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Author:  GoldenJet [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Hast du eine Genehmigung?

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44601668


Oh look, a little black girl is selling bottled water...I think I should call the cops on her.

What an asshole.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:23 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?


"Because you know [how? Who cares] that she wouldn't have done that if the girl and her parents were white."

And round and round we go.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

leashyourkids wrote:
It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?


Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.

Author:  America [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:12 pm ]
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I said it in the other thread. It feels staged. 8 seconds of video also doesn't provide a lot of context, what was edited out?

Author:  Jbi11s [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Should have called from inside her apt if it was bugging her so much.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

GoldenJet wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?


Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.


How do you know this?

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:39 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?


Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.


How do you know this?

:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?


Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.


How do you know this?

:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Reasonable based on what?

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?


Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.


How do you know this?

:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Reasonable based on what?

Based on the fact that this is uncommon(although as someone who follows LP news it does happen) and that if you’re this much of a colossal bitch it’s reasonable to infer that you hold other irrational views.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:48 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
It was a total dick move. What does her being black have to do with it?


Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.


How do you know this?

:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Reasonable based on what?

Based on the fact that this is uncommon(although as someone who follows LP news it does happen) and that if you’re this much of a colossal bitch it’s reasonable to infer that you hold other irrational views.


I don't think it is reasonable to assume that all raging assholes are racist. You're just saying they're related because it sounds good for about a microsecond.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
I
Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.


How do you know this?

:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Reasonable based on what?

Based on the fact that this is uncommon(although as someone who follows LP news it does happen) and that if you’re this much of a colossal bitch it’s reasonable to infer that you hold other irrational views.


I don't think it is reasonable to assume that all raging assholes are racist. You're just saying they're related because it sounds good for about a microsecond.


And you're putting up a specious defense because it's your skit.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

How do you know this?

:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Reasonable based on what?

Based on the fact that this is uncommon(although as someone who follows LP news it does happen) and that if you’re this much of a colossal bitch it’s reasonable to infer that you hold other irrational views.


I don't think it is reasonable to assume that all raging assholes are racist. You're just saying they're related because it sounds good for about a microsecond.

No. I’m consistent on this. When I see an adult of one race acting outwardly emotional and hostile towards a child of another race and the action is completely irrational I believe it’s fair to speculate on motivation, and racism is probably more common than being a psychopath.

To be clear, I’m not saying she’s for sure a racist. I’m saying it’s a fair to inhere that based on her actions. I know you disagree, and it’s one of the things you and I will keep disagreeing about.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:53 pm ]
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Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

How do you know this?

:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Reasonable based on what?

Based on the fact that this is uncommon(although as someone who follows LP news it does happen) and that if you’re this much of a colossal bitch it’s reasonable to infer that you hold other irrational views.


I don't think it is reasonable to assume that all raging assholes are racist. You're just saying they're related because it sounds good for about a microsecond.

No. I’m consistent on this. When I see an adult of one race acting outwardly emotional and hostile towards a child of another race and the action is completely irrational I believe it’s fair to speculate on motivation, and racism is probably more common than being a psychopath.

To be clear, I’m not saying she’s for sure a racist. I’m saying it’s a fair to inhere that based on her actions. I know you disagree, and it’s one of the things you and I will keep disagreeing about.


So what is her motivation when she is a colossal bitch to white people, or do you think she's only this way with black people?

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
:lol:

Not everything is a court of law. GoldenJet's inference is reasonable.

Reasonable based on what?

Based on the fact that this is uncommon(although as someone who follows LP news it does happen) and that if you’re this much of a colossal bitch it’s reasonable to infer that you hold other irrational views.


I don't think it is reasonable to assume that all raging assholes are racist. You're just saying they're related because it sounds good for about a microsecond.

No. I’m consistent on this. When I see an adult of one race acting outwardly emotional and hostile towards a child of another race and the action is completely irrational I believe it’s fair to speculate on motivation, and racism is probably more common than being a psychopath.

To be clear, I’m not saying she’s for sure a racist. I’m saying it’s a fair to inhere that based on her actions. I know you disagree, and it’s one of the things you and I will keep disagreeing about.


So what is her motivation when she is a colossal bitch to white people, or do you think she's only this way with black people?

My guess is she’s a bitch to all races but most likely reserves outright hostile actions like this for children or people of other races. I don’t know that to be true, and I don’t care either way because this isn’t a court of law and our opinions are irrelevant.

The point is that someone can reasonable infer that from her actions. I know you disagree, and I think it’s something you are irrationally defensive about.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

FavreFan wrote:
My guess is she’s a bitch to all races


I think that makes the inference of racism unreasonable.

"Yeah, she's that way with everyone, but when she does it to a racial minority it's because of the color of that person's skin" is unreasonable.

And yes, how irrational of me to ask for proof of claims of racial bias, and then question when people claim as reasonable positions that end up not being all that objectively reasonable, like above. :roll:

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
My guess is she’s a bitch to all races


I think that makes the inference of racism unreasonable.

"Yeah, she's that way with everyone, but when she does it to a racial minority it's because of the color of that person's skin" is unreasonable.

And yes, how irrational of me to ask for proof of claims of racial bias. :roll:

Please read my entire response next time before responding. It'll save you embarrassing responses like this. Thanks.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:03 pm ]
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Also, if you don't know that asking for proof of racial bias in this thread is irrational than thank you for making my point.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
My guess is she’s a bitch to all races


I think that makes the inference of racism unreasonable.

"Yeah, she's that way with everyone, but when she does it to a racial minority it's because of the color of that person's skin" is unreasonable.

And yes, how irrational of me to ask for proof of claims of racial bias. :roll:

Please read my entire response next time before responding. It'll save you embarrassing responses like this. Thanks.


Bravo!

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

FavreFan wrote:
asking for proof of racial bias in this thread is irrational


K.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
My guess is she’s a bitch to all races


I think that makes the inference of racism unreasonable.

"Yeah, she's that way with everyone, but when she does it to a racial minority it's because of the color of that person's skin" is unreasonable.

And yes, how irrational of me to ask for proof of claims of racial bias. :roll:

Please read my entire response next time before responding. It'll save you embarrassing responses like this. Thanks.


I did, I cut out the irrelevant bits.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
My guess is she’s a bitch to all races


I think that makes the inference of racism unreasonable.

"Yeah, she's that way with everyone, but when she does it to a racial minority it's because of the color of that person's skin" is unreasonable.

And yes, how irrational of me to ask for proof of claims of racial bias. :roll:

Please read my entire response next time before responding. It'll save you embarrassing responses like this. Thanks.


I did, I cut out the irrelevant bits.

This leads me to believe you don't know what irrelevent means. You're having a rough thread my friend. Maybe try again in the morning.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

I find this thread interesting. JLN and WFR are by far the two biggest “white people are basically never racist” posters here and WFR specifically said his definition of racism would need to include actively trying to harm a minority. So yes, if she was a bitch to all races but reserved calling the police on innocuous actions to minority kids, that would qualify - and make it relevant.

The other thing you should understand JLN is that most of us aren’t wannabe lawyers and this isn’t a court of law. I don’t need to prove anything. All I’m saying is that I think GoldenJet’s inference is reasonable.. You being the “it’s never racism” guy that you are, of course you disagree. That’s it. We aren’t going to agree on this.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:12 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
My guess is she’s a bitch to all races


I think that makes the inference of racism unreasonable.

"Yeah, she's that way with everyone, but when she does it to a racial minority it's because of the color of that person's skin" is unreasonable.

And yes, how irrational of me to ask for proof of claims of racial bias. :roll:

Please read my entire response next time before responding. It'll save you embarrassing responses like this. Thanks.


I did, I cut out the irrelevant bits.

This leads me to believe you don't know what irrelevent means. You're having a rough thread my friend. Maybe try again in the morning.


:roll: so now we've entered the phase where you deflect and claim victory. Bleh.

Do better. Log off. Better luck next time. Try harder. The board has spoken. You're having a rough night. Am I winning yet?

Author:  Jbi11s [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:13 pm ]
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Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
My guess is she’s a bitch to all races


I think that makes the inference of racism unreasonable.

"Yeah, she's that way with everyone, but when she does it to a racial minority it's because of the color of that person's skin" is unreasonable.

And yes, how irrational of me to ask for proof of claims of racial bias. :roll:

Please read my entire response next time before responding. It'll save you embarrassing responses like this. Thanks.


I did, I cut out the irrelevant bits.

This leads me to believe you don't know what irrelevent means. You're having a rough thread my friend. Maybe try again in the morning.


:roll: so now we've entered the phase where you deflect and claim victory. Bleh.

Do better. Log off. Better luck next time. Try harder. The board has spoken. You're having a rough night. Am I winning yet?

I’m not deflecting. You’re literally entering the realm of nonsensical so that’s the best response I can make.

I didn’t claim victory and there’s no need to. This exchange is here for everyone to read and decide themselves.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:14 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I find this thread interesting. JLN and WFR are by far the two biggest “white people are basically never racist” posters here and WFR specifically said his definition of racism would need to include actively trying to harm a minority. So yes, if she was a bitch to all races but reserved calling the police on innocuous actions to minority kids, that would qualify - and make it relevant.

The other thing you should understand JLN is that most of us aren’t wannabe lawyers and this isn’t a court of law. I don’t need to prove anything. All I’m saying is that I think GoldenJet’s inference is reasonable.. You being the “it’s never racism” guy that you are, of course you disagree. That’s it. We aren’t going to agree on this.


Piiiiiissssss off. I've already played "Prove You've Called Things Racist" with LTG. Fuck you for trying to go there with that.

All you said was "I think she only calls the cops on black people" with absolutely no evidence to justify THAT claim, which you then used to justify your claim that the inference of racial bias was reasonable. You just kicked the can of substantiated claims down the road a bit further and proclaimed victory.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:21 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:

Absolutely racially motivated. Little white girl? This lady wouldn't have thought twice.

Zero doubt.


FF, is this a "reasonable inference" or a "definitive" claim?

Shove your attitude you half-wit.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hast du eine Genehmigung?

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I find this thread interesting. JLN and WFR are by far the two biggest “white people are basically never racist” posters here and WFR specifically said his definition of racism would need to include actively trying to harm a minority. So yes, if she was a bitch to all races but reserved calling the police on innocuous actions to minority kids, that would qualify - and make it relevant.

The other thing you should understand JLN is that most of us aren’t wannabe lawyers and this isn’t a court of law. I don’t need to prove anything. All I’m saying is that I think GoldenJet’s inference is reasonable.. You being the “it’s never racism” guy that you are, of course you disagree. That’s it. We aren’t going to agree on this.


Piiiiiissssss off. I've already played "Prove You've Called Things Racist" with LTG. Fuck you for trying to go there with that.

All you said was "I think she only calls the cops on black people" with absolutely no evidence to justify THAT claim, which you then used to justify your claim that the inference of racial bias was reasonable. You just kicked the can of substantiated claims down the road a bit further and proclaimed victory.

I never proclaimed victory. I believe you’re struggling very much in this thread and said as much.

As to the first part of your post, if you don’t realize you’re one of the top deniers of any possible racial motivation for any type of incident ever posted here than you have less self awareness than most. It’s not “trying to go there”. It’s simply responding to your posting history. It’s the same as calling good dolphin a White Sox fan.

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