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Author:  RFDC [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Herb Lawrence

So it would be completely ok for Herb or Larry to refer to Bernsie as the n word?


Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

RFDC wrote:
So it would be completely ok for Herb or Larry to refer to Bernsie as the n word?


It would sound pretty funny and ridiculous but yeah it’d be ok. :lol:

Weird to get mad about that tweet.

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Who is mad at the tweet? Not I.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Herb, you are one dumb ass cracker!!!!

Author:  Rod [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:07 pm ]
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It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. I don't think that's anything to be mad about. It's not difficult for you not to use it. It shouldn't be difficult for Tim Anderson not to use it. Period.

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

RFDC wrote:
Who is mad at the tweet? Not I.

I’m not saying you’re outraged, just meaning mad in the sense of DBing him

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. I don't think that's anything to be mad about. It's not difficult for you not to use it. It shouldn't be difficult for Tim Anderson not to use it. Period.

Exactly.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:08 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. I don't think that's anything to be mad about. It's not difficult for you not to use it. It shouldn't be difficult for Tim Anderson not to use it. Period.


JORR, you are a dumb pollack.

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. .

From someone who allegedly understands the historical imbalance of power between white and black people in this country, that’s a very “racism is no longer a problem and the n word is no different from any other slur” point of view.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Beardown wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. I don't think that's anything to be mad about. It's not difficult for you not to use it. It shouldn't be difficult for Tim Anderson not to use it. Period.


JORR, you are a dumb pollack.



You're confusing me with good dolphin.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:09 pm ]
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Lmao this thread is getting out of hand.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. I don't think that's anything to be mad about. It's not difficult for you not to use it. It shouldn't be difficult for Tim Anderson not to use it. Period.


JORR, you are a dumb pollack.



You're confusing me with good dolphin.


Oh, Sorry.

I'm also half German.

So if you are part German, then you are a dumb Nazi

Author:  Rod [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. .

From someone who allegedly understands the historical imbalance of power between white and black people in this country, that’s a very “racism is no longer a problem and the n word is no different from any other slur” point of view.



It's not that kind of viewpoint at all. Is there a reason a black person needs to use that word?

Also, I don't think the answer to solving racism is to create different societies that have different "rights".

Author:  Caller Bob [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:12 pm ]
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Herb should lose some weight and convince a woman to fuck him before spouting off.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:13 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Herb should lose some weight and convince a woman to fuck him before spouting off.


He prolly is an incel.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

RFDC wrote:
So it would be completely ok for Herb or Larry to refer to Bernsie as the n word?


Did Tim Anderson call someone that ?

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. .

From someone who allegedly understands the historical imbalance of power between white and black people in this country, that’s a very “racism is no longer a problem and the n word is no different from any other slur” point of view.



It's not that kind of viewpoint at all. Is there a reason a black person needs to use that word?

Also, I don't think the answer to solving racism is to create different societies that have different "rights".

It’s literally exactly that point of view. There’s no way, whatsoever, to square that with your opinion of black people cant be racist in this country. And your use of the word needs isn’t relevant, wants is the better word choice there, and yeah there’s probably a few reasons a black person would want to use that word, otherwise this wouldn’t be a topic of conversation currently.

Your last sentence just reinforces the “racism is no longer a problem” POV. You’re simply acting as if everything is a blank, equal slate. Sounds great in theory but that belies reality and history.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

badrogue17 wrote:
RFDC wrote:
So it would be completely ok for Herb or Larry to refer to Bernsie as the n word?


Did Tim Anderson call someone that ?



Supposedly that's what he called the mediocre pitcher who hit him the other day.

Author:  KDdidit [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

badrogue17 wrote:
RFDC wrote:
So it would be completely ok for Herb or Larry to refer to Bernsie as the n word?


Did Tim Anderson call someone that ?


Hopefully Joe West

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

My mom and dad would get in fights when I was a kid. My dad is 100% polish. So my mom would call him a dumb pollack. Since my mom is mostly German, he would then call her a Nazi to make it even.

It was funny.

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

So a person's employer cannot hold an employee accountable for their actions because of racism?

Anderson was at work. He was not just hanging out with some buddies.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:19 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
So a person's employer cannot hold an employee accountable for their actions because of racism?

Anderson was at work. He was not just hanging out with some buddies.

An employer is not likely to fire a black guy for calling a white guy the "N" word.

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

RFDC wrote:
So a person's employer cannot hold an employee accountable for their actions because of racism?

Nobody said that. Not sure why you would start this thread and then purposely decontexualize the conversation.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. .

From someone who allegedly understands the historical imbalance of power between white and black people in this country, that’s a very “racism is no longer a problem and the n word is no different from any other slur” point of view.



It's not that kind of viewpoint at all. Is there a reason a black person needs to use that word?

Also, I don't think the answer to solving racism is to create different societies that have different "rights".

It’s literally exactly that point of view. There’s no way, whatsoever, to square that with your opinion of black people cant be racist in this country. And your use of the word needs isn’t relevant, wants is the better word choice there, and yeah there’s probably a few reasons a black person would want to use that word, otherwise this wouldn’t be a topic of conversation currently.

Your last sentence just reinforces the “racism is no longer a problem” POV. You’re simply acting as if everything is a blank, equal slate. Sounds great in theory but that belies reality and history.



:lol: Now you're going to explain what I think to me. How does what I said have anything to do with a belief that "racism is no longer a problem"? And I didn't say Tim Anderson was a racist. I said he used a forbidden word.

Does Tim Anderson using that word help solve racism? Or does granting him the right to use that word when you can't make you feel better about the past? Bottom line- Tim Anderson can use whatever words he wants and so can everyone else regardless of their race. You don't have to like it.

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

FavreFan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
So a person's employer cannot hold an employee accountable for their actions because of racism?

Nobody said that. Not sure why you would start this thread and then purposely decontexualize the conversation.


How am I decontextualizing the conversation?

Is that not ultimately what Herb is saying? No one, including MLB should be able to say anything to Anderson because he is a black guy

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It seems to me that the only one who is mad is Herb Lawrence. Either the word is taboo or it isn't. if it's a bad word for one player to use, it's a bad word for all players to use. .

From someone who allegedly understands the historical imbalance of power between white and black people in this country, that’s a very “racism is no longer a problem and the n word is no different from any other slur” point of view.



It's not that kind of viewpoint at all. Is there a reason a black person needs to use that word?

Also, I don't think the answer to solving racism is to create different societies that have different "rights".

It’s literally exactly that point of view. There’s no way, whatsoever, to square that with your opinion of black people cant be racist in this country. And your use of the word needs isn’t relevant, wants is the better word choice there, and yeah there’s probably a few reasons a black person would want to use that word, otherwise this wouldn’t be a topic of conversation currently.

Your last sentence just reinforces the “racism is no longer a problem” POV. You’re simply acting as if everything is a blank, equal slate. Sounds great in theory but that belies reality and history.



:lol: Now you're going to explain what I think to me. How does what I said have anything to do with a belief that "racism is no longer a problem"? And I didn't say Tim Anderson was a racist. I said he used a forbidden word.

Does Tim Anderson using that word help solve racism? Or does granting him the right to use that word when you can't make you feel better about the past? Bottom line- Tim Anderson can use whatever words he wants and so can everyone else regardless of their race. You don't have to like it.

I never said what you’re thinking. I think you know I think you’re a good guy. I’m telling you how your words are coming across in my opinion.

What you said leads to a “racism no longer exists” POV because you are acting like everything between white people and black people are completely even and there’s no imbalance there when you’ve gone out of your way in the past on here to suggest the exact opposite.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

L. Gordon better come get his boy. Making an ass out of himself yet again. I don’t get it, Uber hires black drivers all the time


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Author:  Rod [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

I think he's saying that Anderson saying that to Keller is not as bad as if Keller had said it to Anderson, which is true of course. And if it had happened the other way, Keller would certainly have gotten more than one game.

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

RFDC wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
So a person's employer cannot hold an employee accountable for their actions because of racism?

Nobody said that. Not sure why you would start this thread and then purposely decontexualize the conversation.


How am I decontextualizing the conversation?

Is that a serious question? Just look at the post of yours I just quoted vs the OP. The OP was about a very specific action and word. Your post I just quoted couldn’t be broader if you tried. It’s basically the textbook definition of decontextualizing a conversation.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Herb Lawrence

KDdidit wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
RFDC wrote:
So it would be completely ok for Herb or Larry to refer to Bernsie as the n word?


Did Tim Anderson call someone that ?


Hopefully Joe West

Oh. That must be part of the grow the game thing as well as the bat flip that makes it more fun that all the kids want to see

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