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Author:  conns7901 [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  State of California

What the fuck is wrong with these people? I can't wait for the first girls state champion basketball team with all transgendered boys.

California Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a groundbreaking bill which will allow transgender youth to use whatever bathroom and participate on whichever sports team they believe matches their gender identity.

As the Associated Press reported last month, California's Assembly Bill 1266 gives students in public K-12 schools the right "to participate in sex-segregated programs, activities and facilities" based on their self-perception, regardless of their birth gender. Although Massachusetts, Connecticut, Washington and Colorado have adopted policies designed to protect transgender students, California becomes the first state to address the issue with a statewide law, Fox News pointed out.

News of Brown's Aug. 12 signing was confirmed in an email to HuffPost Gay Voices from Mark Snyder of the Transgender Law Center.

Scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1, 2014, AB1266 was authored by Assemblymember Tom Ammiano and passed the California State Senate and Assembly earlier this summer, according to San Diego Gay and Lesbian News.

Meanwhile, Brown's move quickly drew praise from the state's lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community.

"I'm so excited that California is making sure transgender students have a fair chance to graduate and succeed," Calen Valencia, an 18-year-old transgender student, said in an email statement. "I should have graduated this year, but my school refused to give me the same opportunity to succeed as other boys. Now other transgender youth won't have to choose between being themselves and graduating high school."

Echoing those sentiments was Masen Davis, Executive Director of the Transgender Law Center. “Now, every transgender student in California will be able to get up in the morning knowing that when they go to school as their authentic self they will have the same fair chance at success as their classmates," Davis said in an email.

More conservative pundits felt differently. "This radical bill warps the gender expectations of children by forcing all California public schools to permit biological boys in girls restrooms, showers, clubs and on girls sports teams and biological girls in boys restrooms, showers, clubs and sports teams," Randy Thomasson of savecalifornia.com told Fox News. "This is insanity."

Author:  cpguy [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

This is 2013. Get used to it.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

Bottom line,I think most women would feel very unsafe,uncomfortable with a guy in the stall next to them. It's just not right. This opens the door for rapists,perverts dressed like chicks to go use a womans john.

Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

Keeping Score wrote:
I think we've discussed this before but it all comes down to the wang. If you have one, you're a man. Even if it's a little shriveled up gross looking one like Don Tiny has. (Presumably)

Hell, even if you had one sewn on I'd say you're still a man because you really gotta have some balls to do that.


I perceive myself as a teacher therefore I am using the teachers lounge bathroom and teaching Geometry 2 today. I perceive myself as a woodland creature and therefore I am taking a shit on the floor. I perceive myself as an official and therefore I will be the back judge at the football game tonight. I perceive myself as........

Author:  W_Z [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

State, what state? State of California? I know where the fuck I live, Jack.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

Keeping Score wrote:
I think we've discussed this before but it all comes down to the wang. If you have one, you're a man. Even if it's a little shriveled up gross looking one like Don Tiny has. (Presumably)

Hell, even if you had one sewn on I'd say you're still a man because you really gotta have some balls to do that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmK1osGXhq4

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

jimmypasta wrote:
Bottom line,I think most women would feel very unsafe,uncomfortable with a guy in the stall next to them. It's just not right. This opens the door for rapists,perverts dressed like chicks to go use a womans john.

Dude, a transgendered female is not the same as a man in drag.

Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
Bottom line,I think most women would feel very unsafe,uncomfortable with a guy in the stall next to them. It's just not right. This opens the door for rapists,perverts dressed like chicks to go use a womans john.

Dude, a transgendered female is not the same as a man in drag.


Is this bill saying that if you have both male and female genitals you can choose which sex to perceive yourself as or is it saying if like you are a male trapped in a females body you can perceive yourself as female and thus be treated as a female by the school??

If its the first part then its fine but if there is any ambiguity in this bill that would allow the second part to come to fruition then its a terrible bill.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

This is easily solved

You have three bathrooms

Men, Women, and The Wild Card bathroom where anyone and anyTHING goes

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
Bottom line,I think most women would feel very unsafe,uncomfortable with a guy in the stall next to them. It's just not right. This opens the door for rapists,perverts dressed like chicks to go use a womans john.

Dude, a transgendered female is not the same as a man in drag.


Is this bill saying that if you have both male and female genitals you can choose which sex to perceive yourself as or is it saying if like you are a male trapped in a females body you can perceive yourself as female and thus be treated as a female by the school??

If its the first part then its fine but if there is any ambiguity in this bill that would allow the second part to come to fruition then its a terrible bill.

I read it as the first part.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

If this is for people post op I am OK with that but I was under the impression that you couldnt have sex change surgery as a minor. You had to go through years of psychological exams before the docs OKd it.

Author:  pittmike [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:41 am ]
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At least from what I read in the similar law in Massachusetts surgery is not required. I imagine some funny biz going on with this. The other point there that was a bone of contention was that the school didn't have to or wasn't required to tell the minor students parents about the situation.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

Yeah, I can see a lot of horny 15yr olds suddenly saying they feel trapped in the wrong body and using the girls locker room.

Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:53 am ]
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These kids need to commit to the indian. No perception allowed.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:56 am ]
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Some AD is just gonna throw together an all boy team for every girl sport and win every championship.

Author:  Mr. Belvidere [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

This is bullshit. You complainers are making way too much out of this. Turn off your Fox news or Rush Limbaugh. There will be so few cases it wont even be an issue.

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:26 am ]
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Mr. Belvidere wrote:
This is bullshit. You complainers are making way too much out of this. Turn off your Fox news or Rush Limbaugh. There will be so few cases it wont even be an issue.

I agree.

It's funny that the party obsessed with "values" is always talking about sex.

Author:  conns7901 [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:10 am ]
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Mr. Belvidere wrote:
This is bullshit. You complainers are making way too much out of this. Turn off your Fox news or Rush Limbaugh. There will be so few cases it wont even be an issue.


So you think it is ok for high school guys to change, shower, use same bathroom and play sports on girls teams because they mentally feel like a girl?

Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

Come on. Who hasn't wished they could play on the girls' team at least once in their grade school career? Let's see a showing of hands.

Anyone? Anyone?

:oops:

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

Douchebag wrote:
Mr. Belvidere wrote:
This is bullshit. You complainers are making way too much out of this. Turn off your Fox news or Rush Limbaugh. There will be so few cases it wont even be an issue.

I agree.

It's funny that the party obsessed with "values" is always talking about sex.

I don't think this is a political issue. I don't want my daughter sharing a locker room with a male.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:47 am ]
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But its a female! Just with male parts!

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:55 am ]
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Mr. Belvidere wrote:
This is bullshit. You complainers are making way too much out of this. Turn off your Fox news or Rush Limbaugh. There will be so few cases it wont even be an issue.


Christ, you're such a fucking clown.
:roll: :roll:
Everyone is a FoxNews watching, Rush Limbaugh listening nut job.....well, everyone but Belvidere! He really knows what's going on!

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: State of California

SomeGuy wrote:
Mr. Belvidere wrote:
This is bullshit. You complainers are making way too much out of this. Turn off your Fox news or Rush Limbaugh. There will be so few cases it wont even be an issue.


Christ, you're such a fucking clown.

Everyone is a FoxNews watching, Rush Limbaugh listening nut job.....well, everyone but Belvidere! He really knows what's going on!

:lol:

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