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Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferson
Quotation: "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

Variations: None known.

Sources checked:
Papers of Thomas Jefferson: Digital Edition
Thomas Jefferson retirement papers
Thomas Jefferson: Papers and Biographies collections in Hathi Trust Digital Library

Other attributions: None known.

Earliest appearance in print: undetermined

Comments: This quotation has not been found in Thomas Jefferson's papers. It has been suggested that it is a paraphrase of Jefferson's statement in the Declaration of Independence, "...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...," although such a paraphrase would seem to be taking some radical liberties with the original version. The quotation bears a much closer resemblance to Martin Luther King, Jr.'s comment in his famous letter from Birmingham Jail: "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."


Quotation: "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Variations: None known.

Sources consulted: Searching on the phrase "democracy will cease to exist" and "willing to work"
Monticello website
Ford's Works of Thomas Jefferson
L&B (CD-ROM version)
UVA EText Jefferson Digital Archive: Jeffersonian Cyclopedia, Thomas Jefferson on Politics and Government, Texts by or to Thomas Jefferson from the Modern English Collection
Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
Quotable Jefferson (searching in the index under "democracy" and "work")

Earliest known appearance in print: 1986[1][2]

Earliest known appearance in print, attributed to Jefferson: See above.

Other attributions: None known.

Status: This exact quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson. It bears a very vague resemblance to Jefferson's comment in a prospectus for his translation of Destutt de Tracy's Treatise on Political Economy: "To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, -€˜the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it.'"


Pay attention fellas.
Author:  spmack [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Yeah, and he didn't bang all of his slaves.....
Author:  cpguy [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
This is way to erudite for this board.

Please refrain.

Thank you and have a nice day.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
spmack wrote:
Yeah, and he didn't bang all of his slaves.....


:lol:
Author:  Mr. Hernandez [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Thats why the only Jefferson i attribute quotes to is George
Author:  stoneroses86 [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
My favorite quotation from Thomas Jefferson is: "They may be the eggmen, but I am the walrus. Coo coo ca choo."
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Isnt that in 312's sig?
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Isnt that in 312's sig?


I don't know. Just like I'm not sure if the other one is in Scorehead's sig.
Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Weezie - is our son Lionel still with that zebra Willis girl?
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:19 am ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Isnt that in 312's sig?

Jorr wrote:
CSFMB is a dangerous place for guys who are full of shit.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
FavreFan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Isnt that in 312's sig?

Jorr wrote:
CSFMB is a dangerous place for guys who are full of shit.


That actually was a Thomas Jefferson quote.

What a strange coincidence.
Author:  spanky [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
I never met anyone that quotes Thomas Jefferson. You guys must hang with a pretty fast crowd.
Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:24 am ]
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Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Ain't no fun if the homies can't have none.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:27 am ]
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Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Cubs suck. Theo is just like John Adams. All shallow promises.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:32 am ]
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Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Fuck those fuckin' fans who come out here and say they're America fans that are supposed to be behind you rippin' every fuckin' thing you do. I'll tell you one fuckin' thing, I hope we get fuckin' Independent than shit, just to stuff it up them 3,000 fuckin' Torys that show up every fuckin' day, because if they're the real America fuckin' fans, they can kiss my fuckin' ass right downtown and PRINT IT.
Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:35 am ]
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spanky wrote:
I never met anyone that quotes Thomas Jefferson. You guys must hang with a pretty fast crowd.


You might like him, he was a drinker.
Author:  beni hanna [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:11 am ]
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News you can use fellas. May I inquire what spurned this threadformation?
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Thomas Jefferson after New York City was taken wrote:
The British are what we thought they were; they're what we thought they were. We fought with them in the French and Indian War — who the hell takes a war with France like it's bullshit, bullshit!? We fought with them in the war — everybody fought — the British are who we thought they were! And that's why we took the damn battlefield. Now if you want to crown King George, then crown his ass! But they are who we thought they were, and we let 'em off the hook!
Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:33 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Quotation: "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

- Doug Plank
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:46 am ]
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Yeah, I hate those guys who use Thomas Jefferson quotes in their signatures
Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:47 am ]
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hahhahahaha! Dork!
Author:  Phil McCracken [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:06 pm ]
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Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Last time I saw Tugboat... Typhoon... Buffoon, whatever he is, run that fast is when they opened up a lunch line at the free buffet.
Author:  Colonel Angus [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Krazy Ivan wrote:
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Once you go black you never go back.


Damn you, Ivan. Great minds think alike. :lol:
Author:  Makaveli [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Krazy Ivan wrote:
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.


The darker the flesh, the deeper the roots...
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Eaglo Jeff wrote:
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Gentlemen, start your engines!
Author:  Frontman [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
My favorite is:

"When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, looks you crooked in the eye, and asks you if you paid your dues; you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Thomas Jefferson always says at a time like that: "Have you paid your dues, Thomas? Yessir, the check is in the mail.""
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Frontman wrote:
My favorite is:

"When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, looks you crooked in the eye, and asks you if you paid your dues; you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Thomas Jefferson always says at a time like that: "Have you paid your dues, Thomas? Yessir, the check is in the mail.""

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
MY GUY!!!!!
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: People who wrongly attribute "quotes" to Thomas Jefferso
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Legislators....we legislate any settling of these colonies, we DAAMN good too But ya cant be like royalty in the old country, gotta be handy with the musket, nahmeen?....earn your keep.....LEGISLATORS!!!!!!!! Mount up
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