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Ex-hedge funder buys rights to AIDS drug and raises price from $13.50 to $750 per pill

A former hedge fund manager turned pharmaceutical businessman has purchased the rights to a 62-year-old drug used for treating life-threatening parasitic infections and raised the price overnight from $13.50 per tablet to $750.

According to the New York Times, Martin Shkreli, 32, the founder and chief executive of Turing Pharmaceuticals, purchased the rights to Daraprim for $55 million on the same day that Turing announced it had raised $90 million from Shkreli and other investors in its first round of financing.

Daraprim is used for treating toxoplasmosis — an opportunistic parasitic infection that can cause serious or even life-threatening problems in babies and for people with compromised immune systems like AIDS patients and certain cancer patients — that sold for slightly over $1 a tablet several years ago. Prices have increased as the rights to the drug have been passed from one pharmaceutical company to the next, but nothing like the almost 5,500 percent increase since Shkreli acquired it.

Worrying that the cost of treatment could devastate some patients, Dr. Judith Aberg, the chief of the division of infectious diseases at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai asked, “What is it that they are doing differently that has led to this dramatic increase?”

According to Shkreli, Turing will use the money it earns to develop better treatments for toxoplasmosis, with fewer side effects.

“This isn’t the greedy drug company trying to gouge patients, it is us trying to stay in business,” Shkreli explained, saying that many patients use the drug for far less than a year and that the new price is similar to other drugs used for rare diseases.

Shrkeli also defended his small pharmaceutical company saying, “It really doesn’t make sense to get any criticism for this.”

This is not the first time the fledgling pharmaceutical executive has come under scrutiny.

He started the hedge fund MSMB Capital while in his 20’s and was accused of urging the FDA to not approve certain drugs made by companies whose stock he was shorting.

In 2011, Shkreli helped form Retrophin, which also acquired old drugs and immediately raised their prices. Retrophin’s board fired Shkreli a year ago and has filed a complaint in Federal District Court, accusing him of using Retrophin as a personal fund to pay back angry investors in his hedge fund.

As for Shrkeli’s claim that he will put the excess profits back into research, doctors say that isn’t needed in this case.

“I certainly don’t think this is one of those diseases where we have been clamoring for better therapies,” said Dr. Wendy Armstrong, professor of infectious diseases at Emory University in Atlanta.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/ex-hedge-funder-buys-rights-aids-drug-and-raises-price-from-13-50-to-750-per-pill/

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Denied. People with AIDS should work harder and create their own drugs. Either that, or stop taking it in the ass. Why do so many CSFMBers have a problem with good honest American businessmen? I'm starting to think this is some kind of commie site. Thank God for good new posters like Dignified Rube and Beer Fan. Maybe they can save this godforsaken place.


Those pillow biters should have been smart and hard working, like Martin Shkreli. They should stop attacking job creators.

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Tomorrow Trump will be touting this guy as the prime target of his proposed tax hikes. :lol:

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I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection for a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!

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I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection against a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!


The man used the system against itself....

Ever seen the producers????

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I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection against a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!


The man used the system against itself....

Ever seen the producers????


Never seen the producers but isn't the argument of the capitalist class based around a systemless system? for lack of a better term. The argument espoused by the "creator" class is that all govt intervention sucks. This is always the case until they actually seek out govt as a way of increasing their profit margins.

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Either that, or stop taking it in the ass.

Wow, Jorr.

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I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection for a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!


Huh?

Sometimes I think you've taken Franks sage advice and constantly hit yourself over the head with a baseball bat.


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Why isn't this drug past its patent date? Are there no generic alternatives?

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Why isn't this drug past its patent date? Are there no generic alternatives?


That is a great question by you. I am not sure if the former owner did this as it is such an ancient drug but companies can extend patents for a very long time if they find a niche use or some other crap. Pfizer and Viagra is an excellent example.

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I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection for a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!


Huh?

Sometimes I think you've taken Franks sage advice and constantly hit yourself over the head with a baseball bat.


Maybe you missed the part where he lobbied the FDA in an effort to deny the approval of drugs of companies that he was shorting.
Can you plausibly make an argument as to how that is an example of free market capitalism at work? I know you won't have a problem making an argument, but the operative term is "plausible"

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Right move. Those who, through hard work and ingenuity, can afford the high price are probably the only ones worth saving from disease and death.

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I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection for a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!


Huh?

Sometimes I think you've taken Franks sage advice and constantly hit yourself over the head with a baseball bat.


Maybe you missed the part where he lobbied the FDA in an effort to deny the approval of drugs of companies that he was shorting.
Can you plausibly make an argument as to how that is an example of free market capitalism at work? I know you won't have a problem making an argument, but the operative term is "plausible"


:lol:

It's hard to take you seriously, you're the goof that proudly proclaims that it was the benevolent, ominipotent federal government that saved us all during the last crash. When it was actually the Feds that set the stage for it all and then went ahead and made it worse.

But anyways back to what's important....lobbying to change rules, cronyism and using bearuacracy to tilt the playing field simply isn't "free market capitalism." You could file them under crony capitalism, corporstism or whatever. It's exchanges such as these that make me wonder if you even know what a "free market" is or what "capitalism" is. Hint: They aren't really practiced, big picture, in this nation.

Now please....put the bat down.


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Better yet, explain to the class ho lobbying the FDA is an example of the free market at work....or capitalism as work.


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He's responding to his own posts, LTG. Give him a breather.

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SomeGuy wrote:
long time guy wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection for a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!


Huh?

Sometimes I think you've taken Franks sage advice and constantly hit yourself over the head with a baseball bat.


Maybe you missed the part where he lobbied the FDA in an effort to deny the approval of drugs of companies that he was shorting.
Can you plausibly make an argument as to how that is an example of free market capitalism at work? I know you won't have a problem making an argument, but the operative term is "plausible"


:lol:

It's hard to take you seriously, you're the goof that proudly proclaims that it was the benevolent, ominipotent federal government that saved us all during the last crash. When it was actually the Feds that set the stage for it all and then went ahead and made it worse.

But anyways back to what's important....lobbying to change rules, cronyism and using bearuacracy to tilt the playing field simply isn't "free market capitalism." You could file them under crony capitalism, corporstism or whatever. It's exchanges such as these that make me wonder if you even know what a "free market" is or what "capitalism" is. Hint: They aren't really practiced, big picture, in this nation.

Now please....put the bat down.


Irony is truly wasted on such a sage mind. That's the whole point. Most of the proponents of free market capitalism, which you can bet your last dime this guy promotes publicly, are people that privately engage in crony capitalism. The reason that free market capitalism will probably never exist has just as much if not more to do with the capitalists as it does the govt. I guess that point was sort of lost on you.



I wish I had the interest in educating you on how the Roosevelt administration, with a big boost from WWII, ended the Great Depression. The learning curve, I fear, is simply too steep.

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Better yet, explain to the class ho lobbying the FDA is an example of the free market at work....or capitalism as work.



It's not but I guess you missed the essential elements of the post. Not really a surprise. I'm sure this guy trumpets free market capitalism, yet doesn't practice it. He is not alone in this regard.

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long time guy wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I love how the unabashed capitalist, the champion of the free market, and enemy of govt. intervention, sought out the FDA in an effort to provide protection for a stock that he was shorting. Aint capitalism grand!


Huh?

Sometimes I think you've taken Franks sage advice and constantly hit yourself over the head with a baseball bat.


Maybe you missed the part where he lobbied the FDA in an effort to deny the approval of drugs of companies that he was shorting.
Can you plausibly make an argument as to how that is an example of free market capitalism at work? I know you won't have a problem making an argument, but the operative term is "plausible"


:lol:

It's hard to take you seriously, you're the goof that proudly proclaims that it was the benevolent, ominipotent federal government that saved us all during the last crash. When it was actually the Feds that set the stage for it all and then went ahead and made it worse.

But anyways back to what's important....lobbying to change rules, cronyism and using bearuacracy to tilt the playing field simply isn't "free market capitalism." You could file them under crony capitalism, corporstism or whatever. It's exchanges such as these that make me wonder if you even know what a "free market" is or what "capitalism" is. Hint: They aren't really practiced, big picture, in this nation.

Now please....put the bat down.


Condescension in conjunction with ad hominem, is really laughable when practiced by the misinformed and misguided.

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Better yet, explain to the class ho lobbying the FDA is an example of the free market at work....or capitalism as work.



It's not but I guess you missed the essential elements of the post. Not really a surprise. I'm sure this guy trumpets free market capitalism, yet doesn't practice it. He is not alone in this regard.


:lol:

I just reread your original post.

SomeGuy messed that one up!

Ou am not smart.


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Better yet, explain to the class ho lobbying the FDA is an example of the free market at work....or capitalism as work.



It's not but I guess you missed the essential elements of the post. Not really a surprise. I'm sure this guy trumpets free market capitalism, yet doesn't practice it. He is not alone in this regard.


:lol:

I just reread your original post.

SomeGuy messed that one up!

Ou am not smart.


it's cool. I was attempting to be sarcastic, probably didn't do a good enough job of it.

Let me ask you this. Do you not agree with the conclusion that Roosevelt in conjunction with WWII, ended the Great Depression? Not necessarily New Deal policies, because they were considered to be a mixed bag.

The Govt did steer us out the Great Depression though. It was not private enterprise. Do you not agree?

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Why isn't this drug past its patent date? Are there no generic alternatives?


From what I read, the company kept a tight lid on the supply, making it hard for companies to get enough of it to analyze and replicate the chemical formula. (And since the drug had previously been pretty inexpensive, there was no financial incentive for companies to make a generic version, until now.)

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RPB, you guys been following KaloBios (KBIO)? Looks to still be halted. That is an interesting story connected to this guy.

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Shkreli might need some of those pills where he is going:

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Just popped up on Marketwatch

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RPB, you guys been following KaloBios (KBIO)? Looks to still be halted. That is an interesting story connected to this guy.

No but sounds like a ponzi scheme


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