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Author:  jimmypasta [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:36 am ]
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OMG! I just got off the phone with a guy who had an accent so thick,I'm not sure if he understood what the request was or he told me he enjoys washing his dog. This is crazy. If you want to offshore,what about England?

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:39 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
OMG! I just got off the phone with a guy who had an accent so thick,I'm not sure if he understood what the request was or he told me he enjoys washing his dog. This is crazy. If you want to offshore,what about England?



Have you ever watched a Guy Ritchie movie? Some of those brits are harder to understand than Indian folk.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:41 am ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
OMG! I just got off the phone with a guy who had an accent so thick,I'm not sure if he understood what the request was or he told me he enjoys washing his dog. This is crazy. If you want to offshore,what about England?



Have you ever watched a Guy Ritchie movie? Some of those brits are harder to understand than Indian folk.


Yeah,your right but at least it might be better than what I listen to on a daily basis.

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:43 am ]
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All I ask is that the person has a good enough grasp of the english language to help me with my issue. They don't have to speak with an American accent or tell me their name is "Robert". Just understand me and speak clearly enoughto have a conversation. I've only had a few instances where this wasn't the case and I make sure to inform someone higher up about it.

Author:  Brick [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:45 am ]
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"Can I talk to your manager?"
"Can I talk to your manager?"
"Can I talk to your manager?"

You'll be talking to someone with a Kentucky accent in no time.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:05 pm ]
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Oh, you are just noticing my laid back American accent. Let's take a relaxed attitude towards work and watch the baseball match. The Nye Mets are my favorite squadron.

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Author:  Chus [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:41 pm ]
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Author:  chaspoppcap [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:28 pm ]
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Thank your politicians that allowed them to do it. There used to be a law in Illinois that i you provided phone service you had to have the help desk located in Illinois. Not no more thanks to the Democrats,friends of the working man my ass.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:26 pm ]
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More disturbing than the Indian accents, is the condescending way the scripts are written. I guess there are some people so dumb out there that it's required, but there has to be a way for me to get the guy to skip ahead to Line 36. I really don't want to sit there and answer questions and/or commands like, "Is your computer plugged in and turned on?", "Please turn off the machine and let it reboot.", and "Please close the browser and open a new one."

My girlfriend ran a help desk for a very large company (before they outsourced it to India) and she has what I call a "help desk attitude". She is now a technical trainer who is very knowledgeable about tons of different software. Her first assumption when I ask for her help is that I am some kind of fucking moron. It used to end up in a fight or with her refusing to help me, but I've learned to grit my teeth and close the browser again for the tenth time.

Which reminds me of something else. I get a lot of resumes where people have down MS Office under "Skills". I would no sooner put Office on my resume than I would put that I have the ability to answer a telephone or sign my name. Am I wrong about that? Should I update my resume? I am certainly more proficient with the Office suite than many of these young knuckleheads I have seen with it listed on their resumes.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:52 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
More disturbing than the Indian accents, is the condescending way the scripts are written. I guess there are some people so dumb out there that it's required, but there has to be a way for me to get the guy to skip ahead to Line 36. I really don't want to sit there and answer questions and/or commands like, "Is your computer plugged in and turned on?", "Please turn off the machine and let it reboot.", and "Please close the browser and open a new one."

My girlfriend ran a help desk for a very large company (before they outsourced it to India) and she has what I call a "help desk attitude". She is now a technical trainer who is very knowledgeable about tons of different software. Her first assumption when I ask for her help is that I am some kind of fucking moron. It used to end up in a fight or with her refusing to help me, but I've learned to grit my teeth and close the browser again for the tenth time.

Which reminds me of something else. I get a lot of resumes where people have down MS Office under "Skills". I would no sooner put Office on my resume than I would put that I have the ability to answer a telephone or sign my name. Am I wrong about that? Should I update my resume? I am certainly more proficient with the Office suite than many of these young knuckleheads I have seen with it listed on their resumes.

They are taught to follow the script no matter what,if they do not and the call is monitored they can be disciplined for it.

Author:  Darkside [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:56 pm ]
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Joe most people are morons. You know how many no heat calls I been on that were clogged filters or furnace switches turned off or breakers? Just ridiculous.

Author:  Bucky Chris [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:58 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
More disturbing than the Indian accents, is the condescending way the scripts are written. I guess there are some people so dumb out there that it's required, but there has to be a way for me to get the guy to skip ahead to Line 36. I really don't want to sit there and answer questions and/or commands like, "Is your computer plugged in and turned on?", "Please turn off the machine and let it reboot.", and "Please close the browser and open a new one."

My girlfriend ran a help desk for a very large company (before they outsourced it to India) and she has what I call a "help desk attitude". She is now a technical trainer who is very knowledgeable about tons of different software. Her first assumption when I ask for her help is that I am some kind of fucking moron. It used to end up in a fight or with her refusing to help me, but I've learned to grit my teeth and close the browser again for the tenth time.

Which reminds me of something else. I get a lot of resumes where people have down MS Office under "Skills". I would no sooner put Office on my resume than I would put that I have the ability to answer a telephone or sign my name. Am I wrong about that? Should I update my resume? I am certainly more proficient with the Office suite than many of these young knuckleheads I have seen with it listed on their resumes.


You're probably right on the Office thing. I'm sure that was somewhat important awhile back, but not anymore. That said, there is a difference in someone who can use Excel and someone who can really really use Excel. That can matter. Not that it can't be learned/taught.

Author:  Brick [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:59 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
More disturbing than the Indian accents, is the condescending way the scripts are written. I guess there are some people so dumb out there that it's required, but there has to be a way for me to get the guy to skip ahead to Line 36. I really don't want to sit there and answer questions and/or commands like, "Is your computer plugged in and turned on?", "Please turn off the machine and let it reboot.", and "Please close the browser and open a new one."
It annoys me too, but you would be shocked how many people are that dumb. You were obviously lucky enough to never work helpdesk. You normally have at least one thing a day happen that people think you made up, such as the factory calling to say that the system is "broken" and you go out there and discover that the router was unplugged so they could plug in a fan on a hot day.

Author:  Bucky Chris [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:05 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
More disturbing than the Indian accents, is the condescending way the scripts are written. I guess there are some people so dumb out there that it's required, but there has to be a way for me to get the guy to skip ahead to Line 36. I really don't want to sit there and answer questions and/or commands like, "Is your computer plugged in and turned on?", "Please turn off the machine and let it reboot.", and "Please close the browser and open a new one."
It annoys me too, but you would be shocked how many people are that dumb. You were obviously lucky enough to never work helpdesk. You normally have at least one thing a day happen that people think you made up, such as the factory calling to say that the system is "broken" and you go out there and discover that the router was unplugged so they could plug in a fan on a hot day.


I don't think I have the temperament for help desk and don't know how people can do it. I'm default tech support for my family, and trying to help them sometimes makes me want to bang my head on a table. Drove over to my mom's because she didn't realize the TV was plugged in, and another time because she was using the DVD remote and couldn't get the cable to change channels.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:08 pm ]
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chaspoppcap wrote:
Thank your politicians that allowed them to do it. There used to be a law in Illinois that i you provided phone service you had to have the help desk located in Illinois. Not no more thanks to the Democrats,friends of the working man my ass.
So as a conservative you believe the government should dictate hiring policies?

Author:  Darkside [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:11 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Thank your politicians that allowed them to do it. There used to be a law in Illinois that i you provided phone service you had to have the help desk located in Illinois. Not no more thanks to the Democrats,friends of the working man my ass.
So as a conservative you believe the government should dictate hiring policies?

Uh oh!
PLOT HOLES!

Author:  Brick [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:14 pm ]
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Bucky Chris wrote:
I don't think I have the temperament for help desk and don't know how people can do it. I'm default tech support for my family, and trying to help them sometimes makes me want to bang my head on a table. Drove over to my mom's because she didn't realize the TV was plugged in, and another time because she was using the DVD remote and couldn't get the cable to change channels.
I was lucky that I was the backup tech support guy, so I avoided constantly doing it.

Eventually, you learn the easy dumb problems are not worth getting upset over. When someone calls at 4pm on a Friday with a problem that takes 3 hours to fix is when you really want to quit.

With that said, I'd never do helpdesk ever again.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:14 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Thank your politicians that allowed them to do it. There used to be a law in Illinois that i you provided phone service you had to have the help desk located in Illinois. Not no more thanks to the Democrats,friends of the working man my ass.
So as a conservative you believe the government should dictate hiring policies?

Uh oh!
PLOT HOLES!


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Author:  Darkside [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:15 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
I don't think I have the temperament for help desk and don't know how people can do it. I'm default tech support for my family, and trying to help them sometimes makes me want to bang my head on a table. Drove over to my mom's because she didn't realize the TV was plugged in, and another time because she was using the DVD remote and couldn't get the cable to change channels.
I was lucky that I was the backup tech support guy, so I avoided constantly doing it.

Eventually, you learn the easy dumb problems are not worth getting upset over. When someone calls at 4pm on a Friday with a problem that takes 3 hours to fix is when you really want to quit.

With that said, I'd never do helpdesk ever again.

Eh, I did it for a long time. It wasn't that bad. 4pm 3 hour problems just mean 2 hours timeannahalf to a guy like me. I'm in.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:16 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Thank your politicians that allowed them to do it. There used to be a law in Illinois that i you provided phone service you had to have the help desk located in Illinois. Not no more thanks to the Democrats,friends of the working man my ass.
So as a conservative you believe the government should dictate hiring policies?


I am a protectionist. I think that companies that take manufacturing and other jobs overseas need to have a nice heavy tariff on them. I am in no way nor ever will be a free trade conservative, I have stated this numerous times.

Author:  Chus [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:18 pm ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Oh, you are just noticing my laid back American accent. Let's take a relaxed attitude towards work and watch the baseball match. The Nye Mets are my favorite squadron.

Image


Homer: Hey Apu, what happened to the statue of the elephant with eight arms?
Apu: Ha Ha. What was I thinking with that?

Author:  Brick [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:27 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Eh, I did it for a long time. It wasn't that bad. 4pm 3 hour problems just mean 2 hours timeannahalf to a guy like me. I'm in.
For me, it meant I was donating time to the company. :lol:

Author:  Rod [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:36 pm ]
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Bucky Chris wrote:
That said, there is a difference in someone who can use Excel and someone who can really really use Excel. That can matter. Not that it can't be learned/taught.


True. I can do what I need to with Excel, but I realize it's capable of a lot more. Stuff like pivot tables.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:59 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Which reminds me of something else. I get a lot of resumes where people have down MS Office under "Skills". I would no sooner put Office on my resume than I would put that I have the ability to answer a telephone or sign my name. Am I wrong about that?

Yes and no. People who list MS Office as a skill because they can adequately use a word processor after having used them since kindergarten should probably have their resumes and possibly selves set on fire. If you actually have proficiency in Microsoft Excel, like, as in knowing what you can do just by starting to fill a cell with an =, that counts for something.

EDIT: beaten to the punch, drat.

Author:  Furious Styles [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:34 pm ]
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Kuldeep masterfully resolved my Comcast issue tonight via online chat.

Author:  Stewie [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:26 am ]
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chaspoppcap wrote:
Thank your politicians that allowed them to do it. There used to be a law in Illinois that i you provided phone service you had to have the help desk located in Illinois. Not no more thanks to the Democrats,friends of the working man my ass.

America: Love it, or leave it to find employment.

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