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Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Al Riveron
Nobody in America is worse at their job than this guy did. What a piece of shit.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
I honestly think he should be investigated for fixing games.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
FavreFan wrote:
I honestly think he should be investigated for fixing games.

Wife has me watching ghost adventures. What did I miss?
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I honestly think he should be investigated for fixing games.

Wife has me watching ghost adventures. What did I miss?

Pitt threw it deep in a go route. To say there was incidental contact would be an overstatement. oPI was called, challenged, and upheld.

This was as obvious a no call as the Saints Rams play was a PI.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
FavreFan wrote:
Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I honestly think he should be investigated for fixing games.

Wife has me watching ghost adventures. What did I miss?

Pitt threw it deep in a go route. To say there was incidental contact would be an overstatement. oPI was called, challenged, and upheld.

This was as obvious a no call as the Saints Rams play was a PI.

Gotcha.
To be honest I think the replay review of pi is going to nearly always yield similar results. They have no intention of overturning any of those.

Have any been overturned yet?
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I honestly think he should be investigated for fixing games.

Wife has me watching ghost adventures. What did I miss?

Pitt threw it deep in a go route. To say there was incidental contact would be an overstatement. oPI was called, challenged, and upheld.

This was as obvious a no call as the Saints Rams play was a PI.

Gotcha.
To be honest I think the replay review of pi is going to nearly always yield similar results. They have no intention of overturning any of those.

Have any been overturned yet?

One was overturned in the Philly GB game. Iirc Alshon was called for OPI on his TD and it was correctly overturned. I can’t recall any others.
Author:  Antarctica [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

Keep in mind these are the dregs of society. The worst types of people. If it weren't for the NFL they'd be writing parking tickets or working for the IRS. They are amoral and sociopathic beings. The old guard of NFL refs had a different set of values but these guys have brought up now are truly a different breed. They need to all be fired and kept under strict surveillance, or perhaps turned against our enemies to undermine their institutions.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Antarctica wrote:
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

Keep in mind these are the dregs of society. The worst types of people. If it weren't for the NFL they'd be writing parking tickets or working for the IRS. They are amoral and sociopathic beings. The old guard of NFL refs had a different set of values but these guys have brought up now are truly a different breed. They need to all be fired and kept under strict surveillance, or perhaps turned against our enemies to undermine their institutions.

Yeah you say that but do you recall the replacement refs?
Woof.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Darkside wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

Keep in mind these are the dregs of society. The worst types of people. If it weren't for the NFL they'd be writing parking tickets or working for the IRS. They are amoral and sociopathic beings. The old guard of NFL refs had a different set of values but these guys have brought up now are truly a different breed. They need to all be fired and kept under strict surveillance, or perhaps turned against our enemies to undermine their institutions.

Yeah you say that but do you recall the replacement refs?
Woof.

I recall them. Fail Mary. This 2019 bunch is somehow just as bad as I remember them being.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
FavreFan wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

Keep in mind these are the dregs of society. The worst types of people. If it weren't for the NFL they'd be writing parking tickets or working for the IRS. They are amoral and sociopathic beings. The old guard of NFL refs had a different set of values but these guys have brought up now are truly a different breed. They need to all be fired and kept under strict surveillance, or perhaps turned against our enemies to undermine their institutions.

Yeah you say that but do you recall the replacement refs?
Woof.

I recall them. Fail Mary. This 2019 bunch is somehow just as bad as I remember them being.

I agree it's bad. Documented on the thread about the roughing calls.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
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Antarctica wrote:
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

and yet you’re always crying and throwing a hissy fit about Mack being “held” and no flag :roll:
Author:  Antarctica [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Kirkwood wrote:
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Antarctica wrote:
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

and yet you’re always crying and throwing a hissy fit about Mack being “held” and no flag :roll:

Because the NFL literally had to step in and ban them from calling holding. So now teams know they can get away with it.

What a fucking mess.
Author:  Franky T [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Franky T wrote:
Al Riveron has become the most powerful man in sports. He can basically decide who wins NFL games single-handedly.
Author:  312player [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Darkside wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

Keep in mind these are the dregs of society. The worst types of people. If it weren't for the NFL they'd be writing parking tickets or working for the IRS. They are amoral and sociopathic beings. The old guard of NFL refs had a different set of values but these guys have brought up now are truly a different breed. They need to all be fired and kept under strict surveillance, or perhaps turned against our enemies to undermine their institutions.

Yeah you say that but do you recall the replacement refs?
Woof.



The replacement refs were young and showed improvement. I wish they stayed on.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
NFL officiating has been at crisis levels for years. The refs are obsessed with being part of the game, they want their fingerprints on every play. The ego rush they get from throw the flag and going on the PA is exhilarating and soothes their self importance.

Keep in mind these are the dregs of society. The worst types of people. If it weren't for the NFL they'd be writing parking tickets or working for the IRS. They are amoral and sociopathic beings. The old guard of NFL refs had a different set of values but these guys have brought up now are truly a different breed. They need to all be fired and kept under strict surveillance, or perhaps turned against our enemies to undermine their institutions.

Yeah you say that but do you recall the replacement refs?
Woof.

I recall them. Fail Mary. This 2019 bunch is somehow just as bad as I remember them being.

I agree it's bad. Documented on the thread about the roughing calls.
As this has gone on, I feel more and more that I cannot blame the refs at all. They are not the ones changing the rules year in and year out. They are not the ones changing the replays year in and year out. They are not the ones deciding what calls to 'focus' on year in and year out. They have a split second to decide if a hit or a play violates a new rule, and if they need to throw a flag or not.

Blame the NFL itself and all of the nonsensical rule changes. The refs are just out there trying to do their job-- on a fucking part time basis, mind you-- and interpret the monstrosity that is now the NFL Rule Book.
Author:  billypootons [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Al riveron's explanation of why the Zach miller TD was called incomplete is so terrible and inexplicably stupid, i cant help but laugh. this fucking moron is making decisions for all NFL games.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/240839871?byline=0&badge=0&portrait=0&title=0

watch that video. the best part is the end when he draws an arrow on screen pointing to what he thinks is the ball on the ground.... on screen though all you see is blurry darkness. somehow al riveron thought that blurry image of nothing was clear disputable evidence to overturn the ruling on the field of a TD.

Image
Author:  BigW72 [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Blame the NFL itself and all of the nonsensical rule changes. The refs are just out there trying to do their job-- on a fucking part time basis, mind you-- and interpret the monstrosity that is now the NFL Rule Book.

Agreed, but lets pump the brakes on the "part-time" sympathy. they get full-time money (200K / year). Still....the NFL has overcomplicated their product and made this a no-win situation.

challenges and replay are a joke. Each game should have a booth replay official where they ensure calls are correct and they can simply headset to the on the field officials.
Author:  billypootons [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
the officials are starting to use the scoreboard replays to help make their decisions. When you see a group of them talking... there is always one facing the scoreboard watching the replay so they can then decide whether or not there actually was a penalty... good for them for gaming the system a bit, but i still laugh when i see them doing it.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
I'm not talking about their compensation, wd.

My point is they have to learn all of these rule changes on top of what the league wants to focus on, and what can and cannot be challenged, on a part time basis. Dumbing down a lot of the rules and making the officials- or at least the head referees- full time employees would help the games and calls immensely.
Author:  BigW72 [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Making any of them Full-time gains nothing.
As you said, this is the league's own doing. they could work 80 hours a week and still fuck up replays and enforce stupid rules.
Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
NFL officiating it beyond terrible. It's completely arbitrary what get's called on a play-to-play basis. Take that penalty on Eddie Jackson. Ticky-tack pettiness.
Author:  pittmike [ Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
NFL officiating it beyond terrible. It's completely arbitrary what get's called on a play-to-play basis. Take that penalty on Eddie Jackson. Ticky-tack pettiness.


I blame that on the rule book not the refs. Also, having a rule book being used to provide an edge to offense over defense seems wrong.
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
Holy shit. Not only is that PI, but its also a 5 yard holding as well.

If this is the bullshit they are going to pull, then get rid of all replay.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Al Riveron
wdelaney72 wrote:
Making any of them Full-time gains nothing.
As you said, this is the league's own doing. they could work 80 hours a week and still fuck up replays and enforce stupid rules.
The odd thing is they made a bunch of refs full time in 2018, then reverted them back to part time in 2019 as part of a labor dispute. This, of course, punished anyone that quit a job in 2018 to become a full time employee of the NFL.
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