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Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Brian Urlacher |
Brian Urlacher said Thursday that he doesn't think the Chicago Bears' front office was being genuine when it said that it wanted him to re-sign with the team. Mike and Mike in the Morning Five-time NFL All-Pro LB Brian Urlacher talks about the end of his time in Chicago, why he couldn't reach an agreement with the Bears, his future and more. More Podcasts » The Bears announced Wednesday that they were unable to come to a free-agent deal with Urlacher and were moving on without one of the greatest linebackers in franchise history. Urlacher told "Mike & Mike In The Morning" on ESPN Radio that he tried to stay out of the negotiations, "but it was hard for me to stay out of that, because it got a little personal there at the end, just because I think I have so much passion for the team. I wanted to be a Bear. I wanted to play here and finish my career here, and I think that's what kind of made me mad, too. "The Bears kept saying, 'We want to make Brian a Bear, retire a Bear. Blah, blah, blah.' It was all lip service in my mind. They said that, but they never acted on it. It was like they all had a handbook on how to handle the situation they passed out around there." Urlacher said the Bears asked him to make an offer, and the Chicago Tribune reported that Urlacher's original offer was for two years and $11.5 million. Greatest Bears | Bears blog » "My first offer I knew I was going to have to come down from," Urlacher said. "You always make a first offer that's too high, because you don't want to start where you want to finish." ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter reported that the Bears made a one-year, $2 million offer. Urlacher made a one-year, $3.5 million counteroffer, according to ESPN's Ed Werder, who reported Urlacher's counteroffer included incentives that would have allowed him to make an additional $500,000. "And then they said, 'No, you take this offer, or leave it. Take it or leave it,'" Urlacher said. "It was kind of an ultimatum. Either sign this, or leave. That's the way it was. They never moved off their initial offer." Urlacher said he wasn't sure what to expect, but he wasn't surprised how things played out. "Honestly I had a feeling during the whole offseason that something like this would happen," he said. "I told my agent I said I just don't think they want me back. Lovie (Smith is) gone, new head coach (in Marc Trestman), new GM (Phil Emery just finished his first season), I just feel like they're probably not going to want me back. We kind of had little talks going on, had a little hope going but just never really had a solid feeling that I would go back there." Urlacher, 34, said while $2 million is a lot of money, he didn't want to put his body through the rigors of another season for that amount. "I want to prove I can still play," he said. "I don't know if the Bears think I still can or not, which is fine. More from ESPN.com Brian Urlacher deserved a better exit after a 13-year run in Chicago, but there isn't much time for nostalgia in the NFL, writes Jon Greenberg. Story This was the right time for the Bears to part ways with Brian Urlacher. The only surprising thing was that it took so long, writes Kevin Seifert. Blog • Poll: Can LB still make difference? "I understand I'm older now. I didn't have the best season last year. That's for dang sure. I feel great right now. I didn't have an offseason last year. I didn't get to work out. So I want to prove I can still play a little bit." Urlacher tore the posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee going for an interception against the Minnesota Vikings in the 2011 season finale. He reportedly underwent several procedures that wiped out his offseason conditioning and almost all of training camp. He admitted last year that his knee would never feel the same and he spent part of the regular season getting back in condition. Despite those challenges, however, Urlacher made 68 tackles in 12 games, forcing two fumbles and returning an interception for a touchdown. But he suffered a hamstring injury chasing Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson on Dec. 2 and missed the last four games of the regular season. "The Bears didn't think I could play here anymore, and that's fine," Urlacher said. "But I still feel I can play football, and that's my job. That's what I want to do. If I'm out there not helping my team, I shouldn't be playing. There's no doubt about that. "But I played every game for almost three straight years. I missed the last four last year. But I played every game for three years until the last four last year. So it's not like I've been banged up and missed a ton of games. Just some weird injuries last few years. But I want to play football. That's what I want to do. That's what I love to do, and it's fun for me." Urlacher said he's not sure where he'll play next season, but he is sure he hasn't thought about retiring. "Nope. Not one bit," he said. "I want to play football. I love football. I definitely have a little left in the tank, maybe not a lot, but I have some left. I'd like to get out there and see what exactly I have and if I'm healthy enough to do it." Like most players his age who haven't won a Super Bowl -- the Bears lost to the Indianapolis Colts in Super Bowl XLI -- Urlacher wants to be on a contender. Bears Without Urlacher Brian Urlacher missed 15 games with a wrist injury in 2009 and four games with a hamstring injury in 2012. Here's a look at how the Bears' defense fared with and without him during that stretch, something Chicago now must get used to going forward: On Field Off Field Yds/rush 4.0 4.3 Yds/pass att. 6.6 6.8 Total QBR 39.5 60.1 -- ESPN Stats & Information "I'd like to play for someone who's going to be a contender," he said. "I think we'd all like to do that at this point in our careers if we haven't won the big one yet. "But not saying it has to be someone like that either, because you never know who's going to be good every year, unless it's the Patriots. You don't know who's going to be good. Patriots are always good, but beyond that you never know who's going to have a good season." As far as any possibility Urlacher could wind up returning to the Bears, Urlacher said Emery closed that door. "From what Phil Emery said, they're moving on, and we're moving on," he said. "So they're going to find a new middle linebacker and I'm going to try to find a new place to work. " Bears fans have already expressed to Urlacher where they don't want to see him next. "Just walking around, people are like, 'Don't go to the Vikings. Don't go to the Packers,'" he said. "But they were both pretty good last year. And they both made the playoffs." |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Agreed. Twat. |
Author: | Chus [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Is anybody surprised that he going out like such a bitch? They gave him paper when they didn't have to, and now he and his agent are only two people in the world that think he can still play. |
Author: | Hawg Ass [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
They all end like this these days, kind of sounds like the Favre drama. They go away for a few years, then he will come back and they will retire his number or something like that. |
Author: | Makaveli [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
I agree with Urlacher. I know some fans are happy to see him gone and happy to kick him in the ass because he didn't say what they wanted him to say all the time. Considering they were only $1.5M apart on a 1 year deal if the Bears truly wanted him back they would have negotiated the deference. Even $2M with incentives would have been reasonable. A take it or leave it offer barely above the league veteran minimum does not seem like something a team would do when they want you back. That's their right but they should have been honest about that. |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
When he sees the offers from other teams, he'll understand. Sometimes people have to leave before they "get it". I'll just remember him as a great player. The money stuff doesn't really enter my mind when it comes to football players. Not when teams are allowed to just cut you when they feel like it. They have to get all they can when they can get it. He's just upset now, shit will cool down... |
Author: | Makaveli [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
I don't think Urlacher has said anything that was extreme. He's just given his version of what happened. |
Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Makaveli wrote: I don't think Urlacher has said anything that was extreme. He's just given his version of what happened. They paid him twice when they didnt have to. |
Author: | Chus [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Makaveli wrote: I don't think Urlacher has said anything that was extreme. He's just given his version of what happened. I heard his interview on SiriusXM, and he was whining. They probably should have been more upfront with him, but again, he loses the sympathy when he pulled what he did to get more paper. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
He will be lucky if he gets $2mil guaranteed from anybody else this season. The Bears made an offer, they knew there was no other offer on the table for him, so why would they go up? Urlacher needs to prove himself again. It doesn't take away from the fact that he has had a Hall of Fame career, but he's coming off of 2 major injuries. Full training camp or not, he needs to prove he can play at a high level AND stay in once piece. Nobody is kicking him in the ass based on his play, Nas. They are kicking him in the ass because he continues to stay stupid shit to the press all the time. Despite almost constantly ripping Bears fans, he has been almost universally loved and revered for the vast majority of his time as a Bear. The Bears have other needs and bigger problems than to worry about Urlacher getting a couple extra million bucks. They have moved on, and so should he. |
Author: | Hawg Ass [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
This all sounds all to familiar. |
Author: | Hawg Ass [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Keeping Score wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: This all sounds all to familiar. No it doesn't. Woodson just didn't fit in our plans any longer and both sides mutually parted ways. The Packer Way. #Respect That's why we're better than Bears fans, Hawger. We'd never turn on one of our legends. |
Author: | SHARK [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
A few years ago, I could've sworn Brian Urlacher wanted even money a couple years into his second to last contract with the Bears, and ex-GM Jerry Angelo was stupid enough to give it to him when he didn't need to. |
Author: | Seacrest [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Keeping Score wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: This all sounds all to familiar. No it doesn't. Woodson just didn't fit in our plans any longer and both sides mutually parted ways. The Packer Way. #Respect That's why we're better than Bears fans, Hawger. We'd never turn on one of our legends. There are days I dream of punching you. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
SHARK wrote: A few years ago, I could've sworn Brian Urlacher wanted even money a couple years into his second to last contract with the Bears, and ex-GM Jerry Angelo was stupid enough to give it to him when he didn't need to. I could've sworn I just read that in this very thread.
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Author: | good dolphin [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Marinelli didn't want him in Dallas. It did not even get to the point of negotiation. The Cowboys simply had no interest. That said a lot to me about where the league thinks he is right now. I assume he will sign for something under 2 million that will have incentives that would bring him over 2 million if he gets them so that he can say he got a better deal. During the year, he will have a recurrance of the hamstring problem and probably miss 5+ games. I still think the Bears should have made the deal a little sweeter with incentives and signed him. They are really hurting at the position. I loved Urlacher the football player. I could do without The Impregnator. |
Author: | Scorehead [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
I'll bet that most of the locker room is glad this prick is gone. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Scorehead wrote: I'll bet that most of the locker room is glad this prick is gone. I have never heard a teammate or former coach speak bad about Urlacher. Never. You just hate the way he is off the field, and presume the way he talks to the media is the same way he talks to his teammates. Pretty stupid assumption on your part.
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Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Scorehead wrote: I'll bet that most of the locker room is glad this prick is gone. Nice post A year ago that would have read "The whole locker room is glad this prick is gone." Progress |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Basically,he was a big mean bald white guy. I relate to that. How do you want your LB's to act? |
Author: | Scorehead [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Scorehead wrote: I'll bet that most of the locker room is glad this prick is gone. I have never heard a teammate or former coach speak bad about Urlacher. Never. You just hate the way he is off the field, and presume the way he talks to the media is the same way he talks to his teammates. Pretty stupid assumption on your part.Professional Athletes generally don't air their dirty laundry & rip fellow team mates. Even guys who are known bad guys never get ripped by team mates. The decision to fire Urlacher wasn't made solely on his declining football skills. If he was beloved in the locker room & a great leader, he would still be on the team. |
Author: | Juiced [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Makaveli wrote: Considering they were only $1.5M apart on a 1 year deal if the Bears truly wanted him back they would have negotiated the deference. . People keep saying, "they are where only 1.5mil apart." NO, they where 3.5MIL apart. They DID NOT WANT HIM BACK. It was time to move on, and they made the right choice. Shea M. was drafted as Urlacher's replacement, no matter what the Bears are blowing up your A$$. |
Author: | sinicalypse [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Favorite Urlacher moment = 2001 season vs the Lions.... after the ball is hiked the football gods aligned the lineplay so a hole opened up the middle for James Stewart of the Lions, however, Urlacher was closing quickly as he was prone to do. James Stewart tried lowering his head and going through Urlacher. There was no Miracle on 54th Street as Urlacher promptly put him on his ass. Then the Fox cameras zoom in on Urlacher who was laughing his ass off that James Fucking Stewart thought he could lower his head and go through him. This is a guy with a barbed wire tattoo; they don't fuck around like that. |
Author: | Scorehead [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Juiced wrote: Makaveli wrote: Considering they were only $1.5M apart on a 1 year deal if the Bears truly wanted him back they would have negotiated the deference. . People keep saying, "they are where only 1.5mil apart." NO, they where 3.5MIL apart. They DID NOT WANT HIM BACK. It was time to move on, and they made the right choice. Shea M. was drafted as Urlacher's replacement, no matter what the Bears are blowing up your A$$. Correct on all counts. I believe that the Bears made the decision to not bring Urlacher back a while back, & Emery probably knew before the season ended that he was gone. Move Shay Mac to LB tomorrow. |
Author: | pittmike [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
You do have to wonder if Emery wanted him there when drafted but simply hid it well? That would be some sweet redemption for a lot of meatball callers. But of course Boers would have know it all along. |
Author: | jackref [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Scorehead wrote: Juiced wrote: Makaveli wrote: Considering they were only $1.5M apart on a 1 year deal if the Bears truly wanted him back they would have negotiated the deference. . People keep saying, "they are where only 1.5mil apart." NO, they where 3.5MIL apart. They DID NOT WANT HIM BACK. It was time to move on, and they made the right choice. Shea M. was drafted as Urlacher's replacement, no matter what the Bears are blowing up your A$$. Correct on all counts. I believe that the Bears made the decision to not bring Urlacher back a while back, & Emery probably knew before the season ended that he was gone. Move Shay Mac to LB tomorrow. Every one keeps saying this, but there are fundamental differences between the 3 LB positions in a 4-3 defense. Shay was drafted as a pass rusher, he certainly isn't going to do that if he "replaces" Urlacher as a MLB in this scheme. |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Right. McClellan isn't a middle backer in a 4-3 defense. |
Author: | pittmike [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
Ok I will play a meatball for a minute. Can an older Briggs play middle in a more traditional 4-3 rather than tampa two? If so, Shay goes outside. |
Author: | jackref [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
pittmike wrote: Ok I will play a meatball for a minute. Can an older Briggs play middle in a more traditional 4-3 rather than tampa two? If so, Shay goes outside. But that doesn't play to his strengths. He can't cover the middle of the field like Urlacher did. Why would they get weaker at two positions instead of one? |
Author: | pittmike [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brian Urlacher |
My only thought there was if the new coach Tucker doesn't have him play like Urlacher did i.e. dropping back so far etc. Side to side and run stuffing I am sure Briggs might be fine. |
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