I guess it's proof of the horseshoe theory when both the far left and far right can parrot pro-Putin talking points.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyashton/la ... .ggqPlD7Pl

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He is a communist. It is amazing to see Blair's Labor Party handed to him. It would be akin to Bernie Sanders taking over the Leadership of the Senate.

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He is also a literal antisemite who warms to Hezbollah and Hamas

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Well the climate is quite pleasant there.

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I always found it an interesting facet of British politics that the left is tinged with Anti-Jewish sentiment, which I attribute to their relatively sizable Muslim population.

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The anti-Jewish sentiment in British politics can be traced back to the 19th century so I wouldn't attribute it to the Muslim population. It is something that has always been prevalent in British politics

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

But on the left in a post WW2 environment? I mean nearly everyone was anti-Jew pre-WW2.

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So in the US, the Democrats are too obsessed with Russia, while in the UK, Corbyn isn't obsessed enough and too unwilling to start a war immediately? Just want to make sure I know the sufficient level of outrage at Putin and Russia.

Also ogie, shouldn't you be tut-tutting denis for calling him a communist? Given how college kids using the word fascist is a surefire threat to civility and free speech, surely the same should apply to reckless charges of communism.

Where have I argued the Democrats are too obsessed with Russia? Have I ever typed such a thing? The record would show I have not done so.

Also Corbyn is a communist. He literally praised Hugo Chavez's regime in Venezuela on multiple occasions. Even Bernie Sanders knew not to go that far.

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I didn't mean it as a slight or insult. In British politics, socialist does not have the same force that it has here. He is not a traditional European Socialist. He would go much further than that. I believe His family was linked to communism, and he is a supporter of Cuba.

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and Venezuela

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

The UK is even more pozzed than the USA but France and the looming threat of a re-armed Germany keep their behavior under control.

You're nothing but a vassal for Merkel. I hope you've started learning German as Fance is their bitch

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Uh that's definitely been one of the prevailing talking points pushed in the Trump thread by right-leaning people on the board for well over a year now. Perhaps not by you, but then I also seem to have missed the occasions where you assured said people that they're wrong in their "nothing to see here" claims. Perhaps those posters deserve a DBOTW as well?


That doesn't make him a communist any more than Sommers repeatedly associating with Milo and white supremacists made her a fascist.

Germany is not re-arming. Japan is closer to going that route. And American paranoia over other countries arming up is so funny given that our military spending exceeds the next top 10 military spenders combined.

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No Germany is not, but they act like they can when it serves them. They see their currency as their army.

My entire point is that Corbyn running Labor (post Blair) would be like Sanders running the Dem Party (post Clinton). There are no easy labels for Corbyn, but we can look to his positions and see he is way Left of traditional Labor including on the EU.

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They have the same currency as France.

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Re-read the Trump thread as my line in there on Russia has been he himself probably didn't collude (primarily because he's too fucking stupid) but his children/Kushner may have. Perhaps actually know my position on something before you build a strawman.

Once again, I will argue that Corbyn's past and continuing support for Venezuela (he still won't condemn Maduro when asked) is enough for me to label him as such. He has had ample opportunities in the past to pull back that support, yet he continues to grant it, with pride even.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I actually have kinda started studying German Tough language. Nasty grammar.

That's the point.

How about the German Insurance Companies? Look up the full name of Munich Re.

Münchener Rückversicherungs-Gesellschaft

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Once again though, have you been calling out people even more skeptical than you about the investigation? Have you been responding to those critical of the investigation or the priorities of the Democrats altogether? Are there "friends of Putin" on the CSFMB the way Corbyn is evidently supposed to be "Putin's friend in England?"

Has Sommers condemned Milo, Radio 3Fourteen or any of their respective followers at any point in time? If not, then by your own standards it sure seems like it's perfectly acceptable for college students to use the rhetoric they used against her.

I'm calling out Corbyn here because he is literally in power and with May's unpopularity may very well become the next PM of the UK. What's the fucking point in calling out JLN in the Trump thread when half the board is already doing so. As an elected leader, his views/actions have far more reach than any poster or pundit like Sommers.

Your argument is idiotic at best here.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

No your argument is inconsistent at best here and suggests that you're only concerned about procedural speech rights when they apply to opinions you're sympathetic to and largely indifferent otherwise. Additionally, if Sommers is so insignificant either way, then why are we treating her being protested by private citizens at a private university as A Very Important Threat to Free Speech?

Corbyn wont be PM. Even the British dont want him.

Where am I arguing against his right to speak? I'm not saying he can't speak or can't voice his views. I'm simply saying the views he is espousing are wrong and it seems much of his party agrees.

He is certainly allowed to make an ass of himself, as he is here.

Once again, you're being very disingenuous here. I suggest you just take the loss and move on.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Where have I said it's unfair to criticize or challenge Corbyn? My whole point has been all the teeth gnashing about the fate of Discourse gets tossed out the window if the term communist is the one getting thrown around carelessly rather than fascist. Call names and disagree to your heart's content, just don't engage in special pleading if some names get thrown back at you or the people you like.

I don't throw the term "communist" out here a lot. If you want, go search my post history for use of the word and you'll probably not find me using it except when talking about countries which practice or practiced it such as the USSR, North Korea, Cuba, etc. I'll laugh at Bernie's awful proposals, but you won't find a post of me calling him a communist.

In the case of Corbyn, he certainly has shown himself to be quite warm to Communism and I point to his close relationship with Communist regimes as a prime example of this. He is certainly close with Cuba and Venezuela. He certainly goes out of his way to praise leaders who European socialists generally stay away from. When you praise Maduro/Chavez, you deservedly earn the label.

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Actually, Blair was way to the right of traditional labor, just as the current incarnation of the Democratic party stands significantly to the right of major policies from 1932-1980.

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