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 Post subject: Drew Petersen jurors
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:00 pm 
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You're not allowed to convict people of murder because you think it sucks that they can't find his fourth wife's body, think he's a total douche or saw a Lifetime movie about him.

Not one of you had a doubt in your mind based on hearsay evidence? I, for one, would hope 12 people wouldn't convict me of something based on stuff people say they heard....maybe.

He probably did it, btw. But the prosecution clearly didn't eliminate all doubt of his guilt.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
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I was gonna say...this isn't right.

Like I said, he obviously did it but hopefully this doesn't set some kind of precedent.

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I still don't think he did it.


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I thought this would be for asking the judge to define "unanimously".


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I thought this would be for asking the judge to define "unanimously".



That too...

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I understand and respect your thoughts but I'm as happy as hell this a-hole is going away.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
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Agreed on the sentiment of the thread

Here's at least SOME evidence.



There was damning testimony not based on hearsay.

A former co-worker of Peterson's, Jeff Pachter, testified that Peterson offered him $25,000 to hire a hit man to kill Savio, though he never followed through. After Savio was found dead, Peterson told him, "That favor I asked you - I don't need it anymore."

Prosecutors had to establish the most basic fact for a murder trial: that there was actually a murder.

Pathologists testified for the defense that Savio's wounds indicated an accident. But equally well-respected pathologists for the state said it was impossible for a single fall to cause both the wound on the back of her head and bruises on the front of her body.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
I thought this would be for asking the judge to define "unanimously".

Me too

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I understand and respect your thoughts but I'm as happy as hell this a-hole is going away.



amen sir.

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I understand and respect your thoughts but I'm as happy as hell this a-hole is going away.



That's just it, James. I wish they would have convicted him based on actual evidence...

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Everyone should be happy that a white man can be convicted on jury bias, not just minorities.


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Everyone should be happy that a white man can be convicted on jury bias, not just minorities.

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That's fucking ignorant. Why should anybody be happy about that? Nobody should be convicted on jury bias.

Tell the prosecution to put together a better case.

Not surprisingly, Big Chicagoan turns it into a race thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
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Agreed on the sentiment of the thread

Here's at least SOME evidence.



There was damning testimony not based on hearsay.

A former co-worker of Peterson's, Jeff Pachter, testified that Peterson offered him $25,000 to hire a hit man to kill Savio, though he never followed through. After Savio was found dead, Peterson told him, "That favor I asked you - I don't need it anymore."

Prosecutors had to establish the most basic fact for a murder trial: that there was actually a murder.

Pathologists testified for the defense that Savio's wounds indicated an accident. But equally well-respected pathologists for the state said it was impossible for a single fall to cause both the wound on the back of her head and bruises on the front of her body.

I agree with this point, but one could still state that it is hearsay as I don't believe they had it on a government run tape device.


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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
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This is the evidence: Major back of the head bruising and contusions on the front of her body does not sound like an accident unless she fell into the tub from a airplane.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
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This is the evidence: Major back of the head bruising and contusions on the front of her body does not sound like an accident unless she fell into the tub from a airplane.

Jimmy, she had blond roots. It was possible.


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jimmypasta wrote:
This is the evidence: Major back of the head bruising and contusions on the front of her body does not sound like an accident unless she fell into the tub from a airplane.

Jimmy, she had blond roots. It was possible.


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Agreed on the sentiment of the thread

Here's at least SOME evidence.



There was damning testimony not based on hearsay.

A former co-worker of Peterson's, Jeff Pachter, testified that Peterson offered him $25,000 to hire a hit man to kill Savio, though he never followed through. After Savio was found dead, Peterson told him, "That favor I asked you - I don't need it anymore."

Prosecutors had to establish the most basic fact for a murder trial: that there was actually a murder.

Pathologists testified for the defense that Savio's wounds indicated an accident. But equally well-respected pathologists for the state said it was impossible for a single fall to cause both the wound on the back of her head and bruises on the front of her body.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Everyone should be happy that a white man can be convicted on jury bias, not just minorities.

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That's fucking ignorant. Why should anybody be happy about that? Nobody should be convicted on jury bias.

Tell the prosecution to put together a better case.

Not surprisingly, Big Chicagoan turns it into a race thing.


Not surprisingly, OKC can't take a joke and bitches and moans about the bias' and racists of the world. Waaaaa. Waaaaa. Quit being such a baby, and lighten up.


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beni hanna wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
This is the evidence: Major back of the head bruising and contusions on the front of her body does not sound like an accident unless she fell into the tub from a airplane.

Jimmy, she had blond roots. It was possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
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I get KI's point, but I'm tired of high profile murderers, or other offenders, getting off because of a great attorney. If you'll pardon the expression. I hope he's in general population now. A police that kills women should last a couple seconds after Sandusky. If he was available to the crowd.

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Hearsay has to be used in context and appropriately. This is no different than a eye witness. Some are better than others. To be fair to defendants, we should eliminate eye witnesses too if we want to be more judicious in making sure we don't incarcerate people wrongly.

I had a whole bunch of stuff written and I think I will let Aggravated Sox Fan Bob and others give us a true lesson what this hearsay thing means. As a defendant I can see this making some nervous. As a dead or potentially dead victim I can see this providing some solace.


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jimmypasta wrote:
I understand and respect your thoughts but I'm as happy as hell this a-hole is going away.



That's just it, James. I wish they would have convicted him based on actual evidence...





I understand what you are saying but I would like to see the phrase "reasonable doubt" be replaced with common sense..not every crime has a high def videotape of the actual crime..this guy is as guilty as they come.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
I understand and respect your thoughts but I'm as happy as hell this a-hole is going away.



That's just it, James. I wish they would have convicted him based on actual evidence...





I understand what you are saying but I would like to see the phrase "reasonable doubt" be replaced with common sense..not every crime has a high def videotape of the actual crime..this guy is as guilty as they come.

No way 12 jurors will have the same idea of common sense.


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Do you believe that hillbilly with the big tits in Florida killed her baby?...I don't see how anyone could NOT see that..I would be in favor of professional jurors..there are just too many stupid people in this country, and all it takes is one of 12 to not have common sense.

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Do you believe that hillbilly with the big tits in Florida killed her baby?...I don't see how anyone could NOT see that..I would be in favor of professional jurors..there are just too many stupid people in this country, and all it takes is one of 12 to not have common sense.


Why do you want to take away our freedoms comrade?

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312player wrote:
Do you believe that hillbilly with the big tits in Florida killed her baby?...I don't see how anyone could NOT see that..I would be in favor of professional jurors..there are just too many stupid people in this country, and all it takes is one of 12 to not have common sense.


Why do you want to take away our freedoms comrade?

I've changed my mind. I'm voting 312player poster of the year.

Sorry SHARK.

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