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Author: | badrogue17 [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Charlie Trotter |
Dont know if anyone has read the Tribune the last 3 days as theyve given this guy a retrospective as his restaurant is closing this Saturday. Comes off as a fucking douchecake. Yelling at , intimidating, in some cases getting physical with some of his employees. Of course this is pawned off as just being part of the mercurial chef's personality but what the fuck . Dude , you're a fucking chef, thats it. You're not curing fucking cancer at that diner you run, its just food. You managed to package it so a lot of people were willing to pay $200 a plate for a fucking demi glaced poached egg paired with some wine, congrats. Fuck off and die, go read your philosphy books and enjoy your 3rd marriage you cockstain. |
Author: | Guy Fieri [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
I'll never forget when Rick told me about the time he fucked the shit out of Gale right on top of the pastry station before a Saturday night service. Mixed fruit tarts were flying everywhere! Gale's ass was covered with blueberry pandowdy. But the best part was that he used some $5000 an oz. white truffle oil that Charlie had brought back from Alba to lube her up. And I thought things got wild on the line at Tex Wasabi's! Holy Stromboli! |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Guy Fieri wrote: I'll never forget when Rick told me about the time he fucked the shit out of Gale right on top of the pastry station before a Saturday night service. Mixed fruit tarts were flying everywhere! Gale's ass was covered with blueberry pandowdy. But the best part was that he used some $5000 an oz. white truffle oil that Charlie had brought back from Alba to lube her up. And I thought things got wild on the line at Tex Wasabi's! Holy Stromboli! |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
badrogue17 wrote: Of course this is pawned off as just being part of the mercurial chef's personality but what the fuck . Dude , you're a fucking chef, thats it. You're not curing fucking cancer at that diner you run, its just food. You managed to package it so a lot of people were willing to pay $200 a plate for a fucking demi glazed poached egg paired with some wine, congrats. Thank you. The whole asshole chef thing is so tiresome. |
Author: | T-Bone [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Guy Fieri wrote: I'll never forget when Rick told me about the time he fucked the shit out of Gale right on top of the pastry station before a Saturday night service. Mixed fruit tarts were flying everywhere! Gale's ass was covered with blueberry pandowdy. But the best part was that he used some $5000 an oz. white truffle oil that Charlie had brought back from Alba to lube her up. And I thought things got wild on the line at Tex Wasabi's! Holy Stromboli! I almost spit tea all over my keyboard. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
I- *claps hands*- dentical! |
Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Yeah, Trotter really comes across as a grade-A asshole. And he almost seems to relish that persona. |
Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Watch shows like Chopped and Iron Chef. Most of the chefs on the competitions come off like giant douchenozzles. |
Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
They are "artists". |
Author: | Guy Fieri [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
T-Bone wrote: Guy Fieri wrote: I'll never forget when Rick told me about the time he fucked the shit out of Gale right on top of the pastry station before a Saturday night service. Mixed fruit tarts were flying everywhere! Gale's ass was covered with blueberry pandowdy. But the best part was that he used some $5000 an oz. white truffle oil that Charlie had brought back from Alba to lube her up. And I thought things got wild on the line at Tex Wasabi's! Holy Stromboli! I almost spit tea all over my keyboard. Oh yeah! And one thing I forget to mention- and Hank Scorpio should love this- apparently Gale hadn't had time to wax that week. It kinda gives a whole new meaning to the popular industry term "in the weeds." |
Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Holy Stromboli! |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Frank Coztansa wrote: I- *claps hands*- dentical! Frank and I had the same thought. frightened... |
Author: | newper [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
sjboyd0137 wrote: Watch shows like Chopped and Iron Chef. Most of the chefs on the competitions come off like giant douchenozzles. How much of that is being a chef and how much of that is being reality TV though? You see a guy like Graham Elliot on Masterchef and he seems genuinely nice, although that's all packaged for TV, so who knows for sure. |
Author: | bigfan [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: I- *claps hands*- dentical! Frank and I had the same thought. frightened... explains a ton. congrats on that one KI |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/ ... 0770.story Well, happy anniversary. |
Author: | Rod [ Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Curious Hair wrote: http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/chi-charlie-trotter-meltdown-20130829,0,2860770.story Well, happy anniversary. I read about this in the Sun-Times a few days ago. I didn't find it hard to believe that Trotter was a douchebag to those kids. The guy is well known to be an asswipe. But the article said that Trotter is on the board of After School Matters, so I thought it was sort of strange for him to do that. Check out how bloated and weird he looks. If he didn't have the keys to the building I wouldn't believe it was him. There's a video with the article and he seems like he's off his head. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2224 ... m-out.html |
Author: | Don Tiny [ Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Curious Hair wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Of course this is pawned off as just being part of the mercurial chef's personality but what the fuck . Dude , you're a fucking chef, thats it. You're not curing fucking cancer at that diner you run, its just food. You managed to package it so a lot of people were willing to pay $200 a plate for a fucking demi glazed poached egg paired with some wine, congrats. Thank you. The whole asshole chef thing is so tiresome. It is? Fuck, and I was gonna start culinary school next week ..... |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Curious Hair wrote: http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/chi-charlie-trotter-meltdown-20130829,0,2860770.story Well, happy anniversary. I read about this in the Sun-Times a few days ago. I didn't find it hard to believe that Trotter was a douchebag to those kids. The guy is well known to be an asswipe. But the article said that Trotter is on the board of After School Matters, so I thought it was sort of strange for him to do that. Check out how bloated and weird he looks. If he didn't have the keys to the building I wouldn't believe it was him. There's a video with the article and he seems like he's off his head. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2224 ... m-out.html Shocking. Dont know how guys like that manage to get through their life without someone kicking their fucking teeth down their throat. Of course, he'd probably just shit it out , put a nice garnish around it and the fucking foodie taint lickers would pay a hundred bucks to eat it. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
I struggle with the idea that Trotter "brought fine dining to Chicago." So our World-Class City didn't have fine dining until the late '80s? |
Author: | Seacrest [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Curious Hair wrote: I struggle with the idea that Trotter "brought fine dining to Chicago." So our World-Class City didn't have fine dining until the late '80s? You should. Chez Paul preceded him by decades. |
Author: | notbob [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
nice article by neil steinberg... There are two types of chefs. There is what I think of as the “Sarah Stegner Chef,” so named after my first glance of Stegner, in a tall white toque, standing dignified in her kitchen at the Ritz-Carlton, arranging the artisanal cheeses she championed, quiet as beauty, still as a river, entirely focused on those gorgeous orbs of fromage, as if they were land mines she was defusing. And then there’s the “Charlie Trotter Chef” — think of the chefs in Bugs Bunny cartoons, snarling, screaming, flailing, an inflamed, overcooked ego in chef’s whites. Those chefs do well on the Food Network. They become stars. The reality, however. “He’s gone off . . . it’s weird,” said an associate of Trotter’s, who knows him well. On Thursday Trotter had some kind of ugly encounter with a group of high school students participating in After School Matters. Trotter allowed them to use his now shuttered namesake restaurant at 814 W. Armitage as a gallery to display their photographs, but became offended, it was reported, when the instructor supervising the students refused to order them to sweep floors and plunge toilets. Trotter also made inappropriate comments to a female student, suggesting she get a Charlie Trotter tattoo. So has Trotter gone around the bend? “He is . . . a . . . difficult person,” said the associate, who didn’t want to be named so as to not endanger their relationship. “He comes across like, ‘Once you get to know me, I’m a good guy, a funny guy, but everybody hates me, I don’t know why.’” I do, Charlie, so let me explain it to you. People hate egomaniacs. They see the self regard flowing like wine, and naturally want to stop it up. When you closed your restaurant — one year ago; time drags when you’re doing nothing huh? — with maximum drama, it was a curtain clutching death scene worthy of “Tristan und Isolde” complete massive, three-part hagiography in the Tribune. The observation I bit back — why rain on the man’s victory lap? — was: closing your restaurant was self-immolation, tossing your whole staff out of work in a recession and why? New chefs were rising, being lauded in the Chicago scene. Attention was straying from the only chef worthy of attention — Charlie Trotter. If other restaurants are going to be praised, then you were just going to close yours down, take your ball and go home. You said you were going to read philosophy, which made me laugh. I almost sent you the passages of Seneca where he tells us to welcome loss, because someday life will snatch back every single thing it gave to us, and so the smaller deprivations before then are reminders and practice. But I figured it would be lost on you. He took his ball, but wouldn’t go home. There he was, stomping around the auction of his restaurant’s effects, shutting the thing down a third of the way through. A man with any grace wouldn’t even have been in the room. If you’re going to close, then close. And Trotter’s still there, rattling around his empty, shuttered restaurant, terrorizing schoolchildren. It’s a scene from a tragedy. OK, Charlie, you and I are about the same age. And at this point, you’re saying: “If you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich, like I am?” To which I’ll retort, “If you’re so rich, why aren’t you smart?” It’s never too late. You might want to use this embarrassing public spectacle as a wake-up call; if not, there are more down the road. Trust me on that one. If you can control yourself, do it. A little humility might help. I asked your friend: Would you call Charlie a humble man? “No, not humble,” she said. “He knows he’s not a humble person. At the end of his run his perception was, ‘Where did the respect go? I was the one who brought Chicago fine dining, gave it its reputation.’ He kinda started a lot of it and at the end, he felt, ‘What the hell, where did the love go?’” It goes where everything goes, Charlie. Into the Bonfire of Time. Everything ends. It’s a shame you never read that philosophy, because it may have helped you now. “A generation of men is like a generation of leaves,” Homer writes. We have spring, shine greenly for a summer. It feels like forever. Then autumn comes, Charlie, and we wither, even great chefs like you, and fall off the tree or, in your case, jump — there’s a drawback of being rich, you forget that there’s a purpose to work beyond making money. Work is joy, if you’re lucky. You may have forgotten that. But never too late to remember. When Sarah Stegner tired of the Ritz, she quietly re-invented herself and opened the excellent Prairie Grass with husband Rohit Nambiar and partner George Bumbaris. Time to reinvent yourself, too, Charlie, if you can. Grab a spoon, stop talking and start cooking. The respect you seek is waiting for you there. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
I guess when it comes to sloppy drunks, it takes one to know one. |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Something about the culture of the kitchen, whether it's Trotter or Bourdain ( in his younger days) or the most senior line cook at the Chili's in the mall parking lot...probably the pervasiveness (necessity?) of drugs in that environment amplifies the d-bag effect...if you're looking for a shark jump moment in the celebrity chef genre, a contender: Quote: "Don't read what they write about you," Warhol said. "Just measure it in inches." In early June, just weeks after he'd lost the job, the Tribune published a 2,100-word profile of Baltzley. The writer, Pang, wove elements of Baltzley's biography with a minute-by-minute account of his cab ride to a rehab center on the southwest side. Baltzley claims that after the coke binge, his bosses at Tribute had agreed to suspend him if he sought treatment, and reinstate him once he was clean. After he made arrangements to enroll in a 30-day program, Baltzley alleges, they reneged on the deal and fired him. "But I already had a bed," Baltzley told me. "So I was like, 'Fuck it, I'll go anyway.'" Pang sat next to Baltzley in the cab as it made its way to the rehab facility, literally counting down the minutes until Baltzley's life would change. Baltzley was hungover, scared, a nervous wreck. He was sitting in the middle seat, between the writer and Baltzley's new girlfriend, Emily Belden, because "sitting by the door might give him second thoughts about what he's about to do." Belden was quoted about his extensive cocaine use and utter lack of control. His mother recalled realizing he was using drugs after witnessing him collapse. Baltzley's former boss at Tribute spoke of his prodigious talent—a talent that simply wasn't enough to outweigh his destructive tendencies. Baltzley emerged as a lost soul, completely enslaved by vice. The Tribune article ends as Baltzley stands outside the rehab center, taking one last drag on a cigarette before walking through the doors. Two days later, with no reporter watching, he walked back out. A few months after the article ran, Baltzley was approached by ICM Partners, a talent agency with offices in New York, London, and LA. "They'd read the Tribune interview," Baltzley says, "and told me if I wrote a proposal, they could sell my book." I ask if Baltzley had any reservations about writing a memoir at the age of 26, or about sharing the sordid details of his life. "None," he says. http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/ch ... id=9933952 |
Author: | Seacrest [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Charlie Trotter |
Curious Hair wrote: I guess when it comes to sloppy drunks, it takes one to know one. I watched the video on the Trib website of Charlie. He looks like mental health is starting to become an issue. |
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