Dan Jiggets always said: "Nothing good happens after 2 in the morning"

I used to tell my kids the same thing. Still not a reason to get shot.

The kid could have been sleeping and came down to the porch to tell her dumbass parents that she can't sleep due to the loud noises from their party.

Except the story in the newspaper says she was hanging out with 3 other kids on the stoop at 4am ( after a party at the residence had ended) when the woman walked by and shot 5 bullets at the group. But go ahead and make up things that never happened and ignore the facts of what actually happened, if that works better for you....

An unidentified woman walked by while the youngster and 3 others were gathered on the stoop after a party at the residence ended.

Sure,I agree. The front porch was a way of life for most in my Chicago neighborhood growing up (Grand & Avers). I knew just about every family on the block growing up. Nobody ever worried about getting shot.

That's because nobody had yet to create the gun.

The biggest DB is the person who fired the gun.

That's obvious. The kids still shouldn't have been outside at 4am.

I find it interesting that few seem to be bothered by the fact that this 11 year old was out on her stoop at 4am the day before school was to begin for her. Just how alert and attentive is the 11 year old going to be, when the Mother and stepfather are having a party till the early morning hours and still awake and hanging out at 4am? Just as it is a coach's job to put his/her athletes in a position to succeed, it is a parents job to do the same with their child. Having a child up at 4am the day before school begins, is an epic fail. That child is going to be so tired that she is likely to be falling asleep. If not asleep, most likely not attentive. It's awful parenting. Yes, the woman doing the shooting was far worse. I am not comparing the two. But these parents put this child in jeopardy by allowing her to stay up and be outside on that stoop at 4am. I hope they catch the shooter and if they do, I hope the judge gives those parents some stern advice about allowing an 11 year old to be on that stoop at 4am.

Maybe the kid is an early riser. My Grandma gets up everyday around 4:00 AM.

so he can get the early bird special ?

Maybe they woke up extra early for school that day rather than the assumed staying up late

Maybe they woke up extra early for school that day rather than the assumed staying up late

so he can get the early bird special ?

Steve is the same guy that would be mad if the parents let the child oversleep and missed the first day of school.

Steve is the same guy that would be mad if the parents let the child oversleep and missed the first day of school.

I just think they are lousy parents,

I wouldn't be mad, but I would be critical of it. I'm not mad at these parents, but I am critical of them....big difference. Why would I be mad? They aren't my kids, so if they are falling asleep in school, not attentive to the teacher and not learning as they should, it has little effect on me. I just think they are lousy parents, to be having a party that lasts into the morning and have that 11 year old still up and hanging out on their stoop at 4am. Would I also be critical of a parent that allows their child to oversleep and miss the first day of school? First off, why would the child miss the first day of school if they oversleep? Are they sleeping an extra 7-8 hours, so as to sleep through every class? If they failed to get up on time, you drive them to school as quickly as possible and they are tardy, but don't miss the day of school. But yes, not getting the kid up on time and off to school is also poor parenting. If you have to throw a bucket of ice water on them to get their ass up, that's what you do. Most kids have few responsibilities, but the one important one they have, is to get to school on time and do their school work to the best of their abilities. Not too much to ask.

After all, you want them to go to a good school and not have to settle for somewhere like Purdue.