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Author:  spmack [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Jon Lester
Fuck you.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
spmack wrote:
Fuck you.

Denied. 8-9 for a number 1 starter isn't bad for 22 million a year. Your expectations are just too damn unreasonable.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
This is still his spring training.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
badrogue17 wrote:
spmack wrote:
Fuck you.

Denied. 8-9 for a number 1 starter isn't bad for 22 million a year. Your expectations are just too damn unreasonable.


There are metrics.
Author:  Scooter [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Le Sabre. 2004. Nice car 200,000 miles.
Author:  Scorehead [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
6 years, $155 million. $25.8 million per year, and a $30 million signing bonus. I think Theo got this one wrong.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
He's drinking too much.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Scorehead wrote:
6 years, $155 million. $25.8 million per year, and a $30 million signing bonus. I think Theo got this one wrong.

Only if you expect wins out of your number 1.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
badrogue17 wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
6 years, $155 million. $25.8 million per year, and a $30 million signing bonus. I think Theo got this one wrong.

Only if you expect wins out of your number 1.


ITS NOT EVEN ABOUT THAT. THEO KNEW THE BACK END OF THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE BAD. Ooops. Regardless I do not want my GM planning to have a bad back end of a monster contract.
Author:  conns7901 [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
spmack wrote:
Fuck you.


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Author:  bigfan [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Everyone gives up towering line drive homeruns to pitchers who havent had an at bat in 7 years.....dont they? :)
Author:  Nas [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Looks like I was right.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Hasnt been good. Hopefully he goes on one of his hot streaks at the right time.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Nas wrote:
Looks like I was right.

Way too early to tell and many of Lester's numbers are better than Shields
Author:  Nas [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
rogers park bryan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Looks like I was right.

Way too early to tell and many of Lester's numbers are better than Shields


Except the important ones and he could have been had for half the price.
Author:  Hockey Gay [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
The main reason to DB Lester is because of Ross. This guy is not a major league baseball player.

How many no decisions or losses has Lester racked up when he has pitched great but the team can't score? Are they really going to start Ross with Lester in the playoffs? Yikes.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Hockey Gay wrote:
The main reason to DB Lester is because of Ross. This guy is not a major league baseball player.

How many no decisions or losses has Lester racked up when he has pitched great but the team can't score? Are they really going to start Ross with Lester in the playoffs? Yikes.


He has 6 starts with 2 or fewer runs that resulted in a loss or a no decision. The Cubs lost 3 of those games.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Nas wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Looks like I was right.

Way too early to tell and many of Lester's numbers are better than Shields


Except the important ones and he could have been had for half the price.

Important ones? ERA doesnt matter to you now? Ok

Shields has not been great. When he was pitching better you patted yourself on the back, cant make it all about money now that he's been struggling.

As of right now, looks like you made a good call, but far from over. If Lester helps them win a WS, the contract is justified.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Hockey Gay wrote:
The main reason to DB Lester is because of Ross. This guy is not a major league baseball player.

How many no decisions or losses has Lester racked up when he has pitched great but the team can't score? Are they really going to start Ross with Lester in the playoffs? Yikes.

Cubs have been shut out 5 times when he pitched.

No, Ross wont start in playoffs if they make it.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
rogers park bryan wrote:
Nas wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Looks like I was right.

Way too early to tell and many of Lester's numbers are better than Shields


Except the important ones and he could have been had for half the price.

Important ones? ERA doesnt matter to you now? Ok

Shields has not been great. When he was pitching better you patted yourself on the back, cant make it all about money now that he's been struggling.


Because money always matters. Shields hasn't sucked recently. He's only given up more than 3 runs twice since July 1st. His numbers could be even better too. He has 7 starts where h gave up 2 or fewer runs that resulted in a L or a ND.
Author:  Juiced [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hasnt been good. Hopefully he goes on one of his hot streaks at the right time.


Like last year.... oh wait :x He sucked last year for OAK. Richard looked better then him last night. Lester was falling off the mound, missing pitches, looking like T.Mulholland. Lester does not look healthy. He's making a ton of money and probably feels the need to make every start. He is the opposite of Prior, who would cry DL for a fingernail. I rather Lester miss a couple starts then go out and have games like last night.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
If Lester pitches well in the playoffs I will be his biggest fan. I wanted both players but thought Lester wouldn't be worth the cost.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Juiced wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hasnt been good. Hopefully he goes on one of his hot streaks at the right time.


Like last year.... oh wait :x He sucked last year for OAK. Richard looked better then him last night. Lester was falling off the mound, missing pitches, looking like T.Mulholland. Lester does not look healthy. He's making a ton of money and probably feels the need to make every start. He is the opposite of Prior, who would cry DL for a fingernail. I rather Lester miss a couple starts then go out and have games like last night.


He was pitching well before last night though.
Author:  Juiced [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Nas wrote:
Juiced wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hasnt been good. Hopefully he goes on one of his hot streaks at the right time.


Like last year.... oh wait :x He sucked last year for OAK. Richard looked better then him last night. Lester was falling off the mound, missing pitches, looking like T.Mulholland. Lester does not look healthy. He's making a ton of money and probably feels the need to make every start. He is the opposite of Prior, who would cry DL for a fingernail. I rather Lester miss a couple starts then go out and have games like last night.


He was pitching well before last night though.


Just watching him pitch, he looked awkward. He's an older pitcher so you don't know how the weather effects him. I know my knee cramps up sometimes in the humid damp weather. He is an All-Star/World Series winning pitcher. He didn't forget how to pitch overnight. He will be fine if he takes care of himself and doesn't push his body.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
I hope you are right. Don't expect the Cubs to win this year but I need to see Light Out Lester more often in 2016.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
Nas wrote:
If Lester pitches well in the playoffs I will be his biggest fan. I wanted both players but thought Lester wouldn't be worth the cost.

Agree on that because of the length. I think/thought he could be worth it for the first few years and he still could be.
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
I can't keep up with Cubs' fan opinion. One day he is great, the next day he is not. This is very stressful for me in trying to maintain a contrarian opinion.
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
The guy has been fine. He had a bad game.

That money is a sunk cost. It's not worthy of discussion other than being a cautionary tale in the future.
Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
How can any pitcher get to this level without being able to throw to first?
Author:  City of Fools [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Lester
I hated the acquisition from the word go. It felt like Theo threw his whole plan up in the air when he had a shot at Lester. It only makes it worse that Ross came along with. This has to be his last season, the guy's playing "Forever Young" when he comes to bat. It was a terrible pickup from day one, they should have waited until this offseason to go get pitching. This will bite them just as bad as the Edwin Jackson pickup, although for different reasons.
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