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Author:  IMU [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:33 am ]
Post subject:  Michael Brown

So are we all in agreement now?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Well it certainly seems like Officer Wilson told the truth about the struggle in the car


but...


"Ultimately, that officer will have to come up with justification not for firing his gun the first time, but for each and every bullet that came out of his firearm -- whether at the car or away from the car," he said.

Author:  bigfan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

rogers park bryan wrote:
Well it certainly seems like Officer Wilson told the truth about the struggle in the car


but...


"Ultimately, that officer will have to come up with justification not for firing his gun the first time, but for each and every bullet that came out of his firearm -- whether at the car or away from the car," he said.


Maybe the mobs will come back with a bunch of tools now and repair what they destroyed and give back the stolen goods.

Author:  denisdman [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

I'll wait until the full grand jury testimony is released. These leaks are obviously being done to lesson the blow that the officer will not be charged.

In any case, cops using deadly force against young black men is still a massive problems regardless of the circumstances of this case. Unless Brown was completely high, I have trouble believing that six shots were needed to subdue him.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

What about the other super reliable "witnesses" that gave (In light of the autopsy) what seem to be completely false statements? They need to be held accountable as well.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

bigfan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Well it certainly seems like Officer Wilson told the truth about the struggle in the car


but...


"Ultimately, that officer will have to come up with justification not for firing his gun the first time, but for each and every bullet that came out of his firearm -- whether at the car or away from the car," he said.


Maybe the mobs will come back with a bunch of tools now and repair what they destroyed and give back the stolen goods.

Well, I think they still probably have an issue with the officer killing Brown

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

SomeGuy wrote:
What about the other super reliable "witnesses" that gave (In light of the autopsy) what seem to be completely false statements? They need to be held accountable as well.

Good point. They really should be.

Although I think most versions involved a struggle in the car

Author:  IMU [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

denisdman wrote:
I'll wait until the full grand jury testimony is released. These leaks are obviously being done to lesson the blow that the officer will not be charged.

In any case, cops using deadly force against young black men is still a massive problems regardless of the circumstances of this case. Unless Brown was completely high, I have trouble believing that six shots were needed to subdue him.



Well all six shots hit a standing or running target from the front, with the headshot hitting a lunging or falling target. This wasn't an execution. If you're being threatened, deadly force should be forgiven.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

immessedup17 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I'll wait until the full grand jury testimony is released. These leaks are obviously being done to lesson the blow that the officer will not be charged.

In any case, cops using deadly force against young black men is still a massive problems regardless of the circumstances of this case. Unless Brown was completely high, I have trouble believing that six shots were needed to subdue him.



Well all six shots hit a standing or running target from the front, with the headshot hitting a lunging or falling target. This wasn't an execution. If you're being threatened, deadly force should be forgiven.

Bbbbbbbut he was unarmed!!!!

Author:  Nas [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

I'm pretty sure many people said something was going on in the car. Not sure how the official autopsy report means that he wasn't executed unless I'm missing something.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Nas wrote:
I'm pretty sure many people said something was going on in the car. Not sure how the official autopsy report means that he wasn't executed unless I'm missing something.

I think people are saying

Went for the officer's gun + Shot from the front = Justifiable shooting

Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Nas wrote:
I'm pretty sure many people said something was going on in the car. Not sure how the official autopsy report means that he wasn't executed unless I'm missing something.

I'd say it was more of a suicide. Don't want to get shot? Probably not a good idea to reach for a law enforcement officers weapon.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

rogers park bryan wrote:
BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant

I don't think that is true when helping to determing how to charge the officer or not, it will matter. I think.

Author:  Nas [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
I'm pretty sure many people said something was going on in the car. Not sure how the official autopsy report means that he wasn't executed unless I'm missing something.

I'd say it was more of a suicide. Don't want to get shot? Probably not a good idea to reach for a law enforcement officers weapon.


But we don't know if he really reached for the gun so he can shoot the officer or if he was trying to stop the officer from shooting him. Clearly the officer reversed his car looking for a confrontation.

Author:  Nas [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

rogers park bryan wrote:
BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant


Unless he had that stuff that makes people act like zombies.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant

I don't think that is true when helping to determing how to charge the officer or not, it will matter. I think.

I dont understand what you're saying


My point is the marijuana could have been from days earlier and cant be linked to the day, so its useless.

Author:  Nas [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant

I don't think that is true when helping to determing how to charge the officer or not, it will matter. I think.

I dont understand what you're saying


My point is the marijuana could have been from days earlier and cant be linked to the day, so its useless.


At the very least we know that he was getting ready to smoke. Marijuana isn't usually a drug that makes people act crazy.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant

I don't think that is true when helping to determing how to charge the officer or not, it will matter. I think.

I dont understand what you're saying


My point is the marijuana could have been from days earlier and cant be linked to the day, so its useless.

I don't think the officers or people on the grand jury will fill that way though.

Author:  Bagels [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant

I don't think that is true when helping to determing how to charge the officer or not, it will matter. I think.

I dont understand what you're saying


My point is the marijuana could have been from days earlier and cant be linked to the day, so its useless.

I don't think the officers or people on the grand jury will fill that way though.


anyone who uses drugs deserves to be shot

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Yes, you can conclude that from what I typed Bagels.

Author:  redskingreg [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

I agree. (Pages Ike to the nearest gun range)

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

redskingreg wrote:
I agree. (Pages Ike to the nearest gun range)

:lol:

Author:  Chus [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Hawg Ass wrote:
Yes, you can conclude that from what I typed Bagels.


It does come off that way.

Author:  Douchebag [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Bagels wrote:
anyone who uses drugs deserves to be shot

Only if it's good weed.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
BTW, the fact that he has marijuana in his system is completely irrelevant

I don't think that is true when helping to determing how to charge the officer or not, it will matter. I think.

I dont understand what you're saying


My point is the marijuana could have been from days earlier and cant be linked to the day, so its useless.

I don't think the officers or people on the grand jury will fill that way though.

Well Im talking about what should be. You're right some people might make bad assumptions on it.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

Yes, I am talking their perspective as a person under the influence. Sorry, I realize I wasn't as clear as I should have been. Probably because I was to smoky myself last night, but not to Ike's level.

Author:  pittmike [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

I think we can probably agree that grabbing a cops gun for any reason whatsoever is likely to get you in a hospital or body bag with the cop not getting in trouble.

Author:  Nas [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

pittmike wrote:
I think we can probably agree that grabbing a cops gun for any reason whatsoever is likely to get you in a hospital or body bag with the cop not getting in trouble.

No

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michael Brown

pittmike wrote:
I think we can probably agree that grabbing a cops gun for any reason whatsoever is likely to get you in a hospital or body bag with the cop not getting in trouble.

Unless it's a stripper. That's a whole nother story though.

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