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Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
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Author:  Nas [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
If he plays Sunday.
Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Denied. It is how he copes it looks like. He's had a rough life.

If you want to dbag him for possibly being absentee in this kid's life, I think I'd agree. He has had it rough though.
Author:  Nas [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
I just feel differently. Playing a game after losing a child to violence is worse IMO than being an absentee father. It screams selfishness.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:56 pm ]
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Denied, and awfully damned judgmental (and inappropriate) of you to presume you know what's best for him to do.

Bad form.
Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:01 pm ]
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What's wrong with being judgmental?

I think he has said before it's how he copes.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:04 pm ]
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If he plays on Sunday, he'll hate it for the rest of his life.

Ask or read about Pete Rozelle's later feelings about keeping the NFL schedule intact the Sunday after JFK was killed.

This would be worse, imo.
Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:10 pm ]
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its how he dealt with his brother's death, I think. That's 20 years of greiving thru sports. He's not going to play after a child he doesn't know dies?

Some drink, some eat, some cry, he play sports.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:20 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
its how he dealt with his brother's death, I think. That's 20 years of greiving thru sports. He's not going to play after a child he doesn't know dies?

Some drink, some eat, some cry, he plays sports.



A sibling or parent is entirely different than a child's passing. In the early morning hours I've worried about a sick parent, stayed up for an ill parent, but I doubt I'd even consider sleeping behind my son's passing.
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:20 pm ]
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Let him do what he wants. No one knows what he knew about this kid. In any case he knows about this tragedy and understands it truer and deeper than any of us can possibly comprehend. Whatever he choses to do will be the right choice for him. No one else is in a position to judge, no matter what the circumstance.
Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:23 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:

A sibling or parent is entirely different than a child's passing. In the early morning hours I've worried about a sick parent, stayed up for an ill parent, but I doubt I'd even consider sleeping behind my son's passing.


Sure but there are different psychological theories at work and I don't think this is a typical situation.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:26 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:

A sibling or parent is entirely different than a child's passing. In the early morning hours I've worried about a sick parent, stayed up for an ill parent, but I doubt I'd even consider sleeping behind my son's passing.


Sure but there are different psychological theories at work and I don't think this is a typical situation.


And an atypical situation routinely results in an atypical response (i.e. not playing for his long term well being)
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Nas wrote:
Playing a game after losing a child to violence is worse IMO than being an absentee father.


This might well be as asinine a statement as I think I've ever read on this board.

Is the kid gonna end up more dead? Does the guy walk on the future legal charges because of it? Is there some implication on the kid's eternal soul that I'm not aware of? Does not playing somehow have enough (false) piety to mystically rewrite history?

I don't even know where to begin pretending to think there's something at all to your point. At least RR has his amateur shrink hat on when discussing the merits - or (arguably) lack thereof in playing - but this? Just dogshit-in-the-cornflakes bad and to what end I have no earthly idea and am rather thankful that I don't.
Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:35 pm ]
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I bet imu thinks his money should keep all this from being a problem.

You will almost always fall back on patterns.
Author:  Nas [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:40 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Denied, and awfully damned judgmental (and inappropriate) of you to presume you know what's best for him to do.

Bad form.


Your judging me for judging him is really something. I don't care that you find my opinion inappropriate either.
Author:  Nas [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Don Tiny wrote:
Nas wrote:
Playing a game after losing a child to violence is worse IMO than being an absentee father.


This might well be as asinine a statement as I think I've ever read on this board.

Is the kid gonna end up more dead? Does the guy walk on the future legal charges because of it? Is there some implication on the kid's eternal soul that I'm not aware of? Does not playing somehow have enough (false) piety to mystically rewrite history?

I don't even know where to begin pretending to think there's something at all to your point. At least RR has his amateur shrink hat on when discussing the merits - or (arguably) lack thereof in playing - but this? Just dogshit-in-the-cornflakes bad and to what end I have no earthly idea and am rather thankful that I don't.


Considering you make the same statement just about every other day who really knows? I would suggest you get over it.
Author:  Juiced [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:48 pm ]
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Denied.

Who are we to tell someone how to grieve? If he wants to beat up on people on Sunday to let out his anger, then more power to him. Go kick some ass.

Just because the PC thing to do is not play, doesn't make it the right thing to do. Not playing is not going to bring back his son.
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:51 pm ]
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Denied for reason. Still possible over all. I motion a continuance to be heard sometime next week
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Nas wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Nas wrote:
Playing a game after losing a child to violence is worse IMO than being an absentee father.


This might well be as asinine a statement as I think I've ever read on this board.

Is the kid gonna end up more dead? Does the guy walk on the future legal charges because of it? Is there some implication on the kid's eternal soul that I'm not aware of? Does not playing somehow have enough (false) piety to mystically rewrite history?

I don't even know where to begin pretending to think there's something at all to your point. At least RR has his amateur shrink hat on when discussing the merits - or (arguably) lack thereof in playing - but this? Just dogshit-in-the-cornflakes bad and to what end I have no earthly idea and am rather thankful that I don't.


Considering you make the same statement just about every other day who really knows? I would suggest you get over it.


You're 0-2 on good suggestions in this thread.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Juiced wrote:
Denied.

Who are we to tell someone how to grieve? If he wants to beat up on people on Sunday to let out his anger, then more power to him. Go kick some ass.

Just because the PC thing to do is not play, doesn't make it the right thing to do. Not playing is not going to bring back his son.


That's what we do here just about 24/7. We judge everything. Why is this different? It is my belief that just about every parent in the world would be an emotional wreck over losing a child and wouldn't be able to eat or speak let alone go to practice immediately and play in a game. Apparently most of you all believe this is perfectly fine normal behavior. That's fine. My opinion is unfazed by it.
Author:  Juiced [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Nas wrote:
Juiced wrote:
Denied.

Who are we to tell someone how to grieve? If he wants to beat up on people on Sunday to let out his anger, then more power to him. Go kick some ass.

Just because the PC thing to do is not play, doesn't make it the right thing to do. Not playing is not going to bring back his son.


That's what we do here just about 24/7. We judge everything. Why is this different? It is my belief that just about every parent in the world would be an emotional wreck over losing a child and wouldn't be able to eat or speak let alone go to practice immediately and play in a game. Apparently most of you all believe this is perfectly fine normal behavior. That's fine. My opinion is unfazed by it.


We have boundries that are not crossed. Kids being one of them and wives another.

I am not saying you can't think he is a douchebag for playing in sundays game. I am just saying I don't agree with you. We can agree to disagree. Only an asshat Don Tiny would force their beliefs on you and call you an ass for them.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Keeping Score wrote:
Only on the CSFMB does Adrian Peterson get D-Bagged on the same day his 2 year old son dies because of the actions of a deranged psychopath.

Well done, CSFMB. Well done.



Only one person made the preposterous thread. One person. Levy your distaste with that person directly.
Author:  Brick [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:03 am ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
The pictures of Adrian and his son on Twitter are soul crushing. As well as the picture Peterson himself tweeted out earlier tonight.

If you wanna see the cute little angel, just type in Adrian Peterson and then go to Photos.

It'll make you sad, but it's very, very powerful.

:(
It doesn't make a big difference but the child in those pictures is still alive.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
I said to myself that this would be a thread (and controversy) today before I signed on. There is no way I could do it,but it's a tough call to judge someone dealing with a tragedy. I'm wondering if anyone from the Vikings gave him advice.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Juiced wrote:
Nas wrote:
Juiced wrote:
Denied.

Who are we to tell someone how to grieve? If he wants to beat up on people on Sunday to let out his anger, then more power to him. Go kick some ass.

Just because the PC thing to do is not play, doesn't make it the right thing to do. Not playing is not going to bring back his son.


That's what we do here just about 24/7. We judge everything. Why is this different? It is my belief that just about every parent in the world would be an emotional wreck over losing a child and wouldn't be able to eat or speak let alone go to practice immediately and play in a game. Apparently most of you all believe this is perfectly fine normal behavior. That's fine. My opinion is unfazed by it.


We have boundries that are not crossed. Kids being one of them and wives another.

I am not saying you can't think he is a douchebag for playing in sundays game. I am just saying I don't agree with you. We can agree to disagree. Only an asshat Don Tiny would force their beliefs on you and call you an ass for them.


That's fine.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:17 am ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
Only on the CSFMB does Adrian Peterson get D-Bagged on the same day his 2 year old son dies because of the actions of a deranged psychopath.

Well done, CSFMB. Well done.


Actually there were similar comments and articles all over Twitter yesterday.

Well done, KS. Well done.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Keeping Score wrote:
Only on the CSFMB does Adrian Peterson get D-Bagged on the same day his 2 year old son dies because of the actions of a deranged psychopath.

Well done, CSFMB. Well done.


We've judged many people based on their response or lack there of to tragedies before. We've judged the mother for having an abusive boyfriend. Why is AP off limits? Do you believe it's a normal response to go back to work while your child is clinging for their life? Do you believe it is normal to have the desire to play in a game less than 48 hours after the death of a young child? His reaction to this bothers me because I naturally imagine what my reaction would be if I were in a similar situation.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Nas wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
Only on the CSFMB does Adrian Peterson get D-Bagged on the same day his 2 year old son dies because of the actions of a deranged psychopath.

Well done, CSFMB. Well done.


We've judged many people based on their response or lack there of to tragedies before. We've judged the mother for having an abusive boyfriend. Why is AP off limits? Do you believe it's a normal response to go back to work while your child is clinging for their life? Do you believe it is normal to have the desire to play in a game less than 48 hours after the death of a young child? His reaction to this bothers me because I naturally imagine what my reaction would be if I were in a similar situation.


I don't think there is a "normal reaction" to something like this. Sometimes the shock of it leads people to try and act as if everything is still normal. Sometimes a person feels they have to keep busy to keep from going crazy. And sometimes people literally can't get out of bed.

None of the reactions are wrong.

It's just how the person deals.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Future Nomination: Adrian Peterson
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
Only on the CSFMB does Adrian Peterson get D-Bagged on the same day his 2 year old son dies because of the actions of a deranged psychopath.

Well done, CSFMB. Well done.


We've judged many people based on their response or lack there of to tragedies before. We've judged the mother for having an abusive boyfriend. Why is AP off limits? Do you believe it's a normal response to go back to work while your child is clinging for their life? Do you believe it is normal to have the desire to play in a game less than 48 hours after the death of a young child? His reaction to this bothers me because I naturally imagine what my reaction would be if I were in a similar situation.


I don't think there is a "normal reaction" to something like this. Sometimes the shock of it leads people to try and act as if everything is still normal. Sometimes a person feels they have to keep busy to keep from going crazy. And sometimes people literally can't get out of bed.

None of the reactions are wrong.

It's just how the person deals.



So the next time we see a mother of a dead or missing child (Casey Anthony) not showing any emotion we will say it's normal and not judge? When the next president doesn't react immediately after hearing America is under attack we won't judge his response? We also won't judge the response of a husband after wife #13 dies or is missing?
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:15 am ]
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The collective "We" most definitely will.

And it will be just as faulty.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:42 am ]
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Fair enough
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