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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

Ya know the term shutdown corner gets thrown around a lot, and the guy I played with, Deion Sanders was a true shutdown corner. Richard Sherman is the first guy since Deion who I think is a true shutdown corner.



He said this about Champ Bailey and Darrel Reavis too.


Seems Troy is the one throwing the term around

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

Is Sherman really a shut down corner? I consider him a no YAC corner

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

good dolphin wrote:
Is Sherman really a shut down corner? I consider him a no YAC corner

Depends on your definition.

He's pretty close.

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:14 am ]
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Sherman is a shut down corner because they just dont throw at him. The stats prove him correct.

Reavis used to be that and at one time Bailey was that good. Last night was not an example.

Deion played off people, trying to get QBs to throw to him, then picked it.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

bigfan wrote:
Sherman is a shut down corner because they just dont throw at him. The stats prove him correct.

Reavis used to be that and at one time Bailey was that good. Last night was not an example.

Deion played off people, trying to get QBs to throw to him, then picked it.

Right.

The thing is, they cant ALL be the FIRST one since Deion

Author:  Nas [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:07 am ]
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Sherman takes away big and small receivers.

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

rogers park bryan wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Sherman is a shut down corner because they just dont throw at him. The stats prove him correct.

Reavis used to be that and at one time Bailey was that good. Last night was not an example.

Deion played off people, trying to get QBs to throw to him, then picked it.

Right.

The thing is, they cant ALL be the FIRST one since Deion


I say we kill Aikman!

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

bigfan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Sherman is a shut down corner because they just dont throw at him. The stats prove him correct.

Reavis used to be that and at one time Bailey was that good. Last night was not an example.

Deion played off people, trying to get QBs to throw to him, then picked it.

Right.

The thing is, they cant ALL be the FIRST one since Deion


I say we kill Aikman!

He always gets forgotten in the Great QB arguments. Not his fault the team was loaded.

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

I love Aikman. I think he might have thrown the ball with the best velocity of anyone. The ball got there on a rope. Marino had a quicker release, but Aikman got the ball there not allowing the D Back to break on the Ball/Player and that is a totally under rated part of being a QB.

I am really not trying to rip Manning, but he throws some ducks and the big , quick, Seattle secondary ate that shit up. If Denver completed a pass, they got very few YAC

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:25 pm ]
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This article about the denver WR's stats v press coverage is what led me to dropping wagers on every denv WR

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/01/27/32-observations-super-bowl-xlviii/

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

bigfan wrote:
I love Aikman. I think he might have thrown the ball with the best velocity of anyone. The ball got there on a rope. Marino had a quicker release, but Aikman got the ball there not allowing the D Back to break on the Ball/Player and that is a totally under rated part of being a QB.

I am really not trying to rip Manning, but he throws some ducks and the big , quick, Seattle secondary ate that shit up. If Denver completed a pass, they got very few YAC

Ya, but thats old Peyton. He had a rocket arm and the accuracy to go with it most of his career

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Troy Aikman and shutdown corners

rogers park bryan wrote:
bigfan wrote:
I love Aikman. I think he might have thrown the ball with the best velocity of anyone. The ball got there on a rope. Marino had a quicker release, but Aikman got the ball there not allowing the D Back to break on the Ball/Player and that is a totally under rated part of being a QB.

I am really not trying to rip Manning, but he throws some ducks and the big , quick, Seattle secondary ate that shit up. If Denver completed a pass, they got very few YAC

Ya, but thats old Peyton. He had a rocket arm and the accuracy to go with it most of his career

he had a much better arm than he has now, I agree, but still floated some in. Always threw the wobbler!

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