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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Nobel Peace Price |
I thought it was shit when they gave it to George Ryan .... I had no fucking clue why they gave it to Obama (the article does seem to indicate the reason though: ... for winning the 2008 election and not being George Bush.), but now The Eurozone? Really?!? http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/iainmartin1/100184804/eu-winning-nobel-peace-prize-is-beyond-parody-like-knighting-fred-goodwin-in-the-middle-of-a-mad-boom/ ----------------------------- Has the committee which runs the Nobel Peace Prize been infiltrated by satirists or opponents keen on discrediting the organisation? Norwegian radio reports this morning, carried by Reuters, suggested that the European Union is to be awarded the prize for supposedly keeping the peace in Europe for the last sixty years. Was this a Nordic spoof? Apparently not. It is only a few years since President Obama was ludicrously awarded the Nobel peace prize for winning the 2008 election and not being George Bush. Since then Mr Obama has continued the war in Afghanistan, stepped up drone attacks and got America involved in Libya's bloody revolution, suggesting that it is better to hand out baubles after someone has finished their job rather than when they are just getting started or are half way through. Incidentally, the same stricture should have applied to bankers honoured by New Labour when they were still running banks which later blew up. Giving the EU a peace prize is at best premature, like knighting Sir Fred Goodwin in the middle of the mad boom. We have no idea how the experiment to create an anti-democratic federation will end. Hopefully the answer is very peacefully, but when Greek protesters are wearing Nazi uniforms, and Spanish youth unemployment is running at 50 per cent, a look at history suggests there is always the possibility of a bumpy landing. Daftest of all is the notion that the EU itself has kept the peace. It was the Allies led by the Americans, the Russians and the British who defeated and disarmed the Germans in 1945. The German people then underwent the most extraordinary reckoning, transforming their country into an essentially pacifist society. The EU had very little to do with it. Throughout that period it was Nato, led by the Americans and British, which kept the peace in Western Europe. The American taxpayer picked up most of the resulting tab, and the British paid a significant part of the bill too. Under this defence umbrella, the federalists who wanted to reconstruct the notion of Carolingian Empire which dominated 9th century Europe, created what we have come to know and love as the EU. Of course there are advantages in what they constructed – the single market and easier travel, making the South of France and Tuscany more accessible. But they also built an appallingly designed single currency, a horlicks of an agricultural policy and rapacious bureaucracy determined to stifle the nation state in the name of utopian, unachievable continent-wide homogeneity. And at every turn those driving it looked for ways to outwit the democratic will. It is said that those in charge of the Nobel Peace Prize have made their latest award to distract attention from the eurozone crisis, which only adds a further surreal twist. The last year or so in Europe has been marked by demonstrations and extensive European rioting. There are words one can use to describe what is going on, but "peaceful" isn't one of them. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
At first blush I thought they gave it to Mike Eruzione and I was like, wtf it was a big goal but not that big. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
z no c |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
Congrats strange government union. Way to keep things going smoothly throughout the continent. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
They should give it to Brian Hanley for not being on the air today. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
meanwhile they are looking to cut out just about any member at the slightest hint of financial troubles |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
The Nobel Peace has become has become very expensive. I accept this nomination. Our children will never be able to afford one. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
Douchebag wrote: The Nobel Peace has become has become very expensive. I accept this nomination. Our children will never be able to afford one. I will take it for one penny more than douchebag is offering. |
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| Author: | beni hanna [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
good dolphin wrote: meanwhile they are looking to cut out just about any member at the slightest hint of financial troubles Probably lack of foresight to include some of these countries in the first place. I think I understand the reasoning in bringing some of the the small fries in, but they had to have some expectation this would be the ultimate outcome. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
beni hanna wrote: good dolphin wrote: meanwhile they are looking to cut out just about any member at the slightest hint of financial troubles Probably lack of foresight to include some of these countries in the first place. I think I understand the reasoning in bringing some of the the small fries in, but they had to have some expectation this would be the ultimate outcome. Some countries, such as Italy and Greece, begged and literally mortgaged their futures to get in. Greece made a deal with the devil (er, Goldman Sachs) to get financing, and then bitched when the bill came due a decade later. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Nobel Peace Price |
they'll probably go to war over who gets to keep the prize. |
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