I don't get what Chicago people are bitching about. Murders are committed on the South side. You get shot there. More so than in any other city. He's making a movie about those murders. So what?

He's trying to make money. That's the purpose of making movies. Will it send a message? Will it make a difference? No. But that's what Spike Lee has to say to sell his movie.

CNN did a doc on it. I watched it. Then the next day somebody was shot dead. Then 3 days later somebody else was shot dead. Then the next week a kid was shot dead. So that Doc didn't help.

Spike Lee movie or not, the murders will continue.

Dan Bernstein: WHY. DON'T. THEY. JUST. MOVE?

Spike Lee: Right on, brother!!!! That's the answer.

It has NOTHING to do with the murders that are at historic lows.

Only because Rahm has figured out how to classify many murders as something other than what they actually are.

Only because Rahm has figured out how to classify many murders as something other than what they actually are.

emergency medical care is way better than it was 20-30 years ago too.

Bro, cool story dept.: Ran into a firefighter at a park in Oak Park. He was excercising the firehouse rotweiler there since it was too dangerous in the city. said three guys came into the firehouse yesterday with gunshot wounds.

In the 90's it was better than it was in the 60's. That didn't stop the dramatic increase from the 60's to the 90's.

well, I guess this murder business is solving itself. no worries.

That's a great way to go when you are wrong.

Channel 2 News addressed this issue last summer. Violent crime across the board has decreased during the past 25 yrs. Even accounting for advances in medicine there is a significant decrease. They reported a 75% decrease in violent crime.

The major advancement has occurred in the area of mass media. There are far more sources of information these days. This contributes greatly to the perception that crime is at an epidemic level.

what am I wrong about?

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Advancements in medicine being responsible for nearly 500 fewer murders annually since a peak in the 90's.

I find it ironic the #1 enemy of the police on this board totally believes their self-reported crime statistics.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magaz ... ime-stats/

You're having a really bad morning. Hopefully the rest of your day gets better.

Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?

Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?

That would eliminate the medical part

Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?

That would eliminate the medical part

Because we have no idea what the true numbers are.

I doubt violent crime is down that drastically. It's likely down because it's underreported.

If the city is lying about the numbers today (despite all the independent organizations tracking these things) when there are only about 400 murders, why wouldn't they have been lying in the 90's when there was about 1000?