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Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:52 am ]
Post subject:  Michelle Obama

choose NY for site of that library and don't bother showing your face in this town again. Fucking taker.

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Sneed is told by several top sources that first lady Michelle Obama got the green light from her husband to pick the spot.

And, at this juncture, she wants it in New York!

“It’s Michelle’s choice where the library and museum will ultimately be located, and she has let her close friends know she wants it to be located in New York,” a top Sneed source said.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Well, I guess nothing is more Chicagoan than wanting to live in New York instead.

Author:  denisdman [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Curious Hair wrote:
Well, I guess nothing is more Chicagoan than wanting to live in New York instead.


Most Chicagoans hate NY style living....

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

and to turn your back on U of C after they gave you a close to a no work job for years is inexcusable.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun and this was all an Emmanuel plant to put pressure on the community to accept the location.

Author:  spmack [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Curious Hair wrote:
Well, I guess nothing is more Chicagoan than wanting to live in New York instead.

BRick would have it no other way.

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

good dolphin wrote:
and to turn your back on U of C after they gave you a close to a no work job for years is inexcusable.


It's been a tough day for Dr. Ken schools this here Friday.

Author:  denisdman [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
and to turn your back on U of C after they gave you a close to a no work job for years is inexcusable.


It's been a tough day for Dr. Ken schools this here Friday.


Wait you went to U of C??????

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Who gives a shit? Presidential Libraries are a joke. Its disgusting that taxpayers have to pay to construct a shrine to shitty politicians.

Author:  Elmhurst Steve [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

For me, it would have created as much interest as that George Lucas, Star Wars museum...ZERO. Enjoy it NY.

Author:  DannyB [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

The only visitors will be school groups and armed right-wingers looking for the emails showing how Obama managed to destroy America in 8 short years.

Author:  Elmhurst Steve [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

DannyB wrote:
The only visitors will be school groups and armed right-wingers looking for the emails showing how Obama managed to destroy America in 8 short years.



Oh hell, it took him far less time than that!

Author:  Seacrest [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

good dolphin wrote:
and to turn your back on U of C after they gave you a close to a no work job for years is inexcusable.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun and this was all an Emmanuel plant to put pressure on the community to accept the location.


Constitutional Law

Course credit for knocking on doors in his contest against Bobby Rush.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

none of you wanted the library, so she gives you what you want and now youre pissed at her. fuckin hillbillies.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

I never thought we'd get it in the first place. They weren't going to put their shrine on 63rd Street. I just think it's funny that the actual South Sider herself and not the globe-trotter is the one who wants it in New York.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

IkeSouth wrote:
none of you wanted the library, so she gives you what you want and now youre pissed at her. fuckin hillbillies.


I want it.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

denisdman wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
and to turn your back on U of C after they gave you a close to a no work job for years is inexcusable.


It's been a tough day for Dr. Ken schools this here Friday.


Wait you went to U of C??????


Finally, the tide is turning on the beloved Dr. Ken.

I doubt he went to college at all

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

I took a number of correspondence classes at the advice of many U of I students who did so before. if it is possible to take such a class 'with them" I did as well. Many of them are Lawers now. We would take 2 classes a summer. Gonna say one was Modern English Lit? Wrote 2 papers, got a Pass and checked the requirement off the list.

Image

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

denisdman wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Well, I guess nothing is more Chicagoan than wanting to live in New York instead.


Most Chicagoans hate NY style living....

Image

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Just love that he already tossed it all on Michelle. LOL

Author:  Nas [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

bigfan wrote:
Just love that he already tossed it all on Michelle. LOL


Either he listens to the public complain or he listens to his wife. He made the right decision.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

bigfan wrote:
Just love that he already tossed it all on Michelle. LOL

She's probably looking out for his best interests . Drive by shooting kills 2 wounds 4 near Obama library isn't a headline she would want to see in the papers every week.

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

badrogue17 wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Just love that he already tossed it all on Michelle. LOL

She's probably looking out for his best interests . Drive by shooting kills 2 wounds 4 near Obama library isn't a headline she would want to see in the papers every week.


but wha happen? to #CHANGE?

Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Big Chicagoan wrote:
Who gives a shit? Presidential Libraries are a joke. Its disgusting that taxpayers have to pay to construct a shrine to shitty politicians.


Yes!

Author:  Brick [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

This will not be in New York. This is them getting leverage on Chicago.

It would be in Hawaii before it ever went to New York.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Spaulding wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Who gives a shit? Presidential Libraries are a joke. Its disgusting that taxpayers have to pay to construct a shrine to shitty politicians.


Yes!


Wrong.

Presidential libraries are both a museum and a place for scholarship. Obama's place in history will make it particularly relevant as a destination point, a forum for discussion and resource for all of this city's universities. This will be a major get for the city and I wholeheartedly support it.

The same is true of the proposed Lucas Museum.

Both have the same problem of location but the question of "should we pursue them" should not be open for debate.

Author:  Brick [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

good dolphin wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Who gives a shit? Presidential Libraries are a joke. Its disgusting that taxpayers have to pay to construct a shrine to shitty politicians.


Yes!


Wrong.

Presidential libraries are both a museum and a place for scholarship. Obama's place in history will make it particularly relevant as a destination point, a forum for discussion and resource for all of this city's universities. This will be a major get for the city and I wholeheartedly support it.

The same is true of the proposed Lucas Museum.

Both have the same problem of location but the question of "should we pursue them" should not be open for debate.
One of the biggest problems with Chicago is the lack of must visit attractions. It's a great city but when someone asks what you should see and your answer goes like:
Old baseball stadium, a lakefront park, and a street with shopping on it you have problems selling just how great of a city it is.

This won't be the Chicago version of the Statue of Liberty but it will be something well worth visiting. The Clinton library in Arkansas was the only memorable thing I visited when we were there.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Who gives a shit? Presidential Libraries are a joke. Its disgusting that taxpayers have to pay to construct a shrine to shitty politicians.


Yes!


Wrong.

Presidential libraries are both a museum and a place for scholarship. Obama's place in history will make it particularly relevant as a destination point, a forum for discussion and resource for all of this city's universities. This will be a major get for the city and I wholeheartedly support it.

The same is true of the proposed Lucas Museum.

Both have the same problem of location but the question of "should we pursue them" should not be open for debate.
One of the biggest problems with Chicago is the lack of must visit attractions. It's a great city but when someone asks what you should see and your answer goes like:
Old baseball stadium, a lakefront park, and a street with shopping on it you have problems selling just how great of a city it is.

This won't be the Chicago version of the Statue of Liberty but it will be something well worth visiting. The Clinton library in Arkansas was the only memorable thing I visited when we were there.


Are you comparing Chicago to Arkansas?

Chicago is full of renowned museums, architecture, theatre, sports, nightlife, ect that would be way further up the list than the Obama Library. Very few care to ever visit and tourists certainly won't be visiting the City specifically to see it. Therefore, it provides pretty much zero benefit to Chicago as a whole.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This will not be in New York. This is them getting leverage on Chicago.

It would be in Hawaii before it ever went to New York.

Or Kenya.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Michelle Obama

Presented without comment


Chicago Protestors: We Need A Trauma Center, Not Obama's Presidential Library
The Huffington Post | By Kim Bellware


The University of Chicago's status as a shoo-in for the future Barack Obama Presidential Library site has taken a hit in recent weeks -- and now, even some of Obama's South Side neighbors are speaking out against the proposal.

They argue the university needs to re-open its hospital's trauma center far more than it needs to host a presidential library.

Demonstrators staged a die-in to that end at Hyde Park Academy High School on Tuesday night, just before hundreds of attendees packed the auditorium for the first of two contentious public hearings on the university's library bid.


Advocates and doctors have urged the University of Chicago Medical Center for years to fill the void in the area's "trauma center desert" by re-opening its Level 1 trauma center for adults, which shuttered in 1988. Not one of Cook County's nine Level 1 adult trauma centers is located on Chicago's South Side, meaning some residents face ambulance rides of 10 miles or more before they arrive at a hospital that can treat them.

A 2013 study in the American Journal of Public Health linked Chicagoans' distance from trauma centers to higher mortality rates, and in Chicago, a disproportionate number of shootings happen on the city's South and West sides.

Angry neighbors and activists say it's "no trauma, no 'bama."

"Why would you want to give the first black president's presidential library to an intuition that has not at all shown any concern, care, or priority for your life," resident Veronica Morris-Moore said to ABC Chicago Tuesday night.

University of Chicago Medical Center officials told the Chicago Tribune last year that starting a new Level 1 trauma center for adults without help from regional partners "compromise" the school's ability to provide other services. The school's online FAQ about their bid states that presidential libraries are built with donations of private and non-federal funds, with some receiving help from state and local governments; a U of C spokesperson didn't immediately return a call asking if any university funds were pledged to the project.

"The coalition [of protestors] doesn’t see it as an either/or, but rather it’s a lack of will. It’s a matter of priorities,” Marla Bramble, director of organizing for the Jewish Council on Urban Affairs, which participated Tuesday night, told The Huffington Post. "We would like to see [U of C] start making steps to develop the level 1 trauma center.”

Bramble noted the Washington Park advisory council recommend that the university’s bid incorporate community benefits into the library's design plan, including a trauma center, affordable housing and educational support.

This week's public hearings were an effort to salvage the troubled U of C bid after a source close to the Barack Obama Foundation, which is in charge of selecting a library site, told the Associated Press the selection committee had concerns about the Chicago proposals.

A sticking point in the U of C bid is that the school doesn't actually own the land mentioned in its bid. The university pitched two nearby locations -- a 22-acre spot in Washington Park and a 21-acre spot in Jackson Park -- both of which are on Chicago Park District land.

“Let’s not accept the argument that the Obama Presidential Library has to be in a park on the South Side or we lose it,” Lauren Moltz, a chairwoman with the preservation group Friends of the Park, said at the Tuesday hearing, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. The parks “are neither the City of Chicago’s, the Chicago Park District, or the University of Chicago’s to carve up,” she said.

Despite protests from trauma center activists and park preservationists, support for placing the Obama Presidential Library on the city's South Side has the support of local councilmen, a majority of residents and business owners, and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a former Obama staffer.

The University of Illinois at Chicago, Columbia University in New York City and the University of Hawaii in Honolulu have also submitted bids. The president and first lady are expected to make a selection by the end of March.

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