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Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:41 pm ]
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I really don't understand how buying Christmas presents for the poor incentivizes them to better themselves.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:10 pm ]
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Yeah! Burn down all the soup kitchens and food pantries while you're at it!

Author:  Franky T [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:39 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
I really don't understand how buying Christmas presents for the poor incentivizes them to better themselves.

I don't think that's the purpose. Troll better.

Author:  One Post [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:42 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
I really don't understand how buying Christmas presents for the poor incentivizes them to better themselves.


Agreed, the best way for a six year old to be incentivized to better him/herself, is by getting no toys for Christmas.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:46 pm ]
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Are there no prisons, are there no workhouses?

Author:  One Post [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:46 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
I really don't understand how buying Christmas presents for the poor incentivizes them to better themselves.


Also, does every action have to be motivated by the desire to transform someone else?

Can’t people just desire to be generous because that is a laudable and noble thing to do?

Can’t people act altruistically without requiring some transformations?

Can’t man look at his fellow man and realize there is an opportunity for tenderness and kindness?

Not sure what worldview you have, but if at Christmas your worldview is that giving gifts to underprivileged families is predicated on some bargain that they better themselves as a result, well you are your worldview are quite frankly pathetic.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:48 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Yeah! Burn down all the soup kitchens and food pantries while you're at it!

Just don't conflate that with corporate and Southern states welfare.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:11 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Yeah! Burn down all the soup kitchens and food pantries while you're at it!

Just don't conflate that with corporate and Southern states welfare.
We can burn most of the Southern states too! (sorry, RFDC)

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:22 pm ]
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One Post wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
I really don't understand how buying Christmas presents for the poor incentivizes them to better themselves.


Also, does every action have to be motivated by the desire to transform someone else?

Can’t people just desire to be generous because that is a laudable and noble thing to do?

Can’t people act altruistically without requiring some transformations?

Can’t man look at his fellow man and realize there is an opportunity for tenderness and kindness?

Not sure what worldview you have, but if at Christmas your worldview is that giving gifts to underprivileged families is predicated on some bargain that they better themselves as a result, well you are your worldview are quite frankly pathetic.


My parents worked 18 hour days for six months in order to save up enough to buy me and my brother shitty Huffy bikes.

Id hate to think what would have happened if they didnt take those extra shifts at work and instead spent time with my brother and me with the knowledge that somene else would of just bought the bikes for us.

Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:36 pm ]
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I think all my bikes came from garage sales. One might have been a boy bike which was not accepted in the early 1980s I totally got made fun of but it built character. Both were Christmas gifts. I think these were it. I got a new pink ten speed in 6th grade and I wish I still had it. I remember when they bought me a mountain bike for college that I hated and put that one to the curb. I saw somebody take it away and it haunts me.

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Author:  Rod [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:39 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
My parents worked 18 hour days for six months in order to save up enough to buy me and my brother shitty Huffy bikes.


You'll never beat Newt Cole on a Huffy!

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:45 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
One Post wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
I really don't understand how buying Christmas presents for the poor incentivizes them to better themselves.


Also, does every action have to be motivated by the desire to transform someone else?

Can’t people just desire to be generous because that is a laudable and noble thing to do?

Can’t people act altruistically without requiring some transformations?

Can’t man look at his fellow man and realize there is an opportunity for tenderness and kindness?

Not sure what worldview you have, but if at Christmas your worldview is that giving gifts to underprivileged families is predicated on some bargain that they better themselves as a result, well you are your worldview are quite frankly pathetic.


My parents worked 18 hour days for six months in order to save up enough to buy me and my brother shitty Huffy bikes.

Id hate to think what would have happened if they didnt take those extra shifts at work and instead spent time with my brother and me with the knowledge that somene else would of just bought the bikes for us.

Given how big of an assbag you are, I'm surprised your parents got you anything for Christmas.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:48 pm ]
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Now that you mention it, they did request MANY of those extra shifts voluntarily.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:13 pm ]
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My mom worked 14 hours a day 6 or 7 days per week for many years, but I never got that bike I wanted for Christmas. She should have worked harder.

Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:16 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
My mom worked 14 hours a day 6 or 7 days per week for many years, but I never got that bike I wanted for Christmas. She should have worked harder.


Did she do it alone?

Author:  Nardi [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:28 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
One Post wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
I really don't understand how buying Christmas presents for the poor incentivizes them to better themselves.


Also, does every action have to be motivated by the desire to transform someone else?

Can’t people just desire to be generous because that is a laudable and noble thing to do?

Can’t people act altruistically without requiring some transformations?

Can’t man look at his fellow man and realize there is an opportunity for tenderness and kindness?

Not sure what worldview you have, but if at Christmas your worldview is that giving gifts to underprivileged families is predicated on some bargain that they better themselves as a result, well you are your worldview are quite frankly pathetic.


My parents worked 18 hour days for six months in order to save up enough to buy me and my brother shitty Huffy bikes.

Id hate to think what would have happened if they didnt take those extra shifts at work and instead spent time with my brother and me with the knowledge that somene else would of just bought the bikes for us.

I begged for a Huffy. Got a Sears. To replace my ....Sears.

Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:29 pm ]
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Garage sales are where it's at!

I still don't get new things. :lol:

Author:  Sal Uki [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:32 pm ]
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A gift given with conditions attached is not a gift. To me the giver of the gift (for the pure joy of giving and helping) receives as much, if not more, as the recipient of the gift.

Author:  Nardi [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:34 pm ]
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Jesus checking in to CFMB.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:37 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
Garage sales are where it's at!

I still don't get new things. :lol:


My first bike came from a garage sale as well. My third came from a bike my grandad had to weld back together.

My first really good bike was the one I bought myself.

Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:43 pm ]
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Sal Uki wrote:
A gift given with conditions attached is not a gift. To me the giver of the gift (for the pure joy of giving and helping) receives as much, if not more, as the recipient of the gift.


Clearly you've never met my mil.

Author:  Sal Uki [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:53 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
Sal Uki wrote:
A gift given with conditions attached is not a gift. To me the giver of the gift (for the pure joy of giving and helping) receives as much, if not more, as the recipient of the gift.


Clearly you've never met my mil.


Would she benefit from the visit of 3 spirits to teach her the true meaning of gift giving?

Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:58 pm ]
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They are visiting her now in lots of ways. She won't give up the goat. It's all somebody else's fault. She's crazy.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:12 pm ]
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Sal Uki wrote:
A gift given with conditions attached is not a gift. To me the giver of the gift (for the pure joy of giving and helping) receives as much, if not more, as the recipient of the gift.


Yeah but like 90% of these Operation Santa people are asking for insulin or a few hundred bucks to pay bills. Thats not asking for a gift, that's asking for a handout.

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:18 pm ]
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never heard of this operation santa.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:20 pm ]
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HawaiiYou wrote:
never heard of this operation santa.


My how the turn tables

Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:22 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:

Yeah but like 90% of these Operation Santa people are asking for insulin or a few hundred bucks to pay bills. Thats not asking for a gift, that's asking for a handout.


We should clearly shut down businesses. That's the best, especially in the long run for everybody.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:23 pm ]
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Fuck Operartion Santa. Total rip off that tricks people into donations like DiCaro failing for fake Twitter accounts.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:27 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:

Yeah but like 90% of these Operation Santa people are asking for insulin or a few hundred bucks to pay bills. Thats not asking for a gift, that's asking for a handout.


We should clearly shut down businesses. That's the best, especially in the long run for everybody.


No its not.

Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:29 pm ]
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your bad, then.

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