% of this country(people over 18) elect Trump. It doesn't stop at 16.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:48 am ]
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Think about what you're saying. Do 21-30 olds tend to vote Left more or less than 50-60 year olds?

This whole movement is rearing its head because some kids who got shot at are espousing the liberal talking points on guns. I guarantee if those kids were saying they should have all been armed to the teeth so they could have taken Cruz out, liberal dipshits on Twitter would not be advocating for giving them voting rights.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:50 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Also your consent angle "HAS" nothing to do with this topic. Debate it on the issue at hand and stop using victims as your political capital. You are really bad at trying to start these political fires, stick to the previous game plan of having JLN create the threads.


Of course it does. Just as America's point about trying kids as adults does. By changing the voting age you are effectively redefining "adult".

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 am ]
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Oh so this movement is from "people on Twitter".

So not really a movement based in reality.

Whew.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

the can drive and own guns so I don't see why not.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Also your consent angle "HAS" nothing to do with this topic. Debate it on the issue at hand and stop using victims as your political capital. You are really bad at trying to start these political fires, stick to the previous game plan of having JLN create the threads.


Of course it does. Just as America's point about trying kids as adults does. By changing the voting age you are effectively redefining "adult".


That's absurd. It's no different than the driving age. That's a decision making process too. But it doesn't imply you have to redefine that standard of "consent".(Much to the chagrin of Trumpkins and Judge Roy Moore).

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 am ]
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In the end this really doesn't matter much IMO.....1/2 the population over 18 doesn't even vote and when they do they elected a game show host as POTUS. Could it really get any worse by allowing this?

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

Hatchetman wrote:
the can drive and own guns so I don't see why not.



Are you sure they can own guns?

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

Caller Bob wrote:
That's absurd. It's no different than the driving age.


:lol: What age group has the most accidents? Are you making my argument or yours? It's hard to tell.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:05 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Oh so this movement is from "people on Twitter".

So not really a movement based in reality.

Whew.



I'm pretty sure it's real people supporting the idea. I suppose if you don't like it you could dismiss them as "Russian bots".

Author:  tommy [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving 16 year olds voting rights movement

Caller Bob wrote:
tommy wrote:
16 year olds = bad decisions.

Staggeringly bad decisions.



We just saw 50% of this country(people over 18) elect Trump. It doesn't stop at 16.

:lol:

Yeah, but electing Hillary may have been almost as bad

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