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Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 28, 2013 8:58 am ]
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Tired coverage of an even more tired series. Do you really think you are going to spark some controversy by comparing the two "aces" of the Sox and Cubs and letting the beat reporters make a case for each. I would venture to guess that there is not a single MLB exec, scout or clubhouse boy that would have taken Samardija over Sale at any point in their MLB careers.

On the other hand, props for page 54. This is the season for championships for the wolfpack!

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Sun Times

good dolphin wrote:
I would venture to guess that there is not a single MLB exec, scout or clubhouse boy that would have taken Samardija over Sale at any point in their MLB careers.

Overstating it a bit.

Samardzija is a good youngish starter with a history of good health

Sale is great, but seems like injuries might be an issue.

its not THAT crazy

Author:  Bagels [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:35 am ]
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ongoing DB for them having the worst website in the world

Author:  spmack [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Sun Times

rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I would venture to guess that there is not a single MLB exec, scout or clubhouse boy that would have taken Samardija over Sale at any point in their MLB careers.

Overstating it a bit.

Samardzija is a good youngish starter with a history of good health

Sale is great, but seems like injuries might be an issue.

its not THAT crazy

You gotta remember that Good Dolphin the biggest Sox meatball on the board. He's Elmhurst Steve without the horse.

Author:  Northside_Dan [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:37 am ]
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spmack wrote:
He's Elmhurst Steve without the horse.


Or the overt racism.

Author:  Northside_Dan [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:38 am ]
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Double post fail

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:52 am ]
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dolphin trolls, but Steve is just flat out stupid. That is not the case with gd.

Sale being a lefty also gives him an edge over shark.

Author:  bigfan [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:53 am ]
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spmack wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I would venture to guess that there is not a single MLB exec, scout or clubhouse boy that would have taken Samardija over Sale at any point in their MLB careers.

Overstating it a bit.

Samardzija is a good youngish starter with a history of good health

Sale is great, but seems like injuries might be an issue.

its not THAT crazy

You gotta remember that Good Dolphin the biggest Sox meatball on the board. He's Elmhurst Steve without the horse.

He might have a horse!

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Sun Times

I would still take Sale, btw.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 28, 2013 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chicago Sun Times

spmack wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I would venture to guess that there is not a single MLB exec, scout or clubhouse boy that would have taken Samardija over Sale at any point in their MLB careers.

Overstating it a bit.

Samardzija is a good youngish starter with a history of good health

Sale is great, but seems like injuries might be an issue.

its not THAT crazy

You gotta remember that Good Dolphin the biggest Sox meatball on the board. He's Elmhurst Steve without the horse.


I was married on a mountain top by a sherpa wise man. I was carried to the ceremony atop stunning white alpaca. My wife to be was forced to walk, carrying her dowry of goat jerkey, blood sausage and the shrunken head of a forefather, as is the custom of that land.

Author:  Rod [ Tue May 28, 2013 10:39 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Sale being a lefty also gives him an edge over shark.



Sale is also willing and able to acknowledge sarcasm.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 28, 2013 11:10 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Sale being a lefty also gives him an edge over shark.


that and being the far superior pitcher according to just about every objective and subjective standard

The only thing that can balance the debate is injury concern, which to this point has been severely overstated

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue May 28, 2013 11:26 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
The only thing that can balance the debate is injury concern, which to this point has been severely overstated

If a cub pitcher was hyped like Sale and had missed starts, you would be calling him a china doll

Author:  RFDC [ Tue May 28, 2013 11:32 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The only thing that can balance the debate is injury concern, which to this point has been severely overstated

If a cub pitcher was hyped like Sale and had missed starts, you would be calling him a china doll

Exactly.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 28, 2013 11:42 am ]
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RFDC wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The only thing that can balance the debate is injury concern, which to this point has been severely overstated

If a cub pitcher was hyped like Sale and had missed starts, you would be calling him a china doll

Exactly.


The guy made 29 starts last year in 192 innings in his first year of starting. He is on pace for 30 and 211 this year even after being bumped for one start against his will. Two years ago he made 58 appearances out of the bullpen. There is nothing fragile about him.

Hype has met production.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue May 28, 2013 11:45 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
RFDC wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The only thing that can balance the debate is injury concern, which to this point has been severely overstated

If a cub pitcher was hyped like Sale and had missed starts, you would be calling him a china doll

Exactly.


The guy made 29 starts last year in 192 innings in his first year of starting. He is on pace for 30 and 211 this year even after being bumped for one start against his will. Two years ago he made 58 appearances out of the bullpen. There is nothing fragile about him.

Hype has met production.

Agreed.

But if it were a Cub pitcher, none of that would matter. You would be calling him fragile.

Author:  Baby McNown [ Tue May 28, 2013 5:45 pm ]
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The Sun Times beating a dead horse? You don't say.... Lemme open up today's. 95% chance of an article about Uno. Which is the new David Koschman (complete with every day front page HS yearbook photo even though the dick graduated 4 years before). Maybe something about how the evil Ricketts are going to block the rooftops. Surely something about the parking meters....

C'mon now. It's not like you don't know what to expect.

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Tue May 28, 2013 5:48 pm ]
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Sale and Shark should MMA to determine who's better. Dusty as referee.

Author:  24_Guy [ Tue May 28, 2013 6:00 pm ]
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Just so it's not missed, I C what you did there, JORR.

8)

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Tue May 28, 2013 8:46 pm ]
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Dbag dolphin for still reading that rag.

Author:  NearWessSideHussra [ Tue May 28, 2013 11:47 pm ]
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what happened with Sean Jensen, quit or cut?

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed May 29, 2013 12:51 pm ]
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Colonel Angus wrote:
Dbag dolphin for still reading that rag.


It's the paper of the people. I'm nothing if not one of the 99%.

I think you could make the argument that not only is Sale obviously superior but that Jake Peavy is the second best pitcher in this city.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:12 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Colonel Angus wrote:
Dbag dolphin for still reading that rag.


It's the paper of the people. I'm nothing if not one of the 99%.

I think you could make the argument that not only is Sale obviously superior but that Jake Peavy is the second best pitcher in this city.

You could make a case that Samardzija and Wood are the better 1-2 punch

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:41 pm ]
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No I couldn't.

If you did, I wouldn't read it.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:43 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
No I couldn't.

If you did, I wouldn't read it.

Because the truth hurts.

Wood and Samardzija have been as good if not better than the vaunted Sale-Peavy combo

Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:44 pm ]
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RPB is the Frank of Cubs fans.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:48 pm ]
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So is anyone going to make RPB's argument?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:50 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
RPB is the Frank of Cubs fans.

That's bullshit and a low blow.

I dont troll. I believe the things I say.

Check out Wood and Samardzija's numbers vs Peavy and Sale and then come back and say Im trolling.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:52 pm ]
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Check out their performance relative to league average and tell me you're serious.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
RPB is the Frank of Cubs fans.

That's bullshit and a low blow.

I dont troll. I believe the things I say.



rogers park bryan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Wellington Castillo doesnt homer off of dominant pitchers
He didn't.

Agreed, jury still out on Sale's dominance

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