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Author:  conns7901 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Chicago Aldermen

Aldermen balk at IG’s request for council employees’ time sheets

BY FRAN SPIELMAN

Chicago aldermen are accusing their handpicked inspector general of overstepping his limited authority — and going fishing — with a demand for time sheets for all full- and part-time City Council employees dating back to November 2010.

The surprise request from Legislative Inspector General Faisal Khan — whose annual budget was recently increased to $354,000 — stunned and infuriated aldermen, some of whom are talking about clipping Khan’s wings or eliminating his position altogether.

Khan could not be reached for comment to explain the time-sheet request he made last month. Over the years, aldermen and committee chairmen have been accused of padding their payrolls with relatives, friends and political allies and of the hiring equivalent of “wife-swapping”: placing each other’s spouses and relatives on each other’s payrolls.

Some aldermen are so incensed about the time-sheet request that they’ve confronted Khan and demanded an explanation. Others are going through the motions to comply with his request. Even more have chosen to ignore it and dare Khan to use his subpoena powers if he thinks he has a case to justify a subpoena.

The ordinance that created the legislative inspector general does not empower Khan to conduct audits.

In order to investigate Chicago aldermen, their staff members and committee employees, Khan needs a signed and sworn complaint and prior authorization from the city’s Board of Ethics or sign-off from the City Council’s Rules Committee to investigate an anonymous tip.

“This is beyond the scope of his authority. He’s overstepping his bounds. He’s going too far. This is not what he was placed there to do,” said Ald. Roderick Sawyer (6th), an attorney. “A lot of aldermen are upset or at least confused about what he’s trying to do. We don’t think this is based on any verified complaint. This is just him fishing or making busy work. If he has an investigation, tell us what it is. If not, collect your check and get out of the way. I don’t see that includes asking for time sheets unless he has a verified complaint.”

Sawyer noted that a $94,000 amendment to Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s 2013 budget increased Khan’s annual budget to $354,000 a year. That’s $294,000 a year more than originally anticipated.

In addition, Emanuel has proposed another round of ethics reforms that would expand Khan’s authority.

He would be empowered to settle cases to speed investigations, initiate his own written complaints and accept “written anonymous complaints” against aldermen and City Council employees.

“The aldermen I talked to don’t want to give him any more power. In fact, aldermen are talking about curtailing his power — possibly by eliminating his position,” Sawyer said.

Another alderman, who asked to remain anonymous, branded Khan a “paper tiger who thinks he has teeth. . . . If the ordinance that empowers him doesn’t give him the right to do something, what’s he doing? It’ll come to loggerheads at some point.” Two years ago, aldermen balked at then-Mayor Richard M. Daley’s plan to give the city’s Inspector General Joe Ferguson to the power to investigate aldermen.

Instead, they created their own inspector general and waited eighteen months — until after the February 2011 aldermanic election — to fill the job.

A year ago, they settled on Khan, a former New York City inspector general, and gave him a $60,000-a-year budget, no staff and investigative ground rules that pretty well tied his hands.

In order to investigate Chicago aldermen, their staff members and committee employees, Khan either needs either a signed and sworn complaint and prior authorization from a Board of Ethics with a do-nothing track record or a sign-off from the City Council’s Rules Committee to investigate an anonymous tip.

The ordinance also includes a two-year statute of limitations, a requirement that investigative subjects be notified within seven days and allows the Board of Ethics to serve as judge and jury after the fact.

At the time, Ald. Joe Moore (49th) warned that Khan would “end up being window dressing” no matter how much “integrity and independence” he may have.

Since then, the legislative IG has seen his annual budget rise to $260,000 for this year and $354,000 for 2013.

Author:  spanky [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?


I would guess that his thoughts are that Chicago Alderman are douchebags.

Author:  conns7901 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?


3 actually.

Author:  conns7901 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

Big Chicagoan wrote:
spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?


I would guess that his thoughts are that Chicago Alderman are douchebags.


Correct. I also view that they should be cut in half and waste too much money. This is yet another example.

Author:  spanky [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

conns7901 wrote:
spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?


3 actually.

Ok. :lol: I think that still supports what I'm saying.

But still, no commentary ever. Just random copy/pastes that usually have to do with: politics, education, religion or some other random "controversial" topic. But you never actually formulate a thought. Usually they are news stories most of us have already seen somewhere else.....so why the need to regurgitate here without discussion?

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:39 pm ]
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He's kinda pulling a Linda Richman and saying, "Here....discuss." It's not really unlike what SHARK does.

Author:  spanky [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
He's kinda pulling a Linda Richman and saying, "Here....discuss." It's not really unlike what SHARK does.

In a way it's similar....SHARK does add his own "commentary" but he just ends up re-stating the same thing. That takes more effort than what conns is doing.

I'd equate what conns does to what the political mults do. Just copy paste things from their own agenda, but no real discussion.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

Yes, the political mults. That is a better comparison.

Author:  spanky [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Yes, the political mults. That is a better comparison.

That's it. We've solved it. conns is FreeDumb. #truth #bettermulthuntersthancampseverwas

Author:  W_Z [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spanky wrote:
In a way it's similar....SHARK does add his own "commentary" but he just ends up re-stating the same thing. That takes more effort than what conns is doing.


:lol: Spanky, the Kool-Aid OHH YEAAHH!!! resembling conns is trying to say that the Chicago City Council consists of 50 aldermen, all of which are members of a municipal assembly in jurisdictions founded on English Law. The English, that live on the island of Great Britain, are still ruled by the Helen Mirren looking Queen--who coincidentally was played by Helen Mirren in the 2006 film directed by the Jim Schwartz looking Stephen Frears.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

conns7901 wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?
I would guess that his thoughts are that Chicago Alderman are douchebags.
Correct. I also view that they should be cut in half and waste too much money. This is yet another example.
I'm all for trimming the fat from the Gov't on both local and federal levels, but I don't think chopping off limbs of aldermen is going to do a lot of good.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spanky wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
He's kinda pulling a Linda Richman and saying, "Here....discuss." It's not really unlike what SHARK does.

In a way it's similar....SHARK does add his own "commentary" but he just ends up re-stating the same thing. That takes more effort than what conns is doing.

I'd equate what conns does to what the political mults do. Just copy paste things from their own agenda, but no real discussion.

He's much better than the political mults. If asked his opinion, he'll give it. But he doesn't come off as trolling ever. Like Kid said, he posts an article he probably believes will spur some debate. I dont see the problem with that.

Author:  spmack [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spanky wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Yes, the political mults. That is a better comparison.

That's it. We've solved it. conns is FreeDumb. #truth #bettermulthuntersthancampseverwas

:D

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

Yes. Spanky and I are friends.

Author:  Telegram Sam [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

Frank Coztansa wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?
I would guess that his thoughts are that Chicago Alderman are douchebags.
Correct. I also view that they should be cut in half and waste too much money. This is yet another example.
I'm all for trimming the fat from the Gov't on both local and federal levels, but I don't think chopping off limbs of aldermen is going to do a lot of good.

I don't want to speak for conns, but I believe he's advocating cutting them in half, as in right down the middle. Not hacking off appendages all willly-nilly. Top hat to tails, if you will. So who's right, conns, me or Frank?

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Yes. Spanky and I are friends.

An early festivus miracle!

Author:  spmack [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Yes. Spanky and I are friends.

Image

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spmack wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Yes. Spanky and I are friends.

Image

:shock: I can fly!!!

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out. I don't like feuding with people unless is Tall Midget. He's the real enemic.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?


What if you post just a link you get people complaining about that.

Then if you post information with out stuff like that you get people who complain you are making stuff up or getting it wrong. You people are nothing but complainers.

Author:  Seacrest [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

Big Chicagoan wrote:
spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?


I would guess that his thoughts are that Chicago Alderman are douchebags.



That's what I thought too.

Author:  a retard [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

chaspoppcap wrote:
spanky wrote:
Do you ever have your own thoughts on all of these articles you post? You rarely, if ever, post your own thoughts on these. You just copy/paste and then..................

It's gotta be, what, 4-5 articles in the past hour alone?


What if you post just a link you get people complaining about that.

Then if you post information with out stuff like that you get people who complain you are making stuff up or getting it wrong. You people are nothing but complainers.


I find it funny when people complain about complainers.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out. I don't like feuding with people unless is Tall Midget. He's the real enemic.

Yeah, TM sucks.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

FavreFan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out. I don't like feuding with people unless is Tall Midget. He's the real enemic.

Yeah, TM sucks.

I'm not joking.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out. I don't like feuding with people unless is Tall Midget. He's the real enemic.

Yeah, TM sucks.

I'm not joking.

Me either. I've never been a fan.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out. I don't like feuding with people unless is Tall Midget. He's the real enemic.

Yeah, TM sucks.

I'm not joking.

Hard not to argue.

Author:  spmack [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out.

Come on, man. I wanted you all to stay beefin.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

spmack wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out.

Come on, man. I wanted you all to stay beefin.

Of course you did.

Why don't you entertain me on here for a change?

Author:  spmack [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Aldermen

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
spmack wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I PM'ed him and decided I wanted to hug it out.

Come on, man. I wanted you all to stay beefin.

Of course you did.

Why don't you entertain me on here for a change?

The "Darkside trolling me like I'm IMU" isn't working?

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