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GoldenJet

Post subject: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:10 am

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On Mulli and Haugh just now: By Machado going with the Padres offer, he wasn't betting on himself.

Who you crappin' Bruce?!

More guaranteed money and an opt out after five to go get more money IS betting on himself. WTF?!

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 am

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GoldenJet wrote:

ya, it's convenient how the opt-out is being ignored. that's the definition of betting on YOURSELF

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Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 am

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GoldenJet wrote:

Yeah heard that. A line from Sox management to his mouth. And I am not butt hurt he didn't sign.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:20 am

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why would you ever bet when someone else will guarantee.

I'll give Bruce credit though. He isn't biased when carrying water for the management class. Cubs, Sox, Brewers...Bruce licks them all.

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GoldenJet

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:24 am

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Not including an opt out essentially makes the offer a "non-offer". What a waste of time.

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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:30 am

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Kirkwood wrote:

GoldenJet wrote:

ya, it's convenient how the opt-out is being ignored. that's the definition of betting on YOURSELF

Yes, I think the opt-out, which the Sox refused to give, was a big part of his decision. And Mully was right to question Levine on why a player would choose to include team-controlled incentives. Levine tried to counter with some pablum about the Sox wanting to know he would "go to the post" every day, when it's the opposite--assuming he would be in decline like every other player by year 9, the team would almost certainly limit his ability to get to 550 PA to avoid triggering the $35m.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:38 am

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Jaw Breaker wrote:

Just for reference, Jose Abreu had two DL stints last year and still had 553 PAs over 128 games. That amount of PA's in a league where he can DH at least some of the time is not a crazy high amount.

Kyle Schwarber, who was cherry picked and put into only the very best lineup situations for his own benefit, had 510 PAs last season.

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Franky T

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:47 am

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He sounded like an idiot.

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GoldenJet

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:54 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

So what, $50mil more money guaranteed isn't chump change.

I'm curious what the first 5 years of each deal looked like. Total AAV doesn't really matter when there's an opt out.

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Peoria Matt

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:58 am

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Franky T wrote:

He sounded like an idiot.

Yes. And he has sounded like this all off season. " How much money is enough?" was another Bruce quote.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:59 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Kyle Schwarber, who was cherry picked and put into only the very best lineup situations for his own benefit, had 510 PAs last season.

This is overstating it quite a bit. He started 75% of games.

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Peoria Matt

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:03 am

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Another Bruce quote " Players should be on one year deals.".

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:03 am

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Franky T wrote:

He sounded like an idiot.

Did he call JR "Mr. Reinsdorf"? I love when Bruce openly genuflects for management.

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:06 am

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Peoria Matt wrote:

Another Bruce quote " Players should be on one year deals.".

do guys like levine sign contracts like on-air talent or are they at-will employees?

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:32 am

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Kirkwood wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Another Bruce quote " Players should be on one year deals.".

do guys like levine sign contracts like on-air talent or are they at-will employees?

They must have some sort of contract because if him and Julie were at will or employed based on their performance, they would have been GONE long ago.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:34 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Another Bruce quote " Players should be on one year deals.".

do guys like levine sign contracts like on-air talent or are they at-will employees?

They must have some sort of contract because if him and Julie were at will or employed based on their performance, they would have been GONE long ago.

One time I was required to do some research on internal files at a radio station and they inadvertently included Les' contract among the documents.

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Post subject: Re: Bruce Levine

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:00 am

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Franky T wrote:

He sounded like an idiot.

He usually does.

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