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Author:  SpiralStairs [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  The District at Veridian

The future is company towns! Everything old is new again.

https://www.experiencethedistrict.com/

Author:  Darkside [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

SpiralStairs wrote:
The future is company towns! Everything old is new again.

https://www.experiencethedistrict.com/

It looks like streets of woodfield.

Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

Isn't the place in Burr Ridge at County Line and the Stevenson sort of an early version of this? They have residences mixed in, but maybe not in the same buildings.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

They welcomed Topgolf as their firth tenant! (thwack)

Author:  GoldenJet [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:30 pm ]
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They did this sort of thing in Glenview. Happening in Vernon Hills, across from and now at Hawthorne. Mixed use development rather than destination malls. Survival.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

Glenview was a repurposing of the old naval air station, and I think they did a pretty good job with it (even though it feels vaguely creepy and backlot-y here and there). I don't know what the Schaumburg one used to be, but trying to do New Urbanism without even having a train station doesn't seem like it would work. The whole idea of Schaumburg as a suburb was that it was designed for cars and built along expressways rather than railroads. I think it's a uniquely difficult place to reverse-engineer for walkability.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:56 pm ]
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This type of development is the trend in a lot of places.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:12 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Glenview was a repurposing of the old naval air station, and I think they did a pretty good job with it (even though it feels vaguely creepy and backlot-y here and there). I don't know what the Schaumburg one used to be, but trying to do New Urbanism without even having a train station doesn't seem like it would work. The whole idea of Schaumburg as a suburb was that it was designed for cars and built along expressways rather than railroads. I think it's a uniquely difficult place to reverse-engineer for walkability.


The shopping mall as destination is well on its way out the door. This is certainly similar to TODs...just without the trains. Repurposing mall properties into residential/commercial/dining/office space is worth a shot.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:14 pm ]
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https://www.dailyherald.com/news/202103 ... lly-begins

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:39 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20210325/x201cit-needs-to-be-morex201d-250-million-redevelopment-of-hawthorn-mall-officially-begins

The renderings look exactly like Neo-Randhurst. I wish them well.

I spent a lot of time at Hawthorn in the past, but I realize that most malls are on the way out. There will always be a place for Woodfield, but everything else? We have to come up with something else. I hope we can have public spaces again.

Author:  casual fan [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:44 pm ]
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This started 20+ years ago. As malls die, trying to create the "main street" feel. In some cases it's existing malls trying to adapt, others it's all built from new instead of building more malls/big box stuff.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

It's been 20 years since Deer Park opened, which is the first of the main-streety malls that I remember. It hurt Hawthorn a little but really did a number on Randhurst, which emptied out in a hurry until they finally put it out of its misery in 2008. I thought Deer Park was pretty cool when it opened. They had a Panera and a Barnes & Noble; what was not to love? The thought of living, working, and shopping on its campus, though, I think that would get a little stifling.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:59 pm ]
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I always thought deer park was an overly ambitious build out, sort of in the sticks.

I like these islands of compact downtown community. It's great for empty nesters, young couples and singles who can't quite afford the real "Main Street" communities with the metra stops.

Author:  Seacrest [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

Curious Hair wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20210325/x201cit-needs-to-be-morex201d-250-million-redevelopment-of-hawthorn-mall-officially-begins

The renderings look exactly like Neo-Randhurst. I wish them well.

I spent a lot of time at Hawthorn in the past, but I realize that most malls are on the way out. There will always be a place for Woodfield, but everything else? We have to come up with something else. I hope we can have public spaces again.



Power Centers are now in vogue.

Smaller venues anchored by a large grocery store.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

GoldenJet wrote:
I always thought deer park was an overly ambitious build out, sort of in the sticks.

I like these islands of compact downtown community. It's great for empty nesters, young couples and singles who can't quite afford the real "Main Street" communities with the metra stops.

I don't think it's that far out in the sticks now. I'm just barely old enough to remember when Rand north of Dundee was kind of where Here There Be Monsters territory began, but I'd say Deer Park is firmly within suburbia now, albeit the roomier Lake County variant. And now there's a Woodman's in freakin' Volo. Go figure.

Author:  Darkside [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:28 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
I always thought deer park was an overly ambitious build out, sort of in the sticks.

I like these islands of compact downtown community. It's great for empty nesters, young couples and singles who can't quite afford the real "Main Street" communities with the metra stops.

I don't think it's that far out in the sticks now. I'm just barely old enough to remember when Rand north of Dundee was kind of where Here There Be Monsters territory began, but I'd say Deer Park is firmly within suburbia now, albeit the roomier Lake County variant. And now there's a Woodman's in freakin' Volo. Go figure.

Goddamnit that woodmans is in lakemoor. Give us some credit man.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

The intersection of Rand and 120 with the McDonald's gas station and the Fratello's is Volo. I thought Lakemoor doesn't start till you go west on 120. I don't know, I rarely went home that way.

Author:  Darkside [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:35 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
The intersection of Rand and 120 with the McDonald's gas station and the Fratello's is Volo. I thought Lakemoor doesn't start till you go west on 120. I don't know, I rarely went home that way.

IT'S LAKEMOOR!
but yeah fratellos and the mcd is Volo. But lakemoor got the speed cam revenue at that light.
Fun fact, woodmans was gonna pull out of the project unless lakemoor deep sixed the light.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:36 pm ]
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PHIL WOODMAN HERE AND WE'VE GOT SOOOOOO MANY GOVERNMENT CONCESSIONS! AY CARUMBA YOU CAN FEED THE WHOLE FAMILY WITH THESE TAX BREAKS

Author:  The Man [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

Curious Hair wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20210325/x201cit-needs-to-be-morex201d-250-million-redevelopment-of-hawthorn-mall-officially-begins

The renderings look exactly like Neo-Randhurst. I wish them well.

I spent a lot of time at Hawthorn in the past, but I realize that most malls are on the way out. There will always be a place for Woodfield, but everything else? We have to come up with something else. I hope we can have public spaces again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAoh_yt ... isqPYs2H70
He was way ahead of everyone else but 35 years later he could finally get his wish.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

If you don't know about Mojo Nixon then your store could use some fixin'

Author:  Darkside [ Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The District at Veridian

Curious Hair wrote:
If you don't know about Mojo Nixon then your store could use some fixin'

Ok you seem like the type to know this. Are you familiar with the old ads for This Is It Furniture (where you always get a free onion)?

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