Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Clemens is overrated
Not true
True.
Cheater since 96 at least and he shrunk from the biggest moments
No way you will ever get me to admit it.
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Len Kasper |
"steroids do not make you a better player" "you can envision all of these guys in the hall of fame without steroids" |
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Hatchetman wrote: "steroids do not make you a better player" "you can envision all of these guys in the hall of fame without steroids" I certainly cannot envision Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, or Rafael Palmiero in the Hall of Fame without steroids. Others apparently agree. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Hatchetman wrote: "steroids do not make you a better player" "you can envision all of these guys in the hall of fame without steroids" Another Frank Thomas apologist... |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
During the off season Len was very confident that Edwin Jackson would be better because the numbers said so. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
muscles dont make you stronger strength doesnt help in baseball Just stop, Len. Seriously. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
This guy is a joke of epic proportions. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Hatchetman wrote: This guy is a joke of epic proportions. Still way better than Chip Caray Way |
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Keyser Soze wrote: During the off season Len was very confident that Edwin Jackson would be better because the numbers said so. Not all the numbers. Here's a case of a guy's W/L record being a better predictor than his K/BB, etc. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
We all know he couldn't have meant that steroids don't make you a good baseball player and you ahd to be agood at baseball and then use to be great. Nah, he couldnt have meant that. Mike Lansings 20 HR season the traded to Rockie where he signed a 3 year, $15 M deal, was all because of the roids? No....he would have had a journeyman carrer probably without it, maybe would have made vet minimum. The juice made him really good and gets a contract offer, without the juice he is just a guy. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Quote: We all know he couldn't have meant that steroids don't make you a good baseball player and you ahd to be agood at baseball and then use to be great. Nah, he couldnt have meant that. I don't know. Maybe if Ed Farmer says something like that, and you just "happen to flip the game on" at that point, you can start a thread about it.
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
uh huh |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Yeah. 2-1 pitch to Beckham on the way... |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/ ... home-runs/ |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Bucky Chris wrote: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/06/steroids-do-not-help-hitters-hit-home-runs/ McGwire write that? |
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| Author: | IMU [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer. Roger Clemens is a Hall of Famer. I'd have to think about any others, but those guys are automatics. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
immessedup17 wrote: Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer. Naggahappan. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Posthumously. |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
immessedup17 wrote: Posthumously. I wonder if in 20 yrs. he & his family will be sitting on the couch waiting for the HOF to call them on local TV. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Remember reading an SI article on Clemens in my youth where it described him pitching a game and after he was taken out, going on a 5 mile run through Boston. Even in my youth I doubted that but it did not seem to phase reporters |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Clemens is overrated |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
rogers park bryan wrote: Clemens is overrated Not true |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Hawg Ass wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Clemens is overrated Not true True. Cheater since 96 at least and he shrunk from the biggest moments |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
rogers park bryan wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Clemens is overrated Not true True. Cheater since 96 at least and he shrunk from the biggest moments No way you will ever get me to admit it. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Hawg Ass wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Clemens is overrated Not true True. Cheater since 96 at least and he shrunk from the biggest moments No way you will ever get me to admit it.
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Exactly |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Bucky Chris wrote: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/06/steroids-do-not-help-hitters-hit-home-runs/ That Eric Walker guy worked for the A's. He developed many of the ideas that Billy Beane gets credit for. I understand what he is saying. I also believe a juiced ball had more to do with the ridiculous numbers than drugs. But what the drugs did do was allow players to play into their 40s without any decline in performance and often better than they had when they were at what would have been their natural physical peak. The Hall of Fame is largely based on the accumulation of numbers. There are some fine lines there. If a juiced ball is helping what would traditionally have been an 18-20 homer guy hit 35-40 and now he gets four or five more seasons at the end that guys like Mantle and Mays didn't have, well, 500 homers is suddenly a lot closer. I never once watched Rafael Palmeiro and thought, "Wow! That's a great player!" |
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I never once watched Rafael Palmeiro and thought, "Wow! That's a great player!" oh what could have been if only cindy had the same keen sense of spatial recognition as you! |
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| Author: | IMU [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
Has anyone else gotten the feeling recently that Len and JD don't like each other very much? Recently there have been some awkward silences and seemingly uncomfortable responses to each other's dialogue. And I don't think it has to do with building a rapport because in past years I never noticed it. They seemed to broadcast well together before. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
immessedup17 wrote: Has anyone else gotten the feeling recently that Len and Bob don't like each other very much? Jim |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Len Kasper |
spanky wrote: immessedup17 wrote: Has anyone else gotten the feeling recently that Len and Bob don't like each other very much? Jim Typical Cubs "fan." Doesn't know what the hell is going on. |
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