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Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Process of a catch rule.
Fuck the lawyers who wrote this thing. Multiple teams have been screwed because of this "rule." In a long list of stupid rules in the NFL, this is by far the worst.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Yes. Yes. 1000 times yes.
Author:  bigfan [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
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Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Good pic. The NFL calls that a touchdown. Smh.
Author:  spanky [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Left: CATCH!
Right: NOT A CATCH!!
:| :| :|


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Author:  Scorehead [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Typical over analyzed and over complicated NFL rules. There is a simple way to fix this BS. The rule should be that the player must have the ball at the end of the play. Period. Including the ground causing a fumble. Hold on to the damn ball until the play is over.
Author:  bigfan [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Here is Dean Blandino explaining the rule and why it was changed.

I might agree with him, except the ball was coming out as Tate take puts his second step down to start running. he caught the ball in the air, takes a step and before or as the ball goes down to become a runner, the ball starts to become a runner.
Terrible breakdown of tape Dean.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-instant-replay/0ap3000000559588/Instant-Replay-Interception-or-touchdown-Blandino-explains
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Exactly bf.

Saying he established himself as a runner is just wrong.

Can't trust those New York Italians...
Author:  spanky [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:21 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
Here is Dean Blandino explaining the rule and why it was changed.

I might agree with him, except the ball was coming out as Tate take puts his second step down to start running. he caught the ball in the air, takes a step and before or as the ball goes down to become a runner, the ball starts to become a runner.
Terrible breakdown of tape Dean.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-instant-replay/0ap3000000559588/Instant-Replay-Interception-or-touchdown-Blandino-explains

Nice attire, Deano.
Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Scorehead wrote:
Typical over analyzed and over complicated NFL rules. There is a simple way to fix this BS. The rule should be that the player must have the ball at the end of the play. Period. Including the ground causing a fumble. Hold on to the damn ball until the play is over.

That's never going to happen.
Author:  Scorehead [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
FavreFan wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Typical over analyzed and over complicated NFL rules. There is a simple way to fix this BS. The rule should be that the player must have the ball at the end of the play. Period. Including the ground causing a fumble. Hold on to the damn ball until the play is over.

That's never going to happen.


It should. Why shouldnt a ball carrier be expected to hold on to the ball until the play is over? Ground or no ground, if you lose the ball it should be a fumble.
Author:  bigfan [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
spanky wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Here is Dean Blandino explaining the rule and why it was changed.

I might agree with him, except the ball was coming out as Tate take puts his second step down to start running. he caught the ball in the air, takes a step and before or as the ball goes down to become a runner, the ball starts to become a runner.
Terrible breakdown of tape Dean.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-instant-replay/0ap3000000559588/Instant-Replay-Interception-or-touchdown-Blandino-explains

Nice attire, Deano.


it was like he was out all night...and did a few lines, then came in to work!
Author:  IkeSouth [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
well they say the moment you break the line its a td... so it shouldnt matter how long he held onto it, he scored. but then again he did jump to make the catch... whether he needed to or not, he did. so he needed two feet down for it to be a catch and he did not by the time the ball was moved
Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Scorehead wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Typical over analyzed and over complicated NFL rules. There is a simple way to fix this BS. The rule should be that the player must have the ball at the end of the play. Period. Including the ground causing a fumble. Hold on to the damn ball until the play is over.

That's never going to happen.


It should. Why shouldnt a ball carrier be expected to hold on to the ball until the play is over? Ground or no ground, if you lose the ball it should be a fumble.

Ground causes tons of fumbles. It would lead to a ton of chaotic post play scrums, increase injury potential, and make the players look worse with the significant increase in fumbles. It will never happen.
Author:  pittmike [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:22 pm ]
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This whole mess could be avoided if they never started that break the plane BS. Jump over that line like Walter or finish your play into the end zone. Why did offense get this much power? I hate it.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:37 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
This whole mess could be avoided if they never started that break the plane BS. Jump over that line like Walter or finish your play into the end zone. Why did offense get this much power? I hate it.

Doesn't the rule date back to 1889?
Author:  Darkside [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
The rule is obviously poorly written and ambiguous and it's enforcement proves it. Referees don't even understand it. The only redeeming quality it has is that it may give Joe buck a stroke trying to explain it
Author:  pittmike [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
pittmike wrote:
This whole mess could be avoided if they never started that break the plane BS. Jump over that line like Walter or finish your play into the end zone. Why did offense get this much power? I hate it.

Doesn't the rule date back to 1889?


Well probably not or Payton would not have jumped over goal line pile ups. Other than that so what? It is dumb.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
pittmike wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
pittmike wrote:
This whole mess could be avoided if they never started that break the plane BS. Jump over that line like Walter or finish your play into the end zone. Why did offense get this much power? I hate it.

Doesn't the rule date back to 1889?


Well probably not or Payton would not have jumped over goal line pile ups. Other than that so what? It is dumb.

That does begs the question - why doesn't anyone jump over the line like Payton did any more? That was almost unstoppable.
Author:  pittmike [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
pittmike wrote:
This whole mess could be avoided if they never started that break the plane BS. Jump over that line like Walter or finish your play into the end zone. Why did offense get this much power? I hate it.

Doesn't the rule date back to 1889?


Well probably not or Payton would not have jumped over goal line pile ups. Other than that so what? It is dumb.

That does begs the question - why doesn't anyone jump over the line like Payton did any more? That was almost unstoppable.


I assume because they do not need to. The need to only have the tip of the ball break a "plane".
Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
pittmike wrote:
This whole mess could be avoided if they never started that break the plane BS. Jump over that line like Walter or finish your play into the end zone. Why did offense get this much power? I hate it.

Doesn't the rule date back to 1889?


Well probably not or Payton would not have jumped over goal line pile ups. Other than that so what? It is dumb.

That does begs the question - why doesn't anyone jump over the line like Payton did any more? That was almost unstoppable.

Players are way better at stopping that. It's happened twice already this year. RBs still try the jump. Not everyone is Walter.
Author:  billypootons [ Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
spanky wrote:
Left: CATCH!
Right: NOT A CATCH!!
:| :| :|


Image


he wasnt a "runner" with control before the ball came loose...
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
Neither was Calvin Johnson a few years ago at Soldier Field, yet they ruled that incomplete. The NFL continues to make up its own rules as we go along...both on the field, as we saw yesterday, and off the field, Ray Rice.
Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Process of a catch rule.
One of the most famous catches in SB history would never stand today:

https://vine.co/v/OrEmzAwVB7U
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