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I blame the landlord.

spanky wrote:

I blame the landlord.

In High School, I got in a fight with one of my best friends. The teacher came to break up the fight, my buddy took a swing at me, I ducked and he caught the teacher right in the mouth!

We had a very cool teacher, Mr Velez. He made sure we made up and said he wasn't going to report it and saved our ass.

We got the man a Lou Malnatis for lunch.

(The argument was over if NT played a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense in high school, lol...yes, important stuff)

When I was a freshman in high school we had a student teacher for my Spanish class. One day the whole class was fucking around like wild animals. Terry Ehardt who was teaching his class across the hall heard the ruckus and came in to help out the poor student teacher. He looked at me and my friend Al Gienko in the back of the class and told us to meet him in the hallway after the period. I was a scared little freshman. Gienko was about 6'5" 240 but he was probably scared too. Ehardt wasn't a guy to fuck around with.

So we meet E after class and he asks Gienko his name. "Oh, Greg's brother! Greg never gave me any shit and I don't expect any out of you. Now put your back against those lockers." And then E blasted him in the chest. I'm about shitting my pants by this point. So E looks at me and asks my name. "I've never heard of you. Get your back against those lockers!" He stares at all 5'4" 100 lbs. of me and says, "Shit, I'd probably kill you. Gienko, you're gonna take one for your buddy." And he blasts Al in the chest again.

So you're saying that your signature is bullshit?

Author:	conns7901 [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Teacher or School District?
I guess Parents/Lawyers who have caused this type of policy to be put in place could of been included. Teacher is a dumbass for letting kids taunt each other which led up to the fight if that's what happened. Classroom Beating: Florida Student Gets Pummeled While Teacher Sits Back Growing Number of Schools Instruct Teachers Not to Stop Fights Without Proper Training By SARAH NETTER Dec. 1, 2010 The pummeling of a Palm Beach, Fla., middle school boy by another student has infuriated the boy's family who say the teacher did nothing but sit by his computer while the fight raged in his classroom. Video of the fight between Joshua Poole, 13, and his Jeaga Middle School classmate shows Poole swinging wildly as he is punched repeatedly before falling to the floor. The teacher's inaction was reportedly due to a school policy that staff can only intervene after undergoing training, according to the school district. That type of "policy run amok" is a growing problem in schools across the country, according to Carol Kochhar-Bryant, a professor at George Washington University's Graduate School of Education and Human Development. "In the past there have been many families, if the child gets injured in any way by an intervention by a teacher, there have been instances where the teachers have been reprimanded," she said. "Those policies protect the school, they protect the teacher, but we are realizing now they don't protect the child in those situations." Palm Beach County school district officials insist the teacher followed procedure during the middle school fight, which took place last month, and that he was not properly trained per district protocol to break up such altercations. "When the students would not stop fighting, the teacher went to the hallway to get help," read a statement released by the school district. "Assistant Principal Brent Higley responded and helped stopped the fight." Both students were discplined. Poole's father, Clarence Poole told ABC's Palm Beach affiliate WPBF-TV that the fight came after previous incidents of bullying. "It keeps happening, you know, the same thing," he told the station. "Somebody will just come up behind him and start brutalizing him. I send my kid to school to get educated, not to get killed. It's really bad." The Pooles' lawyer, Craig Goldenfarb, said he planned to sue on their behalf, charging negligence on the part of the school district. Goldenfarb said Joshua would be seen by a pediatric neurologist for repeated headaches and blurred vision. Marla Ruth Brassard, professor of psychology and education and director of clinical training at Columbia University's Teacher's College in New York City, said she's seen similar hands-off policies, but in places like youth prisons and psychiatric facilities. The fight -- captured on another student's cell phone video -- came to blows only after minutes of taunting. Goldenfarb said the teacher should have stopped it before it ever came to physical violence. "I think the teacher should be trained at least to intervene when children are taunting someone else," he said. "He was sitting at his desk on his computer is what my client tells me." The parents of the other boy, classmate Adrian Thompson, told WPBF that their son had been provoked by Poole in the weeks leading up to the fight. But they, too, agreed that the teacher bore some responsibility. "You're the adult," Mara Cornish told the station "You're supposed to stop it." There have been other recent instances of student fights that have escalated after teachers, citing policy, backed off. In November, an Alabama news station aired footage of a classroom fight between two boys during which the teacher, who initially appeared to be trying to diffuse the argument, walks away, even as one of the boys struggles to get up following a hard blow. But there is the flip side. According to media reports, a Florida teacher's jaw was discloated while he was trying to break up a fight this spring. And in June, according to the Boston Globe, a 65-year-old teacher collapsed and died after intervening between two high school students, a boyfriend and girlfriend. Kochhar-Bryant said such hands-off policies have been building over the last several years, but the balance of liability concern and a zero tolerance toward classroom violence often conflict. "Now you have crazy situations where kids are handcuffed," she said. There are seeds of a turnabout, she noted, in larger, urban school districts where administrators have taken it upon themselves to draft a type of school safety policy that backs away from the idea that teachers shouldn't get involved. "It's been slow to be implanted, I think," she said. Teachers, she said, "are entrusted by society to take care of children." "If you have the adults ... vacating that responsibility, you have no one there to keep them safe," she said.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Teacher or School District?
I will withhold my vote until I hear CGS's take on this situation.

Author:	spanky [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Teacher or School District?
I blame the landlord.

Author:	NearWessSideHussra [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Teacher or School District?
Parents.

Author:	bigfan [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Teacher or School District?
In High School, I got in a fight with one of my best friends. The teacher came to break up the fight, my buddy took a swing at me, I ducked and he caught the teacher right in the mouth! We had a very cool teacher, Mr Velez. He made sure we made up and said he wasn't going to report it and saved our ass. We got the man a Lou Malnatis for lunch. (The argument was over if NT played a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense in high school, lol...yes, important stuff)

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Author:	Free Ajent [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:54 pm ]
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spanky wrote: I blame the landlord.

Author:	spmack [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:09 pm ]
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Free Ajent wrote: spanky wrote: I blame the landlord. I just did the same thing, literally.

Author:	Seacrest [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:45 pm ]
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bigfan wrote: In High School, I got in a fight with one of my best friends. The teacher came to break up the fight, my buddy took a swing at me, I ducked and he caught the teacher right in the mouth! We had a very cool teacher, Mr Velez. He made sure we made up and said he wasn't going to report it and saved our ass. We got the man a Lou Malnatis for lunch. (The argument was over if NT played a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense in high school, lol...yes, important stuff) They played a 5-2. You were both wrong.

Author:	Douchebag [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:22 am ]
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I blame Hawkeye Vince.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:26 am ]
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Video?

Author:	The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:41 am ]
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There should've been a third poll option: "Neither"

Author:	sjboyd0137 [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:41 am ]
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immessedup17 wrote: I blame november

Author:	Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:57 am ]
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I voted for the District by default. I would have done the same thing if I were the teacher. Let those two thugs take each other out so they don't grow up and mug me later.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Teacher or School District?
bigfan wrote: In High School, I got in a fight with one of my best friends. The teacher came to break up the fight, my buddy took a swing at me, I ducked and he caught the teacher right in the mouth! We had a very cool teacher, Mr Velez. He made sure we made up and said he wasn't going to report it and saved our ass. We got the man a Lou Malnatis for lunch. (The argument was over if NT played a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense in high school, lol...yes, important stuff) When I was a freshman in high school we had a student teacher for my Spanish class. One day the whole class was fucking around like wild animals. Terry Ehardt who was teaching his class across the hall heard the ruckus and came in to help out the poor student teacher. He looked at me and my friend Al Gienko in the back of the class and told us to meet him in the hallway after the period. I was a scared little freshman. Gienko was about 6'5" 240 but he was probably scared too. Ehardt wasn't a guy to fuck around with. So we meet E after class and he asks Gienko his name. "Oh, Greg's brother! Greg never gave me any shit and I don't expect any out of you. Now put your back against those lockers." And then E blasted him in the chest. I'm about shitting my pants by this point. So E looks at me and asks my name. "I've never heard of you. Get your back against those lockers!" He stares at all 5'4" 100 lbs. of me and says, "Shit, I'd probably kill you. Gienko, you're gonna take one for your buddy." And he blasts Al in the chest again.

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Author:	Rod [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:30 am ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: So you're saying that your signature is bullshit? The sig is just something OKC said to spmack that I found amusing. I probably should have attributed it. I'm a lover not a fighter, Ugie!

Author:	spmack [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:51 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Teacher or School District?
R6chel, Nas, London Gentleman, and Starch Joe wrote: I blame Big Fan