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Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  U of C

Removed pews in historic Bond Chapel to accomodate Muslim prayer group.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/remov ... nce-97928/

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Bond Chapel's Reneker Organ

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

Hatchetman wrote:
Removed pews in historic Bond Chapel to accomodate Muslim prayer group.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/remov ... nce-97928/

Image
Bond Chapel's Reneker Organ


I wonder if a mosque would show as much accommodation to a Christian prayer group.

If a mosque somewhere already has, well ,whatever.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

If you accommodate other religions, you're not a real religion.

Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

I was surprised when i went to Europe and found that many churches in Italy had no pews.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

Seacrest wrote:
I was surprised when i went to Europe and found that many churches in Italy had no pews.


That's because back in medieval times when men where men and mass was four hours long no pews were required because people stood up for the whole thing.

Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

SpiralStairs wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
I was surprised when i went to Europe and found that many churches in Italy had no pews.


That's because back in medieval times when men where men and mass was four hours long no pews were required because people stood up for the whole thing.


And when did men cease to be men?

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

Seacrest wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
I was surprised when i went to Europe and found that many churches in Italy had no pews.


That's because back in medieval times when men where men and mass was four hours long no pews were required because people stood up for the whole thing.


And when did men cease to be men?

Hey there.

Author:  beni hanna [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

Seacrest wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
I was surprised when i went to Europe and found that many churches in Italy had no pews.


That's because back in medieval times when men where men and mass was four hours long no pews were required because people stood up for the whole thing.


And when did men cease to be men?

I'll take when sheep asked for a smoke break for $800 Alex.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

SomeGuy wrote:

I wonder if a mosque would show as much accommodation to a Christian prayer group.

If a mosque somewhere already has, well ,whatever.


Interfaith events happen all the time here. I've personally been involved in several interfaith gatherings/events in mosques, synagogues, and churches for the past decade or so, in personal and professional contexts. Just last November I was the primary point person in organizing a Jewish-Muslim dinner at a mosque, during which several Evangelicals, Baptists, and Catholics joined Muslims and Jews, the latter of which were mostly from the Conservative movement. We ordered kosher and halal food, and later on all three religious groups performed prayers at different times.

Now I know this donation of space to accommodate prayer is different than interfaith events, but I did not understand the kind of undercurrent of antagonism I sensed in your post. I'd say I've met more Catholics than any other religious group outside of my own tradition, and I can't even begin to enumerate the unsolicited acts of kindness and accommodations I've received at their hands, for a variety of different purposes, including temporary space for communal prayer while in college. I don't know the entire context behind this enormous gesture from the UC church, and while it may be unique in terms of gravity given the particular place, it certainly wouldn't be the first cross-religious act of accommodation and friendship involving Muslims and Christians in this country.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

veganfan21 wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:

I wonder if a mosque would show as much accommodation to a Christian prayer group.

If a mosque somewhere already has, well ,whatever.


Interfaith events happen all the time here. I've personally been involved in several interfaith gatherings/events in mosques, synagogues, and churches for the past decade or so, in personal and professional contexts. Just last November I was the primary point person in organizing a Jewish-Muslim dinner at a mosque, during which several Evangelicals, Baptists, and Catholics joined Muslims and Jews, the latter of which were mostly from the Conservative movement. We ordered kosher and halal food, and later on all three religious groups performed prayers at different times.

Now I know this donation of space to accommodate prayer is different than interfaith events, but I did not understand the kind of undercurrent of antagonism I sensed in your post. I'd say I've met more Catholics than any other religious group outside of my own tradition, and I can't even begin to enumerate the unsolicited acts of kindness and accommodations I've received at their hands, for a variety of different purposes, including temporary space for communal prayer while in college. I don't know the entire context behind this enormous gesture from the UC church, and while it may be unique in terms of gravity given the particular place, it certainly wouldn't be the first cross-religious act of accommodation and friendship involving Muslims and Christians in this country.


Whoa, whoa, whoa...slow down.

It was actually a legitimate question.

Thank you for your response.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

SomeGuy wrote:

Whoa, whoa, whoa...slow down.

It was actually a legitimate question.

Thank you for your response.


My bad then. Always hard to tell when reading text.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

veganfan21 wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:

Whoa, whoa, whoa...slow down.

It was actually a legitimate question.

Thank you for your response.


My bad then. Always hard to tell when reading text.


Have you met Chaspoopcup, yet?

Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

Yes, I have.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

I have a problem with allowing Muslims to hold their regular non-interfaith services in a Christian worship space, originally donated by a devout Baptist. I would think that the U of C, with its $7billion endowment could afford a few mil to build a nice new Islamic Center, with all the accoutrements that go with their religion.

I am all for interfaith events, but as I read it, these are not interfaith events.

Author:  Chus [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

SomeGuy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:

Whoa, whoa, whoa...slow down.

It was actually a legitimate question.

Thank you for your response.


My bad then. Always hard to tell when reading text.


Have you met Chaspoopcup, yet?


I vote for SomeGuy.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

Confuscious say "man who fart I'm church sit in own pew"

Author:  Seacrest [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: U of C

good dolphin wrote:
Confuscious say "man who fart I'm church sit in own pew"


Confucius say, "man won't have that problem at the U of C anymore."

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