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Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Fri May 29, 2015 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  John Paxson
Fire the coach and not blaming yourself for putting together this team of under achievers....then say he "probably" wouldn't have been fired if the Bulls won the Championship :shock: Bullshit the Chairman's mind was made up sometime ago. Plus John you have turned into a Smarmy son of a bitch chocking VDN and now firing a guy whom is the best coach you ever hired because he didn't listen to suggestions....so maybe the Mayor will bring the Bulls a title and if not I hope run your slimy ass out of town on a rail :D
Author:  denisdman [ Fri May 29, 2015 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: John Paxson
I don't know who to believe in this mess. The Bulls spin sounded pretty good and reasonable, but I can't tell if it's all BS. I guess I have the most faith in what the Chairman said via his letter. Clearly there was dysfunction, so change had to be made. That being said, I loved Thibs.
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri May 29, 2015 8:55 am ]
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Why does every organization Jerry Reinsdorf chairs defined by its dysfunction in upper management?
Author:  Rod [ Fri May 29, 2015 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: John Paxson
good dolphin wrote:
Why does every organization Jerry Reinsdorf chairs defined by its dysfunction in upper management?


Exactly. Fire Thibs if you want. But everything with a Reinsdorfian front office turns into Mafia-style grudges. Any normal professional organization would have a simple press release mentioning "philosophical differences" and thanking the guy for the job he did. Reinsdorf and his underlings have to go to the mattresses and fire an attack.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Fri May 29, 2015 9:09 am ]
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Foreman wanted to hire Mike Brown or Laurence Frank during the search that led to hiring Thibs, according to Woj. Paxson wanted Collins. Foreman's taste in coaches is not encouraging...wonder what it says about Hoiberg.
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri May 29, 2015 9:11 am ]
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and what is this organization's fascination with Iowa State?

Iowa State is the cradle of average. The Bulls hire from Iowa State. Everyone wonders why the Bulls are average.
Author:  Nas [ Fri May 29, 2015 12:49 pm ]
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I was in the Collins camp but Thibs won me over. Jerry got it right. Now he has allowed GarPax to fuck it up.
Author:  long time guy [ Fri May 29, 2015 12:53 pm ]
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If Paxson hires Hoiberg and it turns out to be the wrong hire then he should be fired.
Author:  Nas [ Fri May 29, 2015 12:56 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
If Paxson hires Hoiberg and it turns out to be the wrong hire then he should be fired.


Unless they make some major trades or Rose and Noah turn back the clock I don't see how it could work out for Hoiberg.
Author:  Ed_from_Lisle [ Fri May 29, 2015 12:57 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
If Paxson hires Hoiberg and it turns out to be the wrong hire then he should be fired.


Thanks, Joe Cowley.
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Fri May 29, 2015 12:59 pm ]
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Thibs seems like a Jim Harbaugh type of coach. The intensity works for a few years, but eventually professional athletes get tired of being constantly ridden.

Thibs is a 4 year coach max, wherever he goes unless he wins a championship (ala Coughlin of the NYG).
Author:  sinicalypse [ Fri May 29, 2015 1:07 pm ]
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i have a question about paxson: are we finally allowed to go back to the mindset where gar is nothing but a figurehead GM there to absorb the media pressure/duties of the GM job that john paxson never wanted to deal with? i remember that was the prevailing mentality/narrative when john first went upstairs and ceded the title of GM to gar, and this was backed up by b&b at the time essentially saying that this is what it is.

but then as some time went on it's almost like someone from the reinsdorf camp got a hold of dan and said "STOP SAYING THIS STUFF IF YOU VALUE YOUR 'SOURCES' " because then at some random point in the future i remember b&b going out of their way to proclaim that some coaching/personnel decision was "100% a gar forman joint. this is ALL gar forman and this has nothing to do with john paxson, gar made the decision here" and i was just like "huh? .....what the fuck?" because like i said right when john first went upstairs b&b were absolutely certain that he was still calling all the shots, he just had absolutely 0 desire to deal with the media-responsibilities that comes with the GM position.

now that pax was out there in the post-thibs presser certainly looking like THE DECIDER, can we go back to just assuming that this bulls team is essentially generally-managed by john paxson and gar is just the stiff/lackey there to deal with all of the stupid questions from stupid people who piss off the gift from god to an appreciate boss that is john "no questions please; i WILL choke you" paxson?
Author:  denisdman [ Fri May 29, 2015 1:14 pm ]
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Gar Forman, "Too much head, but none of it being the right kind."
Author:  bigfan [ Sat May 30, 2015 7:29 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Why does every organization Jerry Reinsdorf chairs defined by its dysfunction in upper management?


I would just like to point out how much harder Good Dolphin has gone at Reinsdorf over the years and especially on this issue....yet, I am the one with the hate towards the guy? When I am the guy who often applaudes and thanks him, points out the good things he has tried to do, etc....
Author:  Blackcloud [ Sat May 30, 2015 8:51 am ]
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Is it just me or does Gar Forman look like the prototype used to create Bert from Sesame Street ?
Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:01 am ]
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bigfan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Why does every organization Jerry Reinsdorf chairs defined by its dysfunction in upper management?


I would just like to point out how much harder Good Dolphin has gone at Reinsdorf over the years and especially on this issue....yet, I am the one with the hate towards the guy? When I am the guy who often applaudes and thanks him, points out the good things he has tried to do, etc....


people like you more than they like me. Popularity has its price
Author:  bigfan [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:18 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
bigfan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Why does every organization Jerry Reinsdorf chairs defined by its dysfunction in upper management?


I would just like to point out how much harder Good Dolphin has gone at Reinsdorf over the years and especially on this issue....yet, I am the one with the hate towards the guy? When I am the guy who often applaudes and thanks him, points out the good things he has tried to do, etc....


people like you more than they like me. Popularity has its price

Please send me your latest coroporate headshots , as I am going to need you to take a higher profile around here.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:47 am ]
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Blackcloud wrote:
Is it just me or does Gar Forman look like the prototype used to create Bert from Sesame Street ?


He is Beaker from the Muppet Show.
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