good dolphin wrote:
Ditka owned the Packers and beat Forrest Gregg at his own cheap shotting game
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chicago Bears |
For retiring Ditka's number. Shouldn't the bar be set substantially higher to have a number retired? He was a good tight end for a few years and arguably underachieved significantly with only one Super Bowl title. Also, he's an asshole. I blame SNL and other media outlets for keeping his fame eternal. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Are you kidding or just trying to get a response. Ditka is the standard by which all tight ends are judged. Then he won a Super Bowl as an assistant and another as a head coach. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Northside_Dan wrote: For retiring Ditka's number. Shouldn't the bar be set substantially higher to have a number retired? He was a good tight end for a few years and arguably underachieved significantly with only one Super Bowl title. Also, he's an asshole. I blame SNL and other media outlets for keeping his fame eternal. Hes in the HOF, Dan. Probably a little better than a good tight end for a few years. His Super Bowl title is one more than any other Bears coach has. Unless youre pissed that Matt Spaeth has to find another number, I dont have that big of a problem with it. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
badrogue17 wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: For retiring Ditka's number. Shouldn't the bar be set substantially higher to have a number retired? He was a good tight end for a few years and arguably underachieved significantly with only one Super Bowl title. Also, he's an asshole. I blame SNL and other media outlets for keeping his fame eternal. Hes in the HOF, Dan. Probably a little better than a good tight end for a few years. His Super Bowl title is one more than any other Bears coach has. Unless youre pissed that Matt Spaeth has to find another number, I dont have that big of a problem with it. I don't have strong feelings about this but he was the FIRST tight end in the hall of fame. |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Maybe it's personal feelings, but I can't stand him. He's maybe my least favorite Chicago figure of all time. I rather rot in hell for eternity with Belushi(Jim), Cusack and Oprah than listen to him for 5 minutes. His ongoing fame is only the result of he's a loudmouth asshole who's willing to put his name on anything/do anything just to stay in the limelight. He's the worst. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
His number is being retired because he was a HOF tight end. No problem with that. They aren't honoring him as a coach. He was a hall of fame player and deserves to have his number retired. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Northside_Dan wrote: Maybe it's personal feelings, but I can't stand him. He's maybe my least favorite Chicago figure of all time. I rather rot in hell for eternity with Belushi(Jim), Cusack and Oprah than listen to him for 5 minutes. His ongoing fame is only the result of he's a loudmouth asshole who's willing to put his name on anything/do anything just to stay in the limelight. He's the worst. All those points are perfectly valid but don't diminish Ditka the football player. I know he is a an obnoxious schill who has done shitty things in his time. However, there are a million stories out there of Ditka quietly doing great things for charities and just people on the street. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
I'm Hawg Ass and I agree with the subject. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Ditka owned the Packers and beat Forrest Gregg at his own cheap shotting game |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Des Clark was better. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
good dolphin wrote: Ditka owned the Packers and beat Forrest Gregg at his own cheap shotting game
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Fri May 24, 2013 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
good dolphin wrote: Ditka owned the Packers and beat Forrest Gregg at his own cheap shotting game This is reason enough. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri May 24, 2013 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Frank Coztansa wrote: His number is being retired because he was a HOF tight end. No problem with that. They aren't honoring him as a coach. He was a hall of fame player and deserves to have his number retired. Agree with Frank here. HOF Tight End and deserves to have his number retired. Dan I think your personal feelings are affecting your thoughts if you somehow think he was just a "good" TE. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri May 24, 2013 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
RFDC wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: His number is being retired because he was a HOF tight end. No problem with that. They aren't honoring him as a coach. He was a hall of fame player and deserves to have his number retired. Agree with Frank here. HOF Tight End and deserves to have his number retired. Dan I think your personal feelings are affecting your thoughts if you somehow think he was just a "good" TE. Ditka and John Mackey invented the modern pass-catching tight end position. Prior to them tight ends were just blockers. It's completely deserved, even without the Super Bowl as coach. And I consider Ditka a big-mouth jerk-off. |
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| Author: | SteveSarley [ Fri May 24, 2013 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Don't forget the St. Louis Cardinal's Jackie Smith in that group, JORR. That said, Lebron James is better than Butkus, Mackey and Smith combined. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri May 24, 2013 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
SteveSarley wrote: Don't forget the St. Louis Cardinal's Jackie Smith in that group, JORR. A great player who is sadly only remembered for dropping that ball. SteveSarley wrote: That said, Lebron James is better than Butkus, Mackey and Smith combined. 
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Fri May 24, 2013 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
good dolphin wrote: Are you kidding or just trying to get a response. Ditka is the standard by which all tight ends are judged. Then he won a Super Bowl as an assistant and another as a head coach. Spot on. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Fri May 24, 2013 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Quote: He was a good tight end for a few years And yet still #4 in Bears all-time receiving yards. |
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| Author: | newper [ Fri May 24, 2013 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Jaw Breaker wrote: And yet still #4 in Bears all-time receiving yards. I would suggest this speaks more to the Bears inadequacies in the passing game over the past two decades than to Ditka's greatness as a receiver. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Fri May 24, 2013 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
newper wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: And yet still #4 in Bears all-time receiving yards. I would suggest this speaks more to the Bears inadequacies in the passing game over the past two decades than to Ditka's greatness as a receiver. 
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| Author: | newper [ Fri May 24, 2013 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Jaw Breaker wrote: newper wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: And yet still #4 in Bears all-time receiving yards. I would suggest this speaks more to the Bears inadequacies in the passing game over the past two decades than to Ditka's greatness as a receiver. [img]thatsthejoke.jpg I see. Well told. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Fri May 24, 2013 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Did he ever dunk on the goalpost after catching a TD pass? Weak sauce. |
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| Author: | Scorehead [ Sat May 25, 2013 12:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chicago Bears |
Denied. Ditka revolutionized the TE position. Also, there are lots of assholes In the HOF. |
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