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Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Gordon Whitenmeyer

Attacking an opposing player with a baseball bat is just a cultural difference that us Americans should work harder to understand.

Add pud to this guys resume next to fiction writer.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

good dolphin wrote:
Attacking an opposing player with a baseball bat is just a cultural difference that us Americans should work harder to understand.

Add pud to this guys resume next to fiction writer.

He did not attack an opposing player

Author:  Bagels [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

i think Gordon is a pretty cool name. you don't come across it too much anymore

Author:  spmack [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:45 am ]
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Gordon is probably his middle name too. He seems like the kind of guy who go by "L. Gordon Whittenmeyer" or something. Douche.

Author:  Killer V [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:45 am ]
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Attacking a cinder block structure with a baseball bat is just a cultural difference that us Americans should work harder to understand.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Attacking an opposing player with a baseball bat is just a cultural difference that us Americans should work harder to understand.

Add pud to this guys resume next to fiction writer.

He did not attack an opposing player


I'm paraphrasing Gordon. He referenced cases like Juan Marichel who certainly did attack, as further support for his theory. I know you are seeing this as an anti Cub argument which has got your irrationality up.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Attacking an opposing player with a baseball bat is just a cultural difference that us Americans should work harder to understand.

Add pud to this guys resume next to fiction writer.

He did not attack an opposing player


I'm paraphrasing Gordon. He referenced cases like Juan Marichel who certainly did attack. I know you are seeing this as an anti Cub argument which has got your irrationality up.

Dont blame me for your incomplete descriptions

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Attacking an opposing player with a baseball bat is just a cultural difference that us Americans should work harder to understand.

Add pud to this guys resume next to fiction writer.

He did not attack an opposing player


I'm paraphrasing Gordon. He referenced cases like Juan Marichel who certainly did attack. I know you are seeing this as an anti Cub argument which has got your irrationality up.

Dont blame me for your incomplete descriptions


I assumed your response would be informed. I should have learned not to make that assumption by now.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

I dont follow the Cubs beat reporters as closely as you


I googled the article and it asked me to sign up. Who are they kidding?

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

It was not in the paper. This statement was on the radio this morning.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:01 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
It was not in the paper. This statement was on the radio this morning.

More dying media

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:38 am ]
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spmack wrote:
Gordon is probably his middle name too. He seems like the kind of guy who go by "L. Gordon Whittenmeyer" or something. Douche.

Yep.

Author:  spmack [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:02 am ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
spmack wrote:
Gordon is probably his middle name too. He seems like the kind of guy who go by "L. Gordon Whittenmeyer" or something. Douche.

Yep.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Should be noted that Gordon Beckham's first name is James. Maybe that explains his struggles.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:03 am ]
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I didn't pick up on the joke until now LGordo

Author:  Chus [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:57 am ]
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Bagels wrote:
i think Gordon is a pretty cool name. you don't come across it too much anymore


Image

Author:  Bagels [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:29 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
Bagels wrote:
i think Gordon is a pretty cool name. you don't come across it too much anymore


Image


Image

Author:  W_Z [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

spmack wrote:
Gordon is probably his middle name too. He seems like the kind of guy who go by "L. Gordon Whittenmeyer" or something. Douche.


his article "social vetwork" was also pretty desperate...he needs to really broaden his scope.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:08 am ]
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On M&H this morning his whole segment was complaining how the Cubs not spending money. The guy is still asshurt that his scout friends have to share a hotel room on the road or don't receive company cars anymore or something. Who the hell knows what's his issue. Last part though was typical Chicago beat writer garbage:

"Why haven't they started renovating the clubhouse?"
"Why haven't they installed the new batting cages?"
"Why haven't they started spending money on renovations not dependent on the rooftop situation settling?"

Well Gordon, you're a reporter! Get your lazy fucking ass working and find out! I bet it's really easy once you ask sources (if your lazy ass has any) as to the Ricketts/Bus Dev's reasons. Why the fuck are you asking Mully and Hanley these questions. Useless prick.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:13 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:

I assumed your response would be informed. I should have learned not to make that assumption by now.


That's a good way to go about things on here, GD.

It will save you time and heartache.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

Kirkwood wrote:
Last part though was typical Chicago beat writer garbage:

"Why haven't they started renovating the clubhouse?"
"Why haven't they installed the new batting cages?"
"Why haven't they started spending money on renovations not dependent on the rooftop situation settling?"

Well Gordon, you're a reporter! Get your lazy fucking ass working and find out! I bet it's really easy once you ask sources (if your lazy ass has any) as to the Ricketts/Bus Dev's reasons. Why the fuck are you asking Mully and Hanley these questions. Useless prick.


I think they're rhetorical questions. We all know that the rooftops don't have shit to do with anything. They're just cover for Joe Ricketts' tying up of little Tommy's purse strings. A convenient scapegoat. These guys are some of the world's biggest con men.

Here's two more questions:

1) Would the Cubs have won more than four games by now if they had signed Ervin Santana and Nelson Cruz?
2) Would they be more watchable?

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Last part though was typical Chicago beat writer garbage:

"Why haven't they started renovating the clubhouse?"
"Why haven't they installed the new batting cages?"
"Why haven't they started spending money on renovations not dependent on the rooftop situation settling?"

Well Gordon, you're a reporter! Get your lazy fucking ass working and find out! I bet it's really easy once you ask sources (if your lazy ass has any) as to the Ricketts/Bus Dev's reasons. Why the fuck are you asking Mully and Hanley these questions. Useless prick.


I think they're rhetorical questions. We all know that the rooftops don't have shit to do with anything. They're just cover for Joe Ricketts' tying up of little Tommy's purse strings. A convenient scapegoat. These guys are some of the world's biggest con men.

Here's two more questions:

1) Would the Cubs have won more than four games by now if they had signed Ervin Santana and Nelson Cruz?
2) Would they be more watchable?

But they are valid questions that fans that probably would like answered. He's just too lazy and too busy barking criticisms from his couch because his scout friends have to share a hotel rooms. Nelson Cruz? No. Terrible outfielder and with 50-game PED suspension who knows what he is anymore. Ervin Santana? No as well as the pitching has been excellent.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:50 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
No as well as the pitching has been excellent.


I don't know how you could think that. This is where advanced statistical analysis has taken us. To some strange idea that the game is played in component parts utterly unrelated to anything else occurring in the specific games. You're not going to open your paper and see scores like 13-8, 9-7, 10-5 constantly the way you did five or ten years ago. Games are going to be 4-2 or 3-1. And when you gave up 3 and scored zero or gave up 2 and scored zero again, your pitching wasn't good. That's baseball.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:56 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
And when you gave up 3 and scored zero or gave up 2 and scored zero again, your pitching wasn't good. That's baseball.

Right and if you gave up 8 and got the Win like Cliff Lee on Opening Day, you pitched well


You mock advanced metrics for compartmentalizing the game, but that's exactly what you do. You're pretty much saying Baseball is SP vs SP, but its certainly not.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:57 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
No as well as the pitching has been excellent.


I don't know how you could think that. This is where advanced statistical analysis has taken us. To some strange idea that the game is played in component parts utterly unrelated to anything else occurring in the specific games. You're not going to open your paper and see scores like 13-8, 9-7, 10-5 constantly the way you did five or ten years ago. Games are going to be 4-2 or 3-1. And when you gave up 3 and scored zero or gave up 2 and scored zero again, your pitching wasn't good. That's baseball.

Fine whatever. There's plenty of other threads to rag on Theo. This is for Wittenmeyer's lazy shoddy work. For 2-3 years now he's been crying about the Ricketts without doing any research or work. He just makes generalizations and puts in the lightest effort to skate through his job. He's exhibit A of why print media is crashing. Entitled good ol boy writer who thinks shit should come on a platter for him since he has a press credential.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:59 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Right and if you gave up 8 and got the Win like Cliff Lee on Opening Day, you pitched well.


I wouldn't necessarily say that. You'd have to look at it a little deeper. You know that game the Cubs lost to the Phillies 23-22 back in the 70s? If a starter could have gone the route that day and allowed 8, we should be talking about that effort in the argument with the Buehrle and Wood games.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:01 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
You're pretty much saying Baseball is SP vs SP, but its certainly not.


But those are the two most important positions in any baseball game. "Run support" is just another name for somebody else's ERA.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Whitenmeyer

Kirkwood wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
No as well as the pitching has been excellent.


I don't know how you could think that. This is where advanced statistical analysis has taken us. To some strange idea that the game is played in component parts utterly unrelated to anything else occurring in the specific games. You're not going to open your paper and see scores like 13-8, 9-7, 10-5 constantly the way you did five or ten years ago. Games are going to be 4-2 or 3-1. And when you gave up 3 and scored zero or gave up 2 and scored zero again, your pitching wasn't good. That's baseball.

Fine whatever. There's plenty of other threads to rag on Theo. This is for Wittenmeyer's lazy shoddy work. For 2-3 years now he's been crying about the Ricketts without doing any research or work. He just makes generalizations and puts in the lightest effort to skate through his job. He's exhibit A of why print media is crashing. Entitled good ol boy writer who thinks shit should come on a platter for him since he has a press credential.


I disgaree with you. He's the only guy that isn't swallowing the Theo/Ricketts con job hook, line, and sinker, and promoting the company line about "the Plan" and you resent him for that?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:06 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I disgaree with you. He's the only guy that isn't swallowing the Theo/Ricketts con job hook, line, and sinker, and promoting the company line about "the Plan" and you resent him for that?

Among who?

Who is accepting it? Im just asking, I dont follow the local media as close as you. I think Rosenbloom has been pretty critical

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:10 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I disgaree with you. He's the only guy that isn't swallowing the Theo/Ricketts con job hook, line, and sinker, and promoting the company line about "the Plan" and you resent him for that?

I resent him for being a useless lazy entitled prick. Here's a blogger putting in more effort into understanding and trying to educate fans on the Ricketts financial situation and thinking than Wittenmeyer has ever done:

http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/03/19/the-chicago-cubs-financial-story-the-payroll-the-debt-and-the-syncing-of-baseball-and-business-plans/

It's extremely long and would likely be a 2-3 part story in a newspaper. Writing a story examining their financial situation, the reality, the possibilities, the plan requires effort. Wittenmeyer has none of that. Instead he's too busy crying the press box has hot dogs instead of prime rib.

That's on top of the pure bullshit he feeds listeners/reader. Last year he was trumpeting that what the Cubs as a big market team are doing is 1st of it's kind. Except the Mets are doing the exact same thing. Lazy dumbass. :lol:

Shit, let's not even forget the Astros doing the same thing. Houston is a top 10 media market in the US. But don't let fact get in the way of Wittenmeyer's prime rib.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:11 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I disgaree with you. He's the only guy that isn't swallowing the Theo/Ricketts con job hook, line, and sinker, and promoting the company line about "the Plan" and you resent him for that?

Among who?

Who is accepting it? Im just asking, I dont follow the local media as close as you. I think Rosenbloom has been pretty critical


I'm not really exposed to Rosenbloom. I'll catch him once in awhile on Saturday morning, but his "column" in the Trib is just dumb jokes. My impression of him is that he's just looking to use whatever he can as a platform to repeat the same old, tired, and unfunny jokes and that he doesn't have much of a viewpoint on sports at all. He's seen it all before and he seems exhausted to be be discussing it.

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