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Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Beth Mowins

I've been on the "Beth Mowins isn't very good" bandwagon for about a decade. Search function.

She'd always get the bad game....Illinois...so I've heard her plenty. She isn't very good.

But now I can't say that because I'm a sexist. I wish she was better at her job so I would no longer be a sexist.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:11 pm ]
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She just reminds you of the Illinois football "tradition ". And it hurts.

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:11 pm ]
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Sexist!

Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:14 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
Sexist!


Get him Spaulding!!! :lol:

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:16 pm ]
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He's part of that rich white patriarchy. Not a fan of Dicaro either. He hates women in sports!!!

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:34 pm ]
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never heard of her

Author:  Douchebag [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:38 pm ]
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HawaiiYou wrote:
never heard of her

give it another ten years and bump this thread

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:41 pm ]
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When she retires, the media will declare her the greatest announcer of all time.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:28 am ]
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viewtopic.php?f=90&t=113426&p=3017858&hilit=beth+mowins#p3017858

Proud to stand by your side,Doc! I can't stand the sound of her everyman lesbian voiced rumblings.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:54 am ]
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sexyist

Author:  W_Z [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:00 am ]
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what's wrong with being sexy?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:46 am ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I've been on the "Beth Mowins isn't very good" bandwagon for about a decade. Search function.

She'd always get the bad game....Illinois...so I've heard her plenty. She isn't very good.

But now I can't say that because I'm a sexist. I wish she was better at her job so I would no longer be a sexist.

I don't get how this is sexist. Sports fans like us rip on male announcers all the time. Young old, black white, man woman. If they are bad at thier job or they say something funny, people are going to pick up on it.

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:05 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I've been on the "Beth Mowins isn't very good" bandwagon for about a decade. Search function.

She'd always get the bad game....Illinois...so I've heard her plenty. She isn't very good.

But now I can't say that because I'm a sexist. I wish she was better at her job so I would no longer be a sexist.

I don't get how this is sexist. Sports fans like us rip on male announcers all the time. Young old, black white, man woman. If they are bad at thier job or they say something funny, people are going to pick up on it.


Parkins said on Monday the reasons men give for not liking Beth Mowins are dog whistles and they just don't want a woman doing that job. I think Mowins' voice is fine, she just sounds like a robot. I don't need a clown like Dick Vitale to be in hysterics for the duration of the game, but her delivery is completely flat and devoid of human emotion.

Frank is right, male announcers get criticized more often than not, so deflecting any and all criticism as sexist is ridiculous.

Edit: It's Doris Burke who I think sounds like a robot, not Mowins.

Author:  pittmike [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:14 am ]
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You can complain all you want about women not getting a chance to announce a game. You really should not try to make them immune from criticism though. All football broadcasters get blasted. It is truly not that many that are beloved beyond criticism.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:16 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I don't get how this is sexist. Sports fans like us rip on male announcers all the time. Young old, black white, man woman. If they are bad at thier job or they say something funny, people are going to pick up on it.
The problem is that all female announcers get ripped as soon as they step out of being the 30 second sideline reporter role. It's ok to give valid criticism of any announcer but there does seem to be common themes and intense reactions right from the beginning. People went nuts about Jessica Mendoza too.

Author:  spmack [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:19 am ]
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I always get them confused, but which one famously said Northwestern was gonna have a "Persa Party" after winning a game? It was either Beth Mowins or Pam Ward.


edit...it was indeed Mowins... :lol:

Quote:
“It’s a Persa party in Champaign today!”


http://awfulannouncing.com/2011-article ... eek-5.html

Author:  The Hawk [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:36 am ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I've been on the "Beth Mowins isn't very good" bandwagon for about a decade. Search function.

She'd always get the bad game....Illinois...so I've heard her plenty. She isn't very good.

But now I can't say that because I'm a sexist. I wish she was better at her job so I would no longer be a sexist.


Does Illinois actually have a football team? Real uniforms and everything?

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:45 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I don't get how this is sexist. Sports fans like us rip on male announcers all the time. Young old, black white, man woman. If they are bad at thier job or they say something funny, people are going to pick up on it.
The problem is that all female announcers get ripped as soon as they step out of being the 30 second sideline reporter role.

I don't think that's always true. Doris Burke gets more praise than most of her male counterparts. But she actually knows what she is talking about. Beth Mowins doesn't. It was very apparent that Mowins was reading from a script/sheet the entire time and it sounded very awkward. Female broadcasters are fine but I think intense criticism is predictable when they put someone in there that doesn't sound like a professional broadcaster and also doesn't know the sport being played.

Dismissing any criticism of Mowins seems to be making the Dicaro-esque argument that prominent jobs should just be handed to ridiculously unqualified people based on their gender instead of merit.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:48 am ]
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The Hawk wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I've been on the "Beth Mowins isn't very good" bandwagon for about a decade. Search function.

She'd always get the bad game....Illinois...so I've heard her plenty. She isn't very good.

But now I can't say that because I'm a sexist. I wish she was better at her job so I would no longer be a sexist.


Does Illinois actually have a football team? Real uniforms and everything?


2-0 is better than the pro or other "Chicago" college has started.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:50 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I don't get how this is sexist. Sports fans like us rip on male announcers all the time. Young old, black white, man woman. If they are bad at thier job or they say something funny, people are going to pick up on it.
The problem is that all female announcers get ripped as soon as they step out of being the 30 second sideline reporter role.

I don't think that's always true. Doris Burke gets more praise than most of her male counterparts. But she actually knows what she is talking about. Beth Mowins doesn't. It was very apparent that Mowins was reading from a script/sheet the entire time and it sounded very awkward. Female broadcasters are fine but I think intense criticism is predictable when they put someone in there that doesn't sound like a professional broadcaster and also doesn't know the sport being played.

Dismissing any criticism of Mowins seems to be making the Dicaro-esque argument that prominent jobs should just be handed to ridiculously unqualified people based on their gender instead of merit.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=156&t=99632&p=2751749&hilit=doris+burke#p2751749

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:51 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I don't get how this is sexist. Sports fans like us rip on male announcers all the time. Young old, black white, man woman. If they are bad at thier job or they say something funny, people are going to pick up on it.
The problem is that all female announcers get ripped as soon as they step out of being the 30 second sideline reporter role.

I don't think that's always true. Doris Burke gets more praise than most of her male counterparts. But she actually knows what she is talking about. Beth Mowins doesn't. It was very apparent that Mowins was reading from a script/sheet the entire time and it sounded very awkward. Female broadcasters are fine but I think intense criticism is predictable when they put someone in there that doesn't sound like a professional broadcaster and also doesn't know the sport being played.

Dismissing any criticism of Mowins seems to be making the Dicaro-esque argument that prominent jobs should just be handed to ridiculously unqualified people based on their gender instead of merit.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=156&t=99632&p=2751749&hilit=doris+burke#p2751749

:lol: :lol:

Fair. I don’t like her. But if you google her you’ll find I’m in the minority.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:31 pm ]
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She seems to be the one announcer who is a female that people tolerate but she also isn't really in a prominent role. I seem to remember when the Finals roll around she gets sent to the sideline.

I'm also not saying there should be more female announcers. It's that a lot of people don't like any female announcers and don't really provide any substance as to why they are bad.

As for Mowins, my opinion is that she was solid but not spectacular for the ESPN2 Noon football game which has a low production value anyways.

Author:  spmack [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:33 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
.As for Mowins, my opinion is that she was solid but not spectacular for the ESPN2 Noon football game which has a low production value anyways.

Exactly. I don't mind her doing a SW Texas A&M vs SE Louisiana State Technical College or whatever, but keep her away from my NFL.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:42 pm ]
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If she weren't stuck in places like Champaign, Ames or Columbia doing college games from Thursday through Saturday and routinely did pro games I'd give her a harder time for blandly doing a pro game no one really looked forward to or gave a damn about outside their fans.

She's just a professional game manager type imo.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:45 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
If she weren't stuck in places like Champaign, Ames or Columbia doing college games from Thursday through Saturday and routinely did pro games I'd give her a harder time for blandly doing a pro game no one really looked forward to

It was the first MNF game of the season, and fantasy football is a multi billion dollar industry. I think it's safe to assume there were millions of people who aren't Lions or Jets fans who were interested in that game.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:46 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
If she weren't stuck in places like Champaign, Ames or Columbia doing college games from Thursday through Saturday and routinely did pro games I'd give her a harder time for blandly doing a pro game no one really looked forward to or gave a damn about outside their fans.

She's just a professional game manager type imo.
It happens to a lot of good announcers. When the ESPN NBA guys do a college game as part of that broadcaster switch gimmick they are pretty horrible at it.

Author:  pittmike [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:48 pm ]
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Even Barkley gets shit for being bad at college ball during March Madness. But he is Charles so they laugh.

Author:  BigW72 [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:48 pm ]
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Back in the day, my college roommates and I appreciated the work of Robin Roberts on ESPN...they always gave her the shit games and circa mid 90's....she was very good. During confidence pools, we'd always pick a "Robin Roberts" game of the week....it was usually Cardinals v. Seahawks or something similar.

Women in sports fine....just be good at your job.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:52 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
If she weren't stuck in places like Champaign, Ames or Columbia doing college games from Thursday through Saturday and routinely did pro games I'd give her a harder time for blandly doing a pro game no one really looked forward to

It was the first MNF game of the season, and fantasy football is a multi billion dollar industry. I think it's safe to assume there were millions of people who aren't Lions or Jets fans who were interested in that game.


I reserve my ire for unqualified goofs like the dozens of ex Cowboys screaming at me and saying nothing as analysts or broadcast color guys.

Author:  Sarge [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:12 pm ]
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Beth Mowins? ....... Would

Doris Burke? ........ Would (why not :wink: )

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