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"You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in."

FavreFan wrote:

"You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in."

Well, then I hope Chris Conte doesn't have a thought on this.

K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
Derrick Rose wasn't available for reporters to ask him about the T-shirt he chose to wear honoring Eric Garner.

FavreFan wrote:

"You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in."

Well, then I hope Chris Conte doesn't have a thought on this.

"You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in."

Terrible nomination.

2 for 11 on Saturday Night. It should say "I can't shoot"

"You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in."

Terrible nomination.

FavreFan wrote:

"You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in."

Terrible nomination.

I don't know. Ditka catches all kinds of grief of commenting on these issues. Why should Rose be exempt?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/3/mike-ditka-ferugson-i-dont-want-hear-hands-up/

But why is Weird Jerry being loyal to someone who has such an adversarial relationship with him? I guess that's why Bob calls him Weird Jerry.

Oh, I thought you meant that Reinsdorf had some loyalty to BJ Armstrong.

Sounds like a personal problem for BJ. Pax has done a good job.

the drose thing is far from over. he looked passive as hell last night and looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on the court. this guy just sucks

The notion that the majority of Rose's critics would "approve" of Rose wearing the t-shirt if he had spoken with reporters after the game is ludicrous.

If Rose had commented on the Garner situation, his attackers would have labeled his statements inarticulate, stupid, uninformed or some combination thereof.

The "issue" of Rose's silence is thus nothing more than a red herring deployed by those who simply disapprove of his politics.

Tall Midget wrote:

I don't think it is invalid to expect something more than wearing a t shirt from someone expressing support of a cause. It makes him appear to be a dilettante.

Author:	shirtless driver [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Derrick Rose
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ba ... story.html Wow, Glass Joe, way to take a stand. Bravo. Shoulda worn a shirt that said "I can't scratch my balls without pulling a hammy". What a gesture.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
"You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in." Terrible nomination.

Author:	Chus [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
FavreFan wrote: "You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in." Well, then I hope Chris Conte doesn't have a thought on this.

Author:	conns7901 [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Chus wrote: FavreFan wrote: "You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in." Well, then I hope Chris Conte doesn't have a thought on this. Hopefully, Chris Conte is thinking about retiring from football.

Author:	conns7901 [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Quote: K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop Derrick Rose wasn't available for reporters to ask him about the T-shirt he chose to wear honoring Eric Garner.

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Author:	Mr. Reason [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Chus wrote: FavreFan wrote: "You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in." Well, then I hope Chris Conte doesn't have a thought on this. At the rate he's getting concussed, he's not going to have a thought on much of anything.

Author:	Mr. Belvidere [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
2 for 11 on Saturday Night. It should say "I can't shoot"

Author:	Mr. Belvidere [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:07 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
FavreFan wrote: "You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in." Terrible nomination. Lebron or Kobe maybe. But Glass Rose? Whats next? Earl Boykins gonna take a stand and wear a shirt thats say "Hands UP. Dont SHoot"? Doesnt mean much coming from an average player.

Author:	Rod [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:16 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Mr. Belvidere wrote: 2 for 11 on Saturday Night. It should say "I can't shoot"

Author:	badrogue17 [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
FavreFan wrote: "You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in." Terrible nomination. I don't know. Ditka catches all kinds of grief of commenting on these issues. Why should Rose be exempt?

Author:	Nas [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
badrogue17 wrote: FavreFan wrote: "You get hurt a lot so you're not allowed to express an opinion or stand up for something you believe in." Terrible nomination. I don't know. Ditka catches all kinds of grief of commenting on these issues. Why should Rose be exempt? When was the last time Ditka commented on police brutality or racial issues? He catches grief for saying it's okay to beat your wife and whip your toddler like a slave.

Author:	Peoria Matt [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:29 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -hands-up/

Author:	Nas [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:34 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Peoria Matt wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/3/mike-ditka-ferugson-i-dont-want-hear-hands-up/ Thanks! I wasn't aware of this.

Author:	bigfan [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Ditka responds when people ask him about what he thinks about things. You might not like Ditkas thoughts, but he has them. There is no reason to think Rose has a thought or is expressing an opnion. To think he is going to wear that T shirt and then have no comment to reporters and not even be available to speak? I really just wish he would grow up on many levels. And lets also never forget part of the reason we have this version of Rose is Reinsdorf's amazing loyalty to employees, namely BJ Armstrong.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
He probably thought it was a viable excuse not to play rather than a political statement.

Author:	jimmypasta [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:32 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
http://defpenradio.com/chicago-bulls-de ... go-charity Chicago Bulls All-Star point guard Derrick Rose has donated $1 million dollars to a Chicago Charity by the name of “After School Matters“. This Chicago Charity creates out of school opportunities for Chicago’s youth such as apprenticeships. This charity hits close to home as Derrick Rose himself grew up in Englewood in Chicago, and has previously openly talked about empowering Chicago’s youth and stopping violence in Chicago. The gift is the largest ever from the three-time NBA All-Star and is coming from him personally, the organization said. THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTION EVER?! It’s great for NBA stars like Derrick Rose to show that they care about their community. Rose said in a statement “To have a strong community of people who believe in your potential can make all the difference in the world,So many people have invested in me and I want to do the same for Chicago’s teens.” Rose who is coming off two knee injuries that have forced him to miss a big chunk of two NBA seasons, is looking to come back to contribute to Chicago and compete in the east. Even when he’s on the sidelines, Rose knows how to contribute to his community, and he’s not the only one. Joakim Noah, another Chicago Bull’s star has spoken out about the violence in Chicago, even contributing through a charity of his own the Noah’s Arc Foundation. Now a days, professional athletes have to take a closer look at their communities and how they can contribute, because of how big of an impact they can truly make. Hopefully, the efforts of Derrick Rose and other stars spark a movement around the league, to donate time and money to charities that can truly help people.

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Author:	Curious Hair [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
But why is Weird Jerry being loyal to someone who has such an adversarial relationship with him? I guess that's why Bob calls him Weird Jerry.

Author:	bigfan [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:36 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Curious Hair wrote: But why is Weird Jerry being loyal to someone who has such an adversarial relationship with him? I guess that's why Bob calls him Weird Jerry. loyal to Rose? contractually speaking, he has zero leverage. Jerry doesnt hate this situation at all, this is where he thrives. He loved being the person that his ex star talked to, like when he did deals with Jordan directly. Getting Rose back to where he was or close at this point, gives the Bulls a chance to win a title, so Jerry will do anything to make nice with the Rose camp to appease them at this point. Not sure they could have done anymore for the guy as an organization. Its what he should do and all he can do. 2017, Rose has an expiring deal. he will be 27. Look for them to move that deal to LA that year. The situation is one that needs constant reinforcement, but is calm and damn fucking weird! The goal of winning an NBA ring is still there for the organization and sometimes for the Rose camp.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:55 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Oh, I thought you meant that Reinsdorf had some loyalty to BJ Armstrong.

Author:	bigfan [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Curious Hair wrote: Oh, I thought you meant that Reinsdorf had some loyalty to BJ Armstrong. None, that is part of the problem. When they hired Pax to be the GM after passing over the Asst GM, BJ Armstrong, that sting hasnt left BJ and is a huge part of the Rose problem.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Sounds like a personal problem for BJ. Pax has done a good job.

Author:	ZephMarshack [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
"BJ you're one selfish cocksucker." -Phil Jackson

Author:	bigfan [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
FavreFan wrote: Sounds like a personal problem for BJ. Pax has done a good job. BJ chose to sell his soul to Jerry and if you do that, he owns you. when I say 'Sell your soul" , I mean work for him without a contract or at best an annual deal. You work for him under a basic trust of you are loyal to him, he will take of you unless he doesnt want to. At the same time jerry has done many good things for people he has left many people hanging too. But we digress from the issue that if the Scholar D Rose wants to start having and expressing thoughts, I would like them to be about basketball first before he poses as a weak ass civil leader after some guy his brother knew asked him to wear it.

Author:	IkeSouth [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
the drose thing is far from over. he looked passive as hell last night and looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on the court. this guy just sucks

Author:	bigfan [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
IkeSouth wrote: the drose thing is far from over. he looked passive as hell last night and looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on the court. this guy just sucks when he played 36 mins in the Dallas game, the sports media guys couldnt stop talking about this was him turning the corner. LOL I was laughing when they said, as you have to ask how a guy playing 36 mins in a double OT means he is back!

Author:	Tall Midget [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:13 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
The notion that the majority of Rose's critics would "approve" of Rose wearing the t-shirt if he had spoken with reporters after the game is ludicrous. If Rose had commented on the Garner situation, his attackers would have labeled his statements inarticulate, stupid, uninformed or some combination thereof. The "issue" of Rose's silence is thus nothing more than a red herring deployed by those who simply disapprove of his politics.

Author:	Juiced [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Maybe he should just loosen that tie. This guy really is dumb.

Author:	jimmypasta [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:36 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
I think we all need to cool it with DR. He has looked pretty decent (not great,yet.) on the court. I'm not about to jump on him for wearing a T-Shirt.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
Tall Midget wrote: The notion that the majority of Rose's critics would "approve" of Rose wearing the t-shirt if he had spoken with reporters after the game is ludicrous. If Rose had commented on the Garner situation, his attackers would have labeled his statements inarticulate, stupid, uninformed or some combination thereof. The "issue" of Rose's silence is thus nothing more than a red herring deployed by those who simply disapprove of his politics. I don't think it is invalid to expect something more than wearing a t shirt from someone expressing support of a cause. It makes him appear to be a dilettante.

Author:	Tall Midget [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Derrick Rose
good dolphin wrote: Tall Midget wrote: The notion that the majority of Rose's critics would "approve" of Rose wearing the t-shirt if he had spoken with reporters after the game is ludicrous. If Rose had commented on the Garner situation, his attackers would have labeled his statements inarticulate, stupid, uninformed or some combination thereof. The "issue" of Rose's silence is thus nothing more than a red herring deployed by those who simply disapprove of his politics. I don't think it is invalid to expect something more than wearing a t shirt from someone expressing support of a cause. It makes him appear to be a dilettante. My point remains: Rose's critics would attack him whether he spoke or not. For most of them, the issue isn't his silence; it's his politics. The truth of this statement is underscored by the typical reactionary response to athletes or artists whenever they publicly support a progressive cause. "Shut up and play" is typically the kneejerk reaction of many on the right to left-leaning celebrities. The cry for Rose to say more now thus seems a bit ironic.