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| Author: | Beardown [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bill Self |
How many 1st or 2nd round outs has he had when he's been a 3 seed or better? I know he's got his title and a few other deep runs, but that's despite him. His talent carried his ass. He can't coach. |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
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| Author: | Powerhouse233 [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Most of these guys are better recruiters than they are coaches. |
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| Author: | Scorehead [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Kansas missed an awful lot of shots right under the basket. Way too many. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
You could say this about many coaches. Coach K, Boeheim, Calipari, and Roy Williams all have way too many early exits, when you consider the talent they have. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Good ol' Roy. NC is lollygagging down the court after every basket. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Are there any great coaches that don't have a bunch of early exits then? Seems hard to avoid a few in one and done playoffs. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
KDdidit wrote: Are there any great coaches that don't have a bunch of early exits then? Seems hard to avoid a few in one and done playoffs. The coaches that I listed are routinely outcoached, yet they have sparkling reputations. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Questionable member of the Complete Sentence Name Club. |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Chus wrote: Good ol' Roy. NC is lollygagging down the court after every basket. And he was irate every time they showed him after it happened... |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
He couldn't coach in the NBA. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: He couldn't coach in the NBA. Oh, I think he could cry his way to the Finals at least. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Chus wrote: You could say this about many coaches. Coach K, Boeheim, Calipari, and Roy Williams all have way too many early exits, when you consider the talent they have. They all have titles and great career resumes, so you can't question their coaching ability, Chus. Talent of the team should not be factored in whatsoever. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
FavreFan wrote: Chus wrote: You could say this about many coaches. Coach K, Boeheim, Calipari, and Roy Williams all have way too many early exits, when you consider the talent they have. They all have titles and great career resumes, so you can't question their coaching ability, Chus. Why not? K, Self, Roy, and Boeheim were brutal. Add Thad Matta to the list as well. They call timeout before their last possession, and just give the ball to Craft, who ran into a crowd looking for a foul. OSU couldn't even draw up a play. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Chus wrote: FavreFan wrote: Chus wrote: You could say this about many coaches. Coach K, Boeheim, Calipari, and Roy Williams all have way too many early exits, when you consider the talent they have. They all have titles and great career resumes, so you can't question their coaching ability, Chus. Why not? K, Self, Roy, and Boeheim were brutal. Add Thad Matta to the list as well. They call timeout before their last possession, and just give the ball to Craft, who ran into a crowd looking for a foul. OSU couldn't even draw up a play. The gamblers memory |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
rogers park bryan wrote: Chus wrote: FavreFan wrote: Chus wrote: You could say this about many coaches. Coach K, Boeheim, Calipari, and Roy Williams all have way too many early exits, when you consider the talent they have. They all have titles and great career resumes, so you can't question their coaching ability, Chus. Why not? K, Self, Roy, and Boeheim were brutal. Add Thad Matta to the list as well. They call timeout before their last possession, and just give the ball to Craft, who ran into a crowd looking for a foul. OSU couldn't even draw up a play. The gamblers memory I had Dayton against OSU. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Yes. I was in Vegas with money on Memphis. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Yes. I was in Vegas with money on Memphis. I was at home with money on Kansas. Muahahahaha. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
leashyourkids wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Yes. I was in Vegas with money on Memphis. I was at home with money on Kansas. Muahahahaha. I was still in Vegas. Unless you had a house full of strippers, I win. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: leashyourkids wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Yes. I was in Vegas with money on Memphis. I was at home with money on Kansas. Muahahahaha. I was still in Vegas. Unless you had a house full of strippers, I win. The girl I was dating at the time was a stripper. I think you still win. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Chus wrote: FavreFan wrote: Chus wrote: You could say this about many coaches. Coach K, Boeheim, Calipari, and Roy Williams all have way too many early exits, when you consider the talent they have. They all have titles and great career resumes, so you can't question their coaching ability, Chus. Why not? K, Self, Roy, and Boeheim were brutal. Add Thad Matta to the list as well. They call timeout before their last possession, and just give the ball to Craft, who ran into a crowd looking for a foul. OSU couldn't even draw up a play. It was a joke for BRick Boilermaker Rick wrote: Again, the point here is the Boeheim has a title, and a pretty awesome career record. Coach K has multiple titles, and a pretty awesome career record. If that doesn't make you great, then Thibs isn't great either.
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| Author: | Powerhouse233 [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Derrick missed one free throw in that game. Anyone who blames the loss on him is a fool. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Powerhouse233 wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Derrick missed one free throw in that game. Anyone who blames the loss on him is a fool. If he makes that free throw they go up 4 with 9 seconds left |
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| Author: | Zizou [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
The other guy was worse. Douglas-Roberts I think missed like 4-5 FTs. |
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| Author: | Powerhouse233 [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
rogers park bryan wrote: Powerhouse233 wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Derrick missed one free throw in that game. Anyone who blames the loss on him is a fool. If he makes that free throw they go up 4 with 9 seconds left He was by far their best player that night. You can't blame a guy for one missed free throw. That's absurd. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Chus wrote: Good ol' Roy. NC is lollygagging down the court after every basket. Great example, they didn't pick up the defender until he was at the top of the key. They had 14 seconds to bring the ball up and run a play, one diversion, making the PG pick the ball up and getting it into the hands of a wing player may have made the difference in that game. Self coaches the same way. They have so much talent, they never get creative, they don't get these guys to give maximum effort on every play. Have to admire Izzo, he would allow this shit until the Big 10 season starts, then he starts coaching his ass off. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
Powerhouse233 wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Powerhouse233 wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Self won his title because D Rose couldn't hit free throws right? Derrick missed one free throw in that game. Anyone who blames the loss on him is a fool. If he makes that free throw they go up 4 with 9 seconds left He was by far their best player that night. You can't blame a guy for one missed free throw. That's absurd. Yeah, I didnt mean to put the whole loss on him, but I knew I remembered him having a chance to seal it. The point here was that if D Rose makes that free throw Self never gets his title |
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| Author: | Tall Midget [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bill Self |
rogers park bryan wrote: The point here was that if D Rose makes that free throw Self never gets his title Didn't Self try to give that game away when he switched from zone to man-to-man in the first part of the second half? That move opened the game up for Rose, who had been contained by Kansas' zone defense. |
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