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Unreal. Just unreal.

There was a local reporter interviewing a witness. He said he was yelling at cops and some secret service agents that there was a guy climbing a building with a rifle on his back. The guy said they all just look dumb founded at him and didn't react. Then this guy got on the roof, got into position, got set up, was able to aim and actually hit trump in the ear from a couple hundred yards away. Got 8 shots off taking out a civilian as well.

Even without the warning by the witness it's a complete failure by the secret service. Cuz the secret service had snippers on the roofs around the area who's sole responsibility is to constantly scan the area. Especially elevated locations. And this guy was able to hit Trump.

It's obvious that they were ready to kill a potential assasin because they literally took him out about 15 seconds after Trump got shot. So how the fuck did he get 8 shots off? How the fuck did he get set up with the warning by the witness?

I hate Trump by the way. Just saying this is absolutely inexcusable.

Makes you think it was a setup. It just does. I'm sorry.


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UNREAL. JUST UNREAL.

THERE WAS A LOCAL REPORTER INTERVIEWING A WITNESS. HE SAID HE WAS YELLING AT COPS AND SOME SECRET SERVICE AGENTS THAT THERE WAS A GUY CLIMBING A BUILDING WITH A RIFLE ON HIS BACK. THE GUY SAID THEY ALL JUST LOOK DUMB FOUNDED AT HIM AND DIDN'T REACT. THEN THIS GUY GOT ON THE ROOF, GOT INTO POSITION, GOT SET UP, WAS ABLE TO AIM AND ACTUALLY HIT TRUMP IN THE EAR FROM A COUPLE HUNDRED YARDS AWAY. GOT 8 SHOTS OFF TAKING OUT A CIVILIAN AS WELL.

EVEN WITHOUT THE WARNING BY THE WITNESS IT'S A COMPLETE FAILURE BY THE SECRET SERVICE. CUZ THE SECRET SERVICE HAD SNIPPERS ON THE ROOFS AROUND THE AREA WHO'S SOLE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO CONSTANTLY SCAN THE AREA. ESPECIALLY ELEVATED LOCATIONS. AND THIS GUY WAS ABLE TO HIT TRUMP.

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THEY WERE READY TO KILL A POTENTIAL ASSASIN BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY TOOK HIM OUT ABOUT 15 SECONDS AFTER TRUMP GOT SHOT. SO HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET 8 SHOTS OFF? HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET SET UP WITH THE WARNING BY THE WITNESS?

I HATE TRUMP BY THE WAY. JUST SAYING THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE.

MAKES YOU THINK IT WAS A SETUP. IT JUST DOES. I'M SORRY.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq6B3hAFOeE

Mainstream media outlets don't play this video. Not from what I see.

Watch this guy turn up dead or disappear. FBI agents have already gotten to him I'm sure.

If true, this is the story. This is the headline of the day. I know he needs to be vetted in case he's a plant and lying. I don't think he is though.

Watch this get taken down from youtube. I'm positive that will happen. But it will be constantly reposted.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq6B3hAFOeE

Mainstream media outlets don't play this video. Not from what I see.

Watch this guy turn up dead or disappear. FBI agents have already gotten to him I'm sure.

If true, this is the story. This is the headline of the day. I know he needs to be vetted in case he's a plant and lying. I don't think he is though.

Watch this get taken down from youtube. I'm positive that will happen. But it will be constantly reposted.


Fox played it shortly before they had a former Secret Service agent on to rhapsodize about the great job his former colleagues did today. :lol:

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Well they don’t wanna really do Trump 2.

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Well they don’t wanna really do Trump 2.

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Here's the full video of his interview. Makes a good point. Very few building in this area. Why not a secret service agent on every building? To observe, obviously. But also to insure that nobody can get up on one? Seems like this would be Secret Service 101.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gv5Qq0c6p4


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I don't want to hear how tough their job is or that they couldn't have prevented this. Securing all building is an obvious and easy thing to do. Just putting a guy on all of them is fucking easy. From what I've seen, there were less then 10 building around the area.

Just makes you think it was a set up to kill Trump. They allowed him 8 shots. He missed by an inch.

Let's assume they didn't see him climbing the building. That this guy was lying. After the first shot, it should have been "Turn and burn" by the snippers on the other roofs. Should have been over. It was over 10 seconds after Trump got hit. So that makes you think it was allowed.


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The guy got off 8 shots?

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I don't want to hear how tough their job is or that they couldn't have prevented this. Securing all building is an obvious and easy thing to do. Just putting a guy on all of them is fucking easy. From what I've seen, there were less then 10 building around the area.

Just makes you think it was a set up to kill Trump. They allowed him 8 shots. He missed by an inch.

Let's assume they didn't see him climbing the building. That this guy was lying. After the first shot, it should have been "Turn and burn" by the snippers on the other roofs. Should have been over. It was over 10 seconds after Trump got hit. So that makes you think it was allowed.


Look, when you initiate a Global Pandemic just to get rid of Trump, understaffing Trump's security detail so an Antifa patsy can take a shot at Trump is no big deal.

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I'm also aware that the mainstream media does not want to show this guy because it will incite riots and attempts on Biden and/or other democrats. If he's telling the truth, it's clear it's a government hit on Trump.

But it's all over the internet. So they can report it. I was gonna say why don't other media try to find him, interview him themselves and try to vet him. But I guarantee you this guy has been taken by the FBI and is in a hotel room with agents guarding his door.

What can they do though? You can't put this tooth paste back in the tube. If he disapears or dies then it's clear it was a Trump hit.

If they don't kill him, media will find him and he'll repeat the story. Then the cops and secret service will have to answer to his story. What are they gonna do? They all gonna say he's lying? Probably. That's there only option.

I guess everybody has a price. If our government pays him 20 million I'm sure he'd be willing to say he was lying. I guess that's the other option.


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Have you guys seen the overhead maps? Why in thre hell was that north building where the shooter was uncovered? It's literally the best place to put a sniper.

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Have you guys seen the overhead maps? Why in thre hell was that north building where the shooter was uncovered? It's literally the best place to put a sniper.


Yes. Exactly. It's amazing. Secret Service were on other roofs. Not the best one, though.

Makes you fucking think. Plus the warning by the witness to agents. Plus allowing 8 shots getting off. Then immediately taking him down after Trump was hit and jumped on by secret service. Really quick to kill him after Trump got shot. Not that quick for the first 7 shots.


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Have you guys seen the overhead maps? Why in thre hell was that north building where the shooter was uncovered? It's literally the best place to put a sniper.

This is what makes no sense to me. There were not that many places to cover. They are reporting it was outside the secure area, but that does not add up.

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Have you guys seen the overhead maps? Why in thre hell was that north building where the shooter was uncovered? It's literally the best place to put a sniper.


Yes. Exactly. It's amazing. Secret Service were on other roofs. Not the best one, though.

Makes you fucking think. Plus the warning by the witness to agents. Plus allowing 8 shots getting off. Then immediately taking him down after Trump was hit and jumped on by secret service. Really quick to kill him after Trump got shot. Not that quick for the first 7 shots.

Where are you seeing that he got off 8 shots?

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Here's another guy saying he saw the shooter climbing the roof. He also said he tried to alert cops. This was on Newsnation. So 2 eye witnesses saw a guy climbing a building. No Secret Service saw this when all they are doing is looking for this. That's there entire job. 2 civilians saw it and they missed it. That's fucking weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuGkFs6VeYA


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Have you guys seen the overhead maps? Why in thre hell was that north building where the shooter was uncovered? It's literally the best place to put a sniper.


Yes. Exactly. It's amazing. Secret Service were on other roofs. Not the best one, though.

Makes you fucking think. Plus the warning by the witness to agents. Plus allowing 8 shots getting off. Then immediately taking him down after Trump was hit and jumped on by secret service. Really quick to kill him after Trump got shot. Not that quick for the first 7 shots.

There's one building to the back left if you're on stage looking out that is the perfect counter sniper location. It has no line of sight to the stage but has line of sight to every building that has line of sight to the stage. That's the spot for counter snipers.
Having counter snipers at the stage where they were is textbook. But not covering that north building is impossible to defend. At minimum someone should have been on that building. But not focusing on a prime nest... it's weird.

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Other bad things by the SS. I saw video of a female SS agent fumbling her gun while trying to get it out of the holster like Fredo.

The guy in a military outfit with a long gun immediately came to the front of the stage after Trump went down. His knees buckled he was so scared. He almost fell down. Somebody said in the youtube comments that another SS agent hid behind an SUV during the shooting. Then he eventually came out to help cover up Trump with the other guys. He was suppose to immediately protect Trump and be willing to take a bullet. That's the job.

So no, bad day for the SS.

I'm not saying I wouldn't have been scared. But they are trained for this.


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Well... the A team at the SS is probably on POTUS. I'm sure this was the C or D team on Trump. Kinda don't have a problem with that. POTUS should have the A team.

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That being said... I still think they fumbled this badly at best.

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This might be crazy. Just a theory that popped into my head.

The shooter was military and/or secret service told to be on that building and went rogue. He tried to kill Trump on his own. That's maybe why SS and the cops didn't respond to the witnesses telling them there was a guy climbing the roof. Cuz he was one of theirs and he was suppose to be on the building.

This would actually make more sense to me then all of the other flaws we discussed.


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This might be crazy. Just a theory that popped into my head.

The shooter was military and/or secret service told to be on that building and went rogue. He tried to kill Trump on his own. That's maybe why SS and the cops didn't respond to the witnesses telling them there was a guy climbing the roof. Cuz he was one of theirs and he was suppose to be on the building.

This would actually make more sense to me then all of the other flaws we discussed.

That's not a good hypothesis.

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Yeah. I was wrong. Cuz the FBI just released his name. Thomas Mathew Crooks. 20 years old.

They would have mentioned if he was part of the security if my theory was correct. They didn't.


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Yeah. I was wrong. Cuz the FBI just released his name. Thomas Mathew Crooks. 20 years old.

They would have mentioned if he was part of the security if my theory was correct. They didn't.


It would be better to learn this was a world government conspiracy to kill Trump. The alternative is worse. A snot-nosed kid outsmarting law enforcement and the secret service should get everyone fired. Spectators managed to see what the professionals with the 360 view are paid and trained to see.

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Still can't get over this. Never will. Hate that CNN has guys gushing over the tough job that Secret Service have.

This was not tough. You are looking for exactly what happened. And they missed it. And simply putting a guy on the roof of that building would have solved it. Just one guy. Not that difficult.

I'm not trained. But if I was asked to secure this area I would have said. "Shit, that building makes us vulnerable. Let's just put a guy with a rifle up there." Oh yeah, let's also keep our eyes peeled for people scaling buildings with rifles on their backs. And with our other guys on buildings with guns, let's be sure and kill anybody after the first shot. Let's not let him get off 8. But that shouldn't be a problem since we'll have our own guys on each of the surrounding buildings. Ok, huddle up everybody, Secret Service on 3. One, Two, Three...break!!!!!

What happened was absolutely preventable. It was actually easy. Didn't require much man power or high level thought. No training was necessary for this one. Just common sense.

And any thought that this was allowed to happen doesn't make you crazy. There is no way that building should not have been secured. Not to mention ignoring a couple people yelling "Hey, officers, there is a guy climbing the building with a gun. Want to get on this?"


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