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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | GarPax |
If they use their picks tonight, they've basically took themselves out of the Love sweepstakes, right? You can see which way I lean when it comes to the question of them taking the conventional route tonight or doing something bold, like fellow executive Daryl Morey. Morey has already out maneuvered them in clearing space and picking up a semi sweet (only protected 1-3) pick in the process. You have two picks to do something bold, not to draft the future Jimmy Butler and Mike Dunleavy. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
veganfan21 wrote: You have two picks to do something bold, not to draft the future Jimmy Butler and Mike Dunleavy. Mike Dunlevey was drafted #3 overall. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
Douchebag wrote: veganfan21 wrote: You have two picks to do something bold, not to draft the future Jimmy Butler and Mike Dunleavy. Mike Dunlevey was drafted #3 overall. Has he validated being picked in that slot? |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
It would not take them out of the running for anything. Obviously it makes more sense to trade the picks before the draft. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
Nas wrote: It would not take them out of the running for anything. Obviously it makes more sense to trade the picks before the draft. Either you deal picks or you draft for someone else and deal those players. If you draft for yourself then you're basically locked in. I'm all for depth but I was hoping for some increased star power. Yes the Spurs won with depth and all, but there is no Leonard or even Diaw here. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
If they can't get any deals for the picks, I'd imagine that they draft two overseas kids that will continue to play over there for a few years, thus they don't have to pay them and just own their rights. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: It would not take them out of the running for anything. Obviously it makes more sense to trade the picks before the draft. Either you deal picks or you draft for someone else and deal those players. If you draft for yourself then you're basically locked in. I'm all for depth but I was hoping for some increased star power. Yes the Spurs won with depth and all, but there is no Leonard or even Diaw here. Which is why they should draft one tonight. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: It would not take them out of the running for anything. Obviously it makes more sense to trade the picks before the draft. Either you deal picks or you draft for someone else and deal those players. If you draft for yourself then you're basically locked in. I'm all for depth but I was hoping for some increased star power. Yes the Spurs won with depth and all, but there is no Leonard or even Diaw here. Which is why they should draft one tonight. Is there one on the board? For the Spurs post-Duncan as superstar model you need to hit on almost all of your acquisitions. Simply put it's just easier to climb up the standings on the shoulders of star players. If Leanard is there, fine, but there's no guarantee obviously when you're picking in the teens. |
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| Author: | SirTinkleButton [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
Is the NBA the only sport to have the draft THEN free agency? Shouldn't it be the other way around? dumb dumb dumb |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
spmack wrote: If they can't get any deals for the picks, I'd imagine that they draft two overseas kids that will continue to play over there for a few years, thus they don't have to pay them and just own their rights. Might as well just draft Kenny Wililams, Jr. again. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
This is a very deep draft. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: It would not take them out of the running for anything. Obviously it makes more sense to trade the picks before the draft. Either you deal picks or you draft for someone else and deal those players. If you draft for yourself then you're basically locked in. I'm all for depth but I was hoping for some increased star power. Yes the Spurs won with depth and all, but there is no Leonard or even Diaw here. There most likely is and neither of those guys were Leonard or Diaw at the time they were drafted. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
SirTinkleButton wrote: Is the NBA the only sport to have the draft THEN free agency? Shouldn't it be the other way around? dumb dumb dumb Is there any other league where if you are not a lottery pick you have very little chance of being squat? Or nearly zero chance of making it as a second rounder? |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
I think they should build through the draft and maybe sign some foreign players. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
I'm hoping they use one of the picks on Shabazz Napier. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
good dolphin wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: It would not take them out of the running for anything. Obviously it makes more sense to trade the picks before the draft. Either you deal picks or you draft for someone else and deal those players. If you draft for yourself then you're basically locked in. I'm all for depth but I was hoping for some increased star power. Yes the Spurs won with depth and all, but there is no Leonard or even Diaw here. There most likely is and neither of those guys were Leonard or Diaw at the time they were drafted. Not refuting you but I meant there is no Leonard or depth guy like Diaw on the Bulls currently. If you strike gold in the teens, fine, but if you just get useful depth then look forward to another fifty wins and second round exit. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
pittmike wrote: SirTinkleButton wrote: Is the NBA the only sport to have the draft THEN free agency? Shouldn't it be the other way around? dumb dumb dumb Is there any other league where if you are not a lottery pick you have very little chance of being squat? Or nearly zero chance of making it as a second rounder? That's not a league thing but a nature of the sport thing. It's much easier to be a walk on starter in football than it is in the NBA. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
veganfan21 wrote: pittmike wrote: SirTinkleButton wrote: Is the NBA the only sport to have the draft THEN free agency? Shouldn't it be the other way around? dumb dumb dumb Is there any other league where if you are not a lottery pick you have very little chance of being squat? Or nearly zero chance of making it as a second rounder? That's not a league thing but a nature of the sport thing. It's much easier to be a walk on starter in football than it is in the NBA. It's not even necessarily true. Bill Simmons recent column does a decent job of debunking it. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
Don Tiny wrote: spmack wrote: If they can't get any deals for the picks, I'd imagine that they draft two overseas kids that will continue to play over there for a few years, thus they don't have to pay them and just own their rights. Might as well just draft Kenny Wililams, Jr. again. I'm still trying to see what's up with his estranged sister. She's a bartender in her spare time. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
veganfan21 wrote: good dolphin wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: It would not take them out of the running for anything. Obviously it makes more sense to trade the picks before the draft. Either you deal picks or you draft for someone else and deal those players. If you draft for yourself then you're basically locked in. I'm all for depth but I was hoping for some increased star power. Yes the Spurs won with depth and all, but there is no Leonard or even Diaw here. There most likely is and neither of those guys were Leonard or Diaw at the time they were drafted. Not refuting you but I meant there is no Leonard or depth guy like Diaw on the Bulls currently. If you strike gold in the teens, fine, but if you just get useful depth then look forward to another fifty wins and second round exit. Jimmy Butler with a jump shot |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: pittmike wrote: SirTinkleButton wrote: Is the NBA the only sport to have the draft THEN free agency? Shouldn't it be the other way around? dumb dumb dumb Is there any other league where if you are not a lottery pick you have very little chance of being squat? Or nearly zero chance of making it as a second rounder? That's not a league thing but a nature of the sport thing. It's much easier to be a walk on starter in football than it is in the NBA. It's not even necessarily true. Bill Simmons recent column does a decent job of debunking it. Link or it didn't happen |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
http://grantland.com/features/nba-draft ... 1995/#ss-7 |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
FavreFan wrote: http://grantland.com/features/nba-draft-crapshoot-repick-1995/#ss-7 Jonny Flynn became an iconic bust; and the immortal David Kahn took consecutive point guards at no. 5 and no. 6 while passing on Curry both times. Did he claim that Rubio and Flynn were the next Frazier and Monroe? Of course he did! 
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
I found this interesting: Superduperstars: Duncan (1), LeBron (1), Kobe (13) All-Timers: Iverson (1), Howard (1), Durant (2), Garnett (5), Wade (5), Nowitzki (9), Nash (15) Franchise Guys: Griffin (1), A. Davis (1), D. Rose (1), Carmelo (3), C. Paul (4), Westbrook (4), Harden (3), R. Allen (5), Love (5), Curry (7), McGrady (9), P. George (10), Pierce (10) 23 stars as he defines them. 17 chosen in top 5. Only 2 picked lower than 10? Crazy. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
Future consolation acquisition Arron Afflalo traded to Denver. So who will we get this year? |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
veganfan21 wrote: Future consolation acquisition Arron Afflalo traded to Denver. So who will we get this year? Jalen Rose |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
So we are douchebagging them before anything has really happened yet? Makes sense. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
Douchebag wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Future consolation acquisition Arron Afflalo traded to Denver. So who will we get this year? Jalen Rose Doesn't fit the GarPax prototype. I'm thinking Elton Brand. He fits the criteria: hard working, previous winning experiences, and most importantly he was relevant in a different decade. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
RFDC wrote: So we are douchebagging them before anything has really happened yet? Makes sense. Yes. Preemptively. No confidence at all that we end up with something other than two mid round prospects for a team desperately in need of some serious scoring punch. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GarPax |
veganfan21 wrote: Doesn't fit the GarPax prototype. I'm thinking Elton Brand. He fits the criteria: hard working, previous winning experiences, and most importantly he was relevant in a different decade. Vegan you seem to young to be this cynical. I like it! |
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