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Wasn't there a story not too long ago about how a majority of the SEAL Team 6 peeps went down in another chopper accident?

Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Wasn't there a story not too long ago about how a majority of the SEAL Team 6 peeps went down in another chopper accident?

Not the same guys that were in the Geronimo mission. I believe there was a false report initially that they were the same crew.

The author is the DB, not Fox News. Did this guy really think that he could write a book like this & remain completely anonymous?

Scorehead wrote:

The author is the DB, not Fox News. Did this guy really think that he could write a book like this & remain completely anonymous?

Exactly!

Fox News is actually doing its job in this circumstance. There is nothing inconsistent with saying it is important to keep thier identities classified and then reporting the name when the decides to try to cash in on his "anonymous" service.

they both are. The author perhaps more so for revealing any military secrets, etc.

City of Fools wrote:

they both are. The author perhaps more so for revealing any military secrets, etc.

All of the articles I've read say the book contains no classified information.

Douchebag wrote:

City of Fools wrote:

they both are. The author perhaps more so for revealing any military secrets, etc.

All of the articles I've read say the book contains no classified information.

they had some high ranking military guy on Channel 7 this morning stating that the guy writing about how the raid took place would be a hindrance for the next set of raids. I dunno.

At a time when the country needed something, anything, we killed bin Laden. America won. Good triumphed over evil. Bin Laden was unanimously agreed upon as one of the most evil human beings to ever walk the earth, and his demise was celebrated like the U.S. Hockey team winning the gold in the 1980 winter Olympics. The night the president announced that bin Laden had been killed, America was a nation again — for a day or two.

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Oh for fuck's sake.

I've never served in the military, but this seems a little heavy-handed. What the hell did America "win"? Did the thousands of innocent lives lost on 9/11 automatically rise from the dead? I seem to also recall a large group of Americans react to bin Laden's death with an overwhelming "meh". Most of the scenes we saw on television of people "rejoicing" were drunk kids on a college campus.

Seal Team 6 did exactly what they needed to do, and that was shoot the motherfucker. Everyone knew it was going to happen at some point.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:32 pm ]
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Ignoring a slew of serious legal and retaliatory ramifications, Fox News today released what it claims is the name of the former SEAL Team Six member who is set to release a book about his personal involvement in the successful mission to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. Entitled No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama bin Laden, the book was penned by the author under the pseudonym Mark Owen due to concerns for his safety. Indeed, a Navy spokesman, Lt. Cmdr. Chris Servello, tells Fox News, "any service member who discloses classified or sensitive information could be subject to prosecution," irrespective of status. It is unclear how much classified information is contained in the book, as it has not been vetted by either the White House or the Pentagon. The question of "Owen's" personal security has also been brought up. His publisher, E. P. Dutton was planning to disguised the author's face and voice during television interviews coinciding with the book's September 11th release. With his name now public, there is some concern that devotees of bin Laden could attempt to harm the author or his family. As pointed out by Adam Weinstein at Mother Jones, the Fox News reporter who outed the Navy SEAL, Justin Fishel, is the very same reporter who just a year ago reported on the importance of keeping the team members' identities a secret. Some commenters found particular irony in the fact that this report appears under the banner of Fox News, which repeatedly claims to be more patriotic and troop-friendly than its competitors. UPDATE: No Easy Day publisher Dutton has released the following statement: Mark Owen, like every SEAL he has served with, has put his life on the line time and again for his country for more than a decade. Sharing the true story of his personal experience in NO EASY DAY is a courageous act in the face of obvious risks to his personal security. That personal security is the sole reason the book is being published under a pseudonym. We respectfully request that all news organizations and all Americans consider these facts when deciding whether to pursue or publicize his real identity.

Author:	City of Fools [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:42 pm ]
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where are the profits going to on the book sales?

Author:	Frontman [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:57 pm ]
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Fox News should just be a DB Hall of Fame entry and leave it at that. Same with any of the so called "news" outlets.

Author:	Chus [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:07 pm ]
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Author:	Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:22 pm ]
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Wasn't there a story not too long ago about how a majority of the SEAL Team 6 peeps went down in another chopper accident?

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Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:36 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Wasn't there a story not too long ago about how a majority of the SEAL Team 6 peeps went down in another chopper accident? Not the same guys that were in the Geronimo mission. I believe there was a false report initially that they were the same crew.

Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:36 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Wasn't there a story not too long ago about how a majority of the SEAL Team 6 peeps went down in another chopper accident? That's what they wanted you to believe...

Author:	Scorehead [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:58 am ]
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The author is the DB, not Fox News. Did this guy really think that he could write a book like this & remain completely anonymous?

Author:	Mr. Belvidere [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:18 am ]
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Its too easy but correct.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:05 am ]
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Scorehead wrote: The author is the DB, not Fox News. Did this guy really think that he could write a book like this & remain completely anonymous? Exactly! Fox News is actually doing its job in this circumstance. There is nothing inconsistent with saying it is important to keep thier identities classified and then reporting the name when the decides to try to cash in on his "anonymous" service.

Author:	Big Chicagoan [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:24 am ]
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Didn't the AP release the name as well? They also deserve a DB.

Author:	pittmike [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:08 am ]
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That wouldn't fit the "Bernsie-like" narrative that Fox news is just biased shit. The other media however is not biased because they prefer the left.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:13 am ]
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Chus wrote:

Author:	Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:34 am ]
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good dolphin wrote: Scorehead wrote: The author is the DB, not Fox News. Did this guy really think that he could write a book like this & remain completely anonymous? Exactly! Fox News is actually doing its job in this circumstance. There is nothing inconsistent with saying it is important to keep thier identities classified and then reporting the name when the decides to try to cash in on his "anonymous" service. Fox News's Justin Fishel broke the story. Just because the author is a DB doesn't mean someone who rats out his name can't also be a DB. They both are. Not a smart decision by the Team 6 member and not a smart decision by Fox News. Even if I had the information, maybe you just hold back on that one. Maybe it isn't worth being first to report the name. I wasn't exactly thrilled when they rushed to get his name out. Just a lot of poor decisions all around.

Author:	Northside_Dan [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:08 am ]
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FELLOW SEAL‘S STRONG MESSAGE FOR ’BENEDICT ARNOLD’ BEHIND BIN LADEN RAID BOOK: ‘WE WEEP FROM YOUR BETRAYAL’ Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:01amPrint »Email »Comments (83) GUEST POST scott@glennbeck.com Author's Website Editor’s Note: The op-ed below is from a former Navy SEAL and friend of TheBlaze, who has asked to remain unnamed. The Op-Ed is a response to the upcoming book “No Easy Day,” which gives a first-hand account of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. The upcoming book is co-authored by a former Navy SEAL under the pseudonym Mark Owen. The SEAL has been identified Thursday, and many news outlets have published his name. TheBlaze has not. – Mark is a legend. He‘s the operator’s operator. He’s a leader and a perfectionist. He’s the quiet professional completely dedicated to God and country. Which is why it makes what he’s done so devastating. Now I know how General Washington must have felt the moment he discovered his most trusted general had compromised his commitment to liberty for all in favor of happiness and riches for himself. Washington must have wept for his friend and he prayed for his soul because he knew that Benedict Arnold would be tormented by his actions the remainder of his life. Living with a compromised character is the definition of hell on earth. It took me all of two text messages to figure out who wrote the book, and in an instant my heart was broken. I’m still conflicted. I‘m mad but I don’t want to be. Part of me understands why Mark did what he did, but there’s another part of me is so disappointed it makes me physically ill. Every SEAL I’ve spoken with feels betrayed by his actions. He’s loved by his brothers, but forbidden to ever stand within their circle again. This book cover shows "No Easy Day" Credit: AP When you wear the uniform you are required to be above politics. Take, for example, General McChrystal. He was betrayed by all that is wrong with the American media political complex and he went quietly. The pundits were frothing at the mouth for him to lash out and pit his character against the commander in chief’s character in a death match, but he refrained. He simply marched out to the gallows in the public square and paid the man. Why? He is a man of character. He understood that his actions were a reflection of the long gray line from which he came. He mounted no defense because he understood that it wasn’t his place to defend himself against his elected bosses. The American people expect this from their military members. It gives them hope. As twisted as it may seem to some Americans, there needs to exist a group of people who will say nothing more than “yes sir” when it comes to the defense of our most sacred ideas. This level of commitment to the ideals is what holds the country together. It’s modern day seppuku. At a time when the country needed something, anything, we killed bin Laden. America won. Good triumphed over evil. Bin Laden was unanimously agreed upon as one of the most evil human beings to ever walk the earth, and his demise was celebrated like the U.S. Hockey team winning the gold in the 1980 winter Olympics. The night the president announced that bin Laden had been killed, America was a nation again — for a day or two. When President Obama met the team who killed OBL he didn’t dare ask who pulled the trigger, and if he had, they wouldn’t have said a word. The operators were all given the same award for that mission. That’s the way it was supposed to be. You ask for nothing and you are prepared to give everything. Anyone who serves should expect nothing. We are all going to be wronged and failed by the system. It’s government bureaucracy, that‘s what it’s designed to do; fail. That’s part of the relationship. The moment you believe you’re entitled to anything other than opportunity, you’ve compromised the founding principles of this country. You should be proud to have had the opportunity to have served her, especially if you served at a time of war, and especially if were granted the opportunity to possibly die in her defense. Your reward will not come while you walk the earth. It’s hard not to be bitter at times, especially as you watch the American sense of entitlement grow exponentially while its sense of contribution, service and sacrifice dwindles. The further those ideals drift from one another, the more likely they will eventually meet in violent collision. Ten years of war without rest creates a hollow place inside you that cannot be filled by anything on this earth and it’s easy to allow the bitterness and hate build inside you. The American military must remain a living example of the purest form of American ideals. Entitlement leads to weakness and weakness facilitates dependency and dependency is the mother of tyranny. When you are hard and disciplined you can be principled. People fear you because they have no leverage against you. It’s the truest form of liberty. Every advancement and tactic developed and tested in war since the beginning on modern warfare contributed to the success of that mission. That mission was a unified effort by a diverse group of people who came together and triumphed over a common enemy. Killing bin Laden was the epitome of what a free nation, guided by sound principles, can accomplish when backed into a corner. No other group of people has blindly thrown itself into the vortex of war like the SOF community in this war against Islamic extremism. We’ve been given an opportunity to serve in a tremendous capacity and that is how it should be viewed. When you need to leave the service, just leave. Ask for nothing, be humble, be proud, be free and love every minute of your life knowing you offered a sacrifice on the alter of freedom and God let you continue on the earth. Mark, the men who stood next to you should have been everything you needed. Now we weep from your betrayal and we pray for your soul.

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Author:	Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:43 am ]
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Who wouldn't want to be known for killing UBL? I'm sure all that stuff is water under the bridge as far as the Taliban is concerned.

Author:	City of Fools [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:47 am ]
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they both are. The author perhaps more so for revealing any military secrets, etc.

Author:	Douchebag [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:51 am ]
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City of Fools wrote: they both are. The author perhaps more so for revealing any military secrets, etc. All of the articles I've read say the book contains no classified information.

Author:	City of Fools [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:06 am ]
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right, although it's not an assumption. Some high ranking guy said it. I'm sure somebody could find the info, I'm far too lazy.

Author:	Frontman [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:56 am ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Quote: At a time when the country needed something, anything, we killed bin Laden. America won. Good triumphed over evil. Bin Laden was unanimously agreed upon as one of the most evil human beings to ever walk the earth, and his demise was celebrated like the U.S. Hockey team winning the gold in the 1980 winter Olympics. The night the president announced that bin Laden had been killed, America was a nation again — for a day or two. Oh for fuck's sake. I've never served in the military, but this seems a little heavy-handed. What the hell did America "win"? Did the thousands of innocent lives lost on 9/11 automatically rise from the dead? I seem to also recall a large group of Americans react to bin Laden's death with an overwhelming "meh". Most of the scenes we saw on television of people "rejoicing" were drunk kids on a college campus. Seal Team 6 did exactly what they needed to do, and that was shoot the motherfucker. Everyone knew it was going to happen at some point. And let's be honest; it wasn't 24 hours before people were bitching how it got done, how Bin Laden was put to sea, etc. We didn't "win" anything. We got the guy who planned the attacks and had been a pain in the US' neck for decades. If the Taliban and Al-Queda all surrendered upon his death? THEN we would have "won" something. I know when the President announced Bin Laden's death, I was for a few minutes, "America....FUCK YEAH!" and all proud and excited. Then I realized these fucks that followed him tend to hold grudges. Yeah, it was a great day; but it wasn't a huge "celebration" of victory.