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| Author: | newper [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fires |
When I was a kid, I remember there were fires, but now it seems like there are fires all over place all the time... what is the deal with that? |
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| Author: | Drunk Squirrel [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
newper wrote: When I was a kid, I remember there were fires, but now it seems like there are fires all over place all the time... what is the deal with that? I’d have to go back and look but after some massive fires around the turn if the 20th century the usfs and BlM developed and promoted a policy of extinguishing fires with in 24 hours of discovery. This led to a build up of fuel. You can find old photos of areas and there is a lot more timber now than those early photos. Couple this with some biological factors such as areas of the north the lodge pole pine becoming the dominate tree. When the lodge pole hits a certain diameter it becomes succeptable to a pine boring beetle that kills it and you end up with a lot of standing, dry fuel. Sorry, memory is a bit fuzzy from the Rocky Mountain ecology classes I took. |
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| Author: | newper [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
Your tree classification sets off something in my mind which I can't recall 100% but I believe some area of the US got a big shipment of trees from Austrailia and planted them... found out that they don't hold a lot of water in them and they actually increased the burn in the area they were trying to protect... I think this is an 80s story... I will try to find the source. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
They need to stop calling them wildfires..this isnt naturally occurring from drought and lightning. These fires are caused by arson or human ineptitude. |
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| Author: | The Hawk [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
newper wrote: When I was a kid, I remember there were fires, but now it seems like there are fires all over place all the time... what is the deal with that? I think that there are more people right now that get their rocks off(literally) by starting fires. We've got a major one right now raging that was set by some 33 year old asshole. A firefighter and bulldozer operator were killed thus far in that fire. |
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| Author: | The Hawk [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
newper wrote: Your tree classification sets off something in my mind which I can't recall 100% but I believe some area of the US got a big shipment of trees from Austrailia and planted them... found out that they don't hold a lot of water in them and they actually increased the burn in the area they were trying to protect... I think this is an 80s story... I will try to find the source. I believe that it was the Eucalyptus trees that they brought out. |
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| Author: | Godfella [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
Dan McNeil wrote: I thought this thread was about Ashley. Thanks a lot, newper. There's 60 seconds of my life that I'll never get back!
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| Author: | Furious Styles [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
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| Author: | newper [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
Furious Styles wrote: Took a while for this one -- thought it would be posted much earlier. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
When you were a kid you probably weren't watching a lot of news nor reading much of the paper. When you were a kid there wasn't the constant news cycle or instant availability of the news. Technological advances combined with a bit of recency bias probably explains your observation ... which I completely relate to, don't get me wrong. |
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| Author: | Tad Queasy [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fires |
312player wrote: They need to stop calling them wildfire She comes down from Yellow Mountain On a dark, flat land she rides On a pony she named Wildfire With a whirlwind by her side On a cold Nebraska night Oh, they say she died one winter When there came a killing frost And the pony she named Wildfire Busted down its stall In a blizard he was lost Chorus She ran calling Wildfire She ran calling Wildfire She ran calling Wildfire By the dark of the moon - I planted But there came an early snow There's been a hoot-owl howling by my window now For six nights in a row She's coming for me I know And on Wildfire we're both gonna go We'll be riding Wildfire We'll be riding Wildfire We'll be riding Wildfire On Wildfire we're gonna ride Gonna leave sodbustin' behind Get these hard times right on out of our minds Riding Wildffire |
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